It's true, You never know who's watching!

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Originally posted by junior5:
I'm not sure about the rest of your player's situations but my college choice was HIGHLY influenced by the coach I was going to be playing for. I knew after every school I visited whether or not I would consider going to that school. *Sometimes I wish I wouldn't have had to go on the campus visit before the coaches meeting... Regardless, I bet this player wasn't turning down his only offer. I'm sure he had offers and suitors of coaches he had good impressions of and he could see himself playing for.

Being 17 and being recruited and a camper at 10 are entirely two different situations. Definetly you will find as you go through the process there are some coaches that just don't press buttons and others that do.

The OP's son went to a community college, his choice based on the fact that he would have a better opportunity to play right away. Now it begins all over again, what if it were the same coach, maybe the only one, do you still avoid those calls?

And I am not sure what being one of the top 3 players in his position in the state has to do with it. Is mom saying, hey that coach lost out on an opportunity because he snubbed my son at 10.
I don't get that.

Go back and reread the original post. It's pretty clear she was just making a point you never know who is watching not just the player, but also the coach.

Kids remember things. My daughter heard me say for years I hated TU (Texas for those of you not around here). All football related, nothing to do with the school. When she got to looking at schools, she didn't even want to look at Texas. Impressions made on young folks stick with them more than you think. I believe carol was making that point too, which is true.

I understood the point.

I would have helped son to understand (at a later time) that maybe it wasn't a snub, maybe they just were interested in the older players or maybe it was just all about raising money. This could have been a great discussion to open up the recruiting process. I mean how many of your kids have gone to a camp, or a showcase and then persude by the coach and just dropped like a hot potato? It happens and this is part of life, part of sports and a great life lesson. But we all see things differently and that's ok.

Either way, I would have expected him to take the phone call, and then if he was not interested say no thank you.

I don't see any reason to scold someone for their parenting skills. I would be the first to admit to having a lack of parenting skills when younger.

There was no crime committed here. I've been around enough people that think they are great parents who are actually far from perfect IMO. I've also been around enough coaches to know many of them are far from perfect, as well.

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I don't see any reason to scold someone for their parenting skills. I would be the first to admit to having a lack of parenting skills when younger.

There was no crime committed here. I've been around enough people that think they are great parents who are actually far from perfect IMO. I've also been around enough coaches to know many of them are far from perfect, as well.

Good point for someone from Iowa.

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Originally posted by PGStaff:
I don't see any reason to scold someone for their parenting skills. I would be the first to admit to having a lack of parenting skills when younger.

There was no crime committed here. I've been around enough people that think they are great parents who are actually far from perfect IMO. I've also been around enough coaches to know many of them are far from perfect, as well.

I agree, no crime committed. I did say that we all see things differently.

PGStaff,

You have a PM.

My question is who was working with the little kids at this camp if the coaches paid them no attention? I understand that camps make money for the team but it's still a business. The customer needs to get something back in return and that might be walking over and just chatting. Kids know who the important people are and just getting to talk to them might make the world of difference. I've had all kinds of high school freshmen (players and students) come up to me and ask "hey do you remember me????". Honestly no I don't remember you but because I had a conversation with them when they were a little kid at a camp a few years ago they remembered me. Carol is 100% true in that coaches need to watch what they do because it will leave an impression.

Now fast forward and the coach is trying to recruit the boy but because of that one event the boy is turned off to him. I think it's a valid reason to mark off a school. It's his choice and I think adults should challenge that way of thought in case he's making it without really thinking but if that's important to him then it's his call. He's the one who has to be comfortable at the school.

All this being said I would truly have to advise the kid to get over it because it's not that big of deal in the grand scheme of things. Also, he should answer the phone and respectfully tell the coach he's not interested. That would be the mature thing to do.

Recruiting is a funny business because each side is buying and selling at the same time. The player has to sell himself to a coach but at the same time the player is trying to find a school he can buy into. The coach is trying to sell his school as the greatest place in the world but at the same time he's trying to find a player he can buy into. So impressions by all those involved are important.

I'm with PG in that carol or her kid didn't do anything wrong but he could have probably handled the rejection better towards the coach. But it's a learning experience. Hopefully now he will realize that it's better to pick the phone up and say "I really appreciate your call but I'm looking to go in another direction. I wish you luck and hope the best for you but I'm going another route."

When the kids around here go to the local university summer camp, the younger ones, including 10's, are coached by the players. To the ten y.o.'s, the college players are like gods. The HC might say hello to the whole group at the start or goodbye and thanks at the finish. Everyone seems happy with the setup.