PiC, is it National Non Sequitor Day? (and me without a card!) I have no idea what you think you read in my post, or what you intended in yours (but it sounded quite snippy).
My point was simply this: you implied through references to the Almontes and Puerto Rico that they were from that island. They are not, they are from the Dominican Republic. This is the kind of thoughtless mistake that people WITH prejudices (why bother with the differences, they're all alike) would make. The "demons" you refer to are your own.
Playing ball in Florida has given my son a great many friends and teammates from PR, DR, Cuba, and Columbia. And each wishes to be recognized as being from, or having the heritage of, their own country, just as anyone does.
Danny Almonte is responsible for his actions, perhaps.......but is a 14 year old (boy, girl, it doesn't matter) who is manipulated, molested, abused, etc., guilty of inappropriate behavior? How do we know that this is that much different?
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Interesting about your referencing "throwing stones"....
I'm a refugee from Lithuania who came here on a troop carrier in 1949 with a mother and a small sister...My father was taken by the German army as we were fleeing Lithuania in 1944 because the Russians and Germans were making it a battleground of sorts.
We couldn't speak the language either and they (the people who lived here) all called us "dumb dp's)....
I don't want to hear about impoverished backgrounds and no English-speaking skills...just rise above it. My mother gave us opportunities by working 2 jobs for 37 years. She was a butterpacker and a cleaning lady. We were proud of her.
What are you going to tell me that I don't know about a situation like this kid was in?
In America, you don't have to lie and cheat.
Just put your head down and work.
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Blackheart...AGREE WITH YOU 100%.
Interesting about your referencing "throwing stones"....
I'm a refugee from Lithuania who came here on a troop carrier in 1949 with a mother and a small sister...My father was taken by the German army as we were fleeing Lithuania in 1944 because the Russians and Germans were making it a battleground of sorts.
We couldn't speak the language either and they (the people who lived here) all called us "dumb dp's)....
I don't want to hear about impoverished backgrounds and no English-speaking skills...just rise above it. My mother gave us opportunities by working 2 jobs for 37 years. She was a butterpacker and a cleaning lady. We were proud of her.
What are you going to tell me that I don't know about a situation like this kid was in?
In America, you don't have to lie and cheat.
Just put your head down and work.
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Blackheart...AGREE WITH YOU 100%.
JP
Well said. Head down, work hard and you might get to watch some Princeton Tiger baseball in the spring.
Well said. Head down, work hard and you might get to watch some Princeton Tiger baseball in the spring.
Dad04,
How's the young un doin'. Was that his team that wupped McNeese State?
How's the young un doin'. Was that his team that wupped McNeese State?
BH
He's fine. They play that team that wupped McNeese this weekend. Jr. gets the start on Sunday.
He's fine. They play that team that wupped McNeese this weekend. Jr. gets the start on Sunday.
Apparently some others are very successful making it out of abject poverty...
FROM RICK MORRISSEY, CHICAGO TRIBUNE
It seems that when it was time for Sosa to take his physical for the Orioles last week, a team employee arrived in a personal vehicle to transport Sosa to the facility.
Sosa didn't offer a heart tap or even blow a kiss. He wagged a disapproving index finger. He said he doesn't do personal vehicles. He would require a limousine. The limo arrived about an hour later, delaying the physical and the ensuing news conference.
Sun columnist Peter Schmuck referred to it as an apparent "diva moment" by Sosa. Some of us here in Chicago would refer to it as bigness as usual for His Samminess.
FROM RICK MORRISSEY, CHICAGO TRIBUNE
It seems that when it was time for Sosa to take his physical for the Orioles last week, a team employee arrived in a personal vehicle to transport Sosa to the facility.
Sosa didn't offer a heart tap or even blow a kiss. He wagged a disapproving index finger. He said he doesn't do personal vehicles. He would require a limousine. The limo arrived about an hour later, delaying the physical and the ensuing news conference.
Sun columnist Peter Schmuck referred to it as an apparent "diva moment" by Sosa. Some of us here in Chicago would refer to it as bigness as usual for His Samminess.
Hooray! Dad, give Big B all our best for a solid game.
Halfmoon, that was sad to hear (not unexpected, but sad). So much for the New Sosa, looks like we've still got the old SamME.
JP, you made my point. With all the hardships faced by your mother she was the anchor in your childhood and, I'm sure, stressed education from a very early age. Where was this parental support for Almonte? The values you grew up with were non-existant for this young man. All he was told from a very early age was that baseball was his only hope to escape poverty and what kind of message is that? Where was he to learn anything about moral values? Who was there to teach these values? I wish him well.
Throwing 87 for the LH side will get him noticed.
I refuse to jump into PiC's pigfight. I encourage all of you to do the same.
Bob, can we get an ignore feature?
I refuse to jump into PiC's pigfight. I encourage all of you to do the same.
