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enshot_20190722-171530_ChromeBtw a one arm or even a no hands homer (like the famous todd frazier one) isn't necessarily a sign of big strength. Alan nathan has said the bat is essentially ballistic at contact and you could just as well throw the bat at the ball because contact is so short that the hands can't deliver force to the ball because it leaves the bat before the shock waves arrive at the hands.

Here is the fazier "bat throw" homer

https://youtu.be/Sf0rSNyRPJw

 

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https://www.mlb.com/video/fran...evin-plawecki-scores

 

Lindor is out front but his hands are back and he is in a decent position to accelerate the bat even if it isn't ideal. The collapse on a knee and release of the other hand then happens just before contact when the bat is already at full speed.

This doesn't mean you should throw the bat at the ball as a good follow through makes the swing plane more stable and thus good contact more likely but hitting it one handed doesn't necessarily mean more strength as the acceleration of the bat is really finished a couple inches before contact and the bat is pretty much ballistic then.

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Last edited by Dominik85

That's why they call it 'early bat speed' folks.  Bat speed is generated before he started dropping his knees and throwing his hands. Most of it is generated by 'hip/elbow slot'. 

The speed didn't reach it's full potential since he pushed his hands, but it was enough to hit a HR up a few rows in RF.

Most kids and HS players don't have early bat speed. 

(also, if you look at dominick's 4th image, he doesn't actually drop to his knees until AFTER he hit the ball. Plus he wasn't 'out on his front foot' like the announcer said - his torso 'stayed back' nicely)

If you look at his stats for that HR:

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com...game_date=2019-07-21

Exit speed - 98.4 mph

29 deg launch angle

380 feet

Last edited by SultanofSwat

As strong as Lindor is, Rafael Devers is stronger.   I saw it with my own eyes yesterday in the sweltering heat.   His bat speed is amazing.  Before he broke up the no hitter in the 7th inning yesterday with this line drive hit at 109.3mph (https://www.mlb.com/video/rafa...ncini?t=most-popular), he hit a line shot even faster and harder right at Mancini in his previous at bat and the RightFielder barely had any time to react or try to get out of the way.   It was the  hardest hit baseball I'd ever seen (in person).    This guy is a keeper.  

As for the rest of the team, I'll hold my applause.

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fenwaysouth posted:

As strong as Lindor is, Rafael Devers is stronger.   I saw it with my own eyes yesterday in the sweltering heat.   His bat speed is amazing.  Before he broke up the no hitter in the 7th inning yesterday with this line drive hit at 109.3mph (https://www.mlb.com/video/rafa...ncini?t=most-popular), he hit a line shot even faster and harder right at Mancini in his previous at bat and the RightFielder barely had any time to react or try to get out of the way.   It was the  hardest hit baseball I'd ever seen (in person).    This guy is a keeper.  

As for the rest of the team, I'll hold my applause.

I got to Logan Friday and changed my mind. I decided I didn’t want to be in 100 with 60% humidity all weekend. I knew my son would bail on me. The forecast for the Jersey Shore was 95 and 60%. Plus there would have been at least ten people in the house. See ya next time! Boog’s can wait.

I drove to Maine instead for the 88 and 60% humidity. Most of all I avoided a lot of aggravation not watching the Sox. Had I flown with my girlfriend to Fort Lauderdale it would have been my coolest option. Hard to believe!

i saw an article Devers has the most 95mph exit velocity hit balls in MLB this year.

Last edited by RJM

RJM,

You chose wisely....except for Boogs...the roasted turkey was delicious as always.   My middle son got us great seats as my Fathers Day present to Camden Yard (yesterday).   3 rows behind 3rd base in the direct sun...I believe the heat index was 110 degrees.   We saw the Red Sox bat in the top of the first then quickly tried to find ANY seats in the shade which was still pretty freaking hot.   I was telling my son that Mancini is their best hitter and that Cashner needs to be careful...no sooner had I finished my sentence that he crushed one over the CF fence.  

Except for Devers it was a offensive disaster.  He was the only one with 3 quality at bats.  I was not a big Devers  until May of this year.  He's 22 years old and he's got a huge upside.

Enjoy Maine and the way life should be.

 

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fenwaysouth posted:

RJM,

You chose wisely....except for Boogs...the roasted turkey was delicious as always.   My middle son got us great seats as my Fathers Day present to Camden Yard (yesterday).   3 rows behind 3rd base in the direct sun...I believe the heat index was 110 degrees.   We saw the Red Sox bat in the top of the first then quickly tried to find ANY seats in the shade which was still pretty freaking hot.   I was telling my son that Mancini is their best hitter and that Cashner needs to be careful...no sooner had I finished my sentence that he crushed one over the CF fence.  

Except for Devers it was a offensive disaster.  He was the only one with 3 quality at bats.  I was not a big Devers  until May of this year.  He's 22 years old and he's got a huge upside.

Enjoy Maine and the way life should be.

 

I go back and forth between the North Shore and Portland. 

I used to buy tickets in advance for when the Sox played in Baltimore. Sometimes I’ve synched up my trip with the Sox playing the Phillies a few days before or after. My kids have remained in the Philadelphia area as adults. 

A couple of years ago I decided buying tickets in advance to Camden Yards wasn’t necessary. My son and I walked up and paid $20 for two obstructed views. We proceeded to sit in the middle of an empty area on the field level by third base about twenty-five rows back. They were $75-100 seats. 

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SultanofSwat posted:

That's why they call it 'early bat speed' folks.  Bat speed is generated before he started dropping his knees and throwing his hands. Most of it is generated by 'hip/elbow slot'. 

The speed didn't reach it's full potential since he pushed his hands, but it was enough to hit a HR up a few rows in RF.

Most kids and HS players don't have early bat speed. 

(also, if you look at dominick's 4th image, he doesn't actually drop to his knees until AFTER he hit the ball. Plus he wasn't 'out on his front foot' like the announcer said - his torso 'stayed back' nicely)

If you look at his stats for that HR:

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com...game_date=2019-07-21

Exit speed - 98.4 mph

29 deg launch angle

380 feet

Bingo Sultan.

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