quote:Originally posted by Sandman:quote:Originally posted by baseballpapa:
Can you blow up the right-handed hitter like you did Rose?
I'm not sure who it is? Is it Rose from the other side?
It's Rose on both sides.
It's Rose on both sides.
It's Rose on both sides.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by PGStaff:
Hate to argue, but I actually see the straight part of the hand path in that swing.
The inside line of the batters box shows Rose's top hand first appears on top of the line somewhere near the back of home plate. The top hand does not appear to cross the line and appears to continue fairly closely on that line for about 17 inches as he rotates. [QUOTE]
Are these all straight lines too or do they just look it?
Hate to argue, but I actually see the straight part of the hand path in that swing.
The inside line of the batters box shows Rose's top hand first appears on top of the line somewhere near the back of home plate. The top hand does not appear to cross the line and appears to continue fairly closely on that line for about 17 inches as he rotates. [QUOTE]
Are these all straight lines too or do they just look it?
My first post was before I saw Sandman's great work.
I now change my argument.
Look at the bottom hand very closely. Forget Sandman's path and just look at that bottom hand. I'm fairly certain I see it exactly over the line for about 8-9 inches. Don't I? Don't you guys?
In other words in that clip the hands rotate quickly in every segment except the one where they go past the plate.
By the time I get this posted, suppose there will be several more posts. You guys are hard to catch up to.
I now change my argument.
Look at the bottom hand very closely. Forget Sandman's path and just look at that bottom hand. I'm fairly certain I see it exactly over the line for about 8-9 inches. Don't I? Don't you guys?
In other words in that clip the hands rotate quickly in every segment except the one where they go past the plate.
By the time I get this posted, suppose there will be several more posts. You guys are hard to catch up to.
Sandman,
I think the line passing the plate would be longer than all the other straight lines.
Sorry
I think the line passing the plate would be longer than all the other straight lines.
Sorry
quote:Originally posted by baseballpapa:
Can you blow up the right-handed hitter like you did Rose?
quote:Originally posted by PGStaff:
My first post was before I saw Sandman's great work.
I now change my argument.
Look at the bottom hand very closely. Forget Sandman's path and just look at that bottom hand. I'm fairly certain I see it exactly over the line for about 8-9 inches. Don't I? Don't you guys?
In other words in that clip the hands rotate quickly in every segment except the one where they go past the plate.
By the time I get this posted, suppose there will be several more posts. You guys are hard to catch up to.
I can see what you're saying PG... they do seem to kinda stay straight for just a tad longer there.
However... I still don't think this can by any stretch of the imagination be considered "straight line to the ball" (or whatever others "handsy" cues get used), can it?
quote:Look at the hands traveling toward ball Papa and you will see they pull away toward first base chalkline before contact of ball therefore not remaining in a straight line to contact
Your welcome for the photos PaPa, Coach Little said hello in clip(I thought was rolling) to you PaPa and your son. Will probably call Tommy.
That statement I first made to PaPa would support that short segment of beginning of rotation as straight line for about 8-9 inches as Jerry points out even though Sand's great artwork looks circular all-the-way. peace Shep
quote:Originally posted by Infopimp:
Sandman
As if you don't have anything to do.
Draw a line from Rose's hands starting point to the ball at contact. And another to where his hands are at contact.
That would represent a straight line hand path. That would also require extension at the elbows to counter the rotating shoulders and still get the hands to the target.
Doesn't happen.
Now I'm having trouble keeping up!
Thank you.
Sandman,
No, I wasn't talking about straight line to the ball. And I do see the rotation in the swing. I also think within that rotation most great hitters will have a spot that gets linear for just a split hair longer and it is through the hitting zone.
I'm not sure whoever mentioned a straight line was meaning the same thing that pimp thought. I think he might have meant keeping things short within rotation rather than reaching. Maybe not?
Once again, I suppose there will be 3 or 4 posts before I get this posted. Always behind... story of my life!
No, I wasn't talking about straight line to the ball. And I do see the rotation in the swing. I also think within that rotation most great hitters will have a spot that gets linear for just a split hair longer and it is through the hitting zone.
I'm not sure whoever mentioned a straight line was meaning the same thing that pimp thought. I think he might have meant keeping things short within rotation rather than reaching. Maybe not?
Once again, I suppose there will be 3 or 4 posts before I get this posted. Always behind... story of my life!
No No Sandman. You're playing cinematic tricks on us now bro fo sho.
Look at RHH a few replies up....no way is ball hit this deep in hitting zone.
Shep
Look at RHH a few replies up....no way is ball hit this deep in hitting zone.
Shep
quote:Originally posted by Infopimp:
Thank you.
YW. I also just added the hand path arc to the same pic w/ the lines.
Ditto. Thank you for correcting that Sand. peace Shep
quote:Originally posted by Shepster:
No No Sandman. You're playing cinematic tricks on us now bro fo sho.
Look at RHH a few replies up....no way is ball hit this deep in hitting zone.
Shep
Huh?
quote:pimp thought.
Sand
Talking about that straight lines you created when you know it's circular before you added other curved line ...that's why IP said thank you because you corrected yourself by adding additional circular line,
peace. Shep
Talking about that straight lines you created when you know it's circular before you added other curved line ...that's why IP said thank you because you corrected yourself by adding additional circular line,
peace. Shep
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quote:Originally posted by PGStaff:
Sandman,
No, I wasn't talking about straight line to the ball. ... I'm not sure whoever mentioned a straight line was meaning the same thing that pimp thought. I think he might have meant keeping things short within rotation rather than reaching. Maybe not?
I know you didn't write it PG, but baseballpapa did:
quote:The path of the hands is a straight line (linear). The shortest distance to any point is always a straight line.
Rose RH looks the same... From this angle his hands at front corner of plate to the next stop action appear straight despite the line drawn. Do they not?
Jerry has a valid point fellas. RHH Rose clip does show hands remaining in a straighter line for a few more inches opposed to the LHH Rose clip fo sho. Up past front corner of plate or at least even with corner of plate. peace
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