Bob, can we get an ignore feature?
Orlando
Thanks will do. You too.
Thanks will do. You too.
Been,
My thoughts exactly. You said it well because you lived it well.
Your mom is obviously a special person!
My thoughts exactly. You said it well because you lived it well.
Your mom is obviously a special person!
It's funny, Orlando...I really don't relish railing on Sammy. I wish he were the player he could have been because if he were, the Cubs would have had World Series rings by now. I started getting huffy last week when my esteemed and respected Sox Fan buddy, BeenThere, started railing on the Cubs and went away for a couple of days to get my perspective back. I thought long and hard about my last post and decided to post it...actually I was trying to end the Almonte discussion.
By the way, how do I look in my new UBERSized Avatar? Just got back from the beauty shop when my wife snapped the picture!
Oops it's small again!
By the way, how do I look in my new UBERSized Avatar? Just got back from the beauty shop when my wife snapped the picture!
Oops it's small again!
BeenthereIL
You hit that square on the head.
It is not about what life throws at us, or the circustances we start out in - it is about how we react, respond, and get through those things that make us who we are.
Your mother was obviously a special lady.
You hit that square on the head.
It is not about what life throws at us, or the circustances we start out in - it is about how we react, respond, and get through those things that make us who we are.
Your mother was obviously a special lady.
Dad04,
Good luck to the young un this season.
Blackheart (formerly known as Fighting Squirrel)
Good luck to the young un this season.
Blackheart (formerly known as Fighting Squirrel)
Danny is not guilty for what happen, his father and his coach were. What happen in 2001 have nothing to do with the question if Danny is a "real deal" as a ball player or not. So, a lot of people, like always, take the opportunity to look in the dark side of the situation, and in this particular case some have gave as a reason, national origen, economical status, education, and even, his intelligence and his english speaking ability. I asked my self, what was happen if Danny wasn't win a game in that series in 2001. I guest that we had a few less topic in this webside, and some posters one less opportunity to throw all their negativisness from inside their dirty soul.
As dominican, I feel very bad for what Danny's coach did, but this have nothing to do with poverty, or national origen, this is a mirror image of a society that every day is worst and worst, and believe me, we don't have to go out of this shores to found all their manifestations. Look at the history of the last 5 or 6 United States presidents, look at the happening of the last two elections, look at the case of NJ governor, and like this thousand of cases. Let Danny along, he is paying his punishment in silent, if he will make it or not to the big leagues will depends, nor for what happens in 2001, nor for the attention of the press, depends only for the same reason of all other players, depends on development, performance, and lucky. No even his size (Pedro, John Franco, etc)may stop him, no even lenguage, or knowledge, or speed. Non body knows, only in this webside there is so many people that can predit what is going to happen 4 to 5 years from now. I hope that all those diviners could tell us what is going to happen to this world that every day is going faster to self destruction.
As dominican, I feel very bad for what Danny's coach did, but this have nothing to do with poverty, or national origen, this is a mirror image of a society that every day is worst and worst, and believe me, we don't have to go out of this shores to found all their manifestations. Look at the history of the last 5 or 6 United States presidents, look at the happening of the last two elections, look at the case of NJ governor, and like this thousand of cases. Let Danny along, he is paying his punishment in silent, if he will make it or not to the big leagues will depends, nor for what happens in 2001, nor for the attention of the press, depends only for the same reason of all other players, depends on development, performance, and lucky. No even his size (Pedro, John Franco, etc)may stop him, no even lenguage, or knowledge, or speed. Non body knows, only in this webside there is so many people that can predit what is going to happen 4 to 5 years from now. I hope that all those diviners could tell us what is going to happen to this world that every day is going faster to self destruction.
Racab...I have 7 children. They all know their birthdays because that is when they expect cakes and gifts and money.
Your son is now in the minors. I would bet he knew when his 14th birthday was...?
Danny knew he was 14 when everyone was telling others that he was 12. (Catorce)
No big deal.
Your son is now in the minors. I would bet he knew when his 14th birthday was...?
Danny knew he was 14 when everyone was telling others that he was 12. (Catorce)
No big deal.
Beenthere
You are right, Danny knew, but are you expecting that a 14 years old kid, that who knows how they motivated, is going to tell his father that he won't play at LL world series becouse he is 14?. I don't think so.
You are right, Danny knew, but are you expecting that a 14 years old kid, that who knows how they motivated, is going to tell his father that he won't play at LL world series becouse he is 14?. I don't think so.
quote:Originally posted by redbird5:
Throwing 87 for the LH side will get him noticed.
I refuse to jump into PiC's pigfight. I encourage all of you to do the same.
Bob, can we get an ignore feature?
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The man throws an insult at me, I respond to defend myself and you call me a pig.
Thanks for reminding me why I never sit anywhere near parents at ball games.