quote:Originally posted by Infopimp:
Kind of disproves weathervaning, eh?
So....we've killed counter-rotation. We've killed leg hinging. We've killed weathervaning. We've killed heel drop starting the swing. We've killed torque.
What good is he?
He's real good at the mental side of hitting.
quote:Originally posted by Infopimp:
No idea.
It's not a teach.
quote:Originally posted by troy99:
So....lets start with simple. I teach my boys a no-stride swing. They are taught to be 50/50. They load (very minor looking move) the hips, as they see the ball in pitchers hand. This move results in the front foot coming up slightly off the heel. At the time of commitment the hips lead (explosively) the shoulders (hands). The back elbow stays close to the body unless they are fooled. (teach them it is like a punch). Work hard to keep the arms from casting out. This is the most common repeated flaw.
Now I know you'll hate this but we also teach them to hit thru the ball (3 balls for the young ones). I understand why you don't like this....Question... for less than MLB caliber hitters...do you see no value in "staying thru the zone" a little to compensate for slightly poor timing?
What happens in your model if we are going to that specific point in space but your timing is off just a little?
Am i ruining these guys?
quote:Originally posted by BlueDog:
Info, do you think Diablo is capable of unlearning?......
quote:Originally posted by Infopimp:quote:Originally posted by troy99:
So....lets start with simple. I teach my boys a no-stride swing. They are taught to be 50/50. They load (very minor looking move) the hips, as they see the ball in pitchers hand. This move results in the front foot coming up slightly off the heel. At the time of commitment the hips lead (explosively) the shoulders (hands). The back elbow stays close to the body unless they are fooled. (teach them it is like a punch). Work hard to keep the arms from casting out. This is the most common repeated flaw.
Now I know you'll hate this but we also teach them to hit thru the ball (3 balls for the young ones). I understand why you don't like this....Question... for less than MLB caliber hitters...do you see no value in "staying thru the zone" a little to compensate for slightly poor timing?
What happens in your model if we are going to that specific point in space but your timing is off just a little?
Am i ruining these guys?
Put them in their stance. Tilt over the plate. Stick the butt out. Vertical load...go forward by turning......Rotate........like hell.
Experiment with arm/hand position and posture until they can rotate the barrel to the ball without using arms/hands.
Rotate like hell. Imagine you're in a tube the width of your body/shoulders/whatever. Rotate like hell to force the energy upward out the top.
quote:Originally posted by troy99:
What age groups have you taught this?
quote:Originally posted by BaseballCoach:
Would you please give us your interpretation of the term vertical load? Thanks.
quote:Originally posted by Infopimp:quote:Originally posted by troy99:
What age groups have you taught this?
16 and up.
quote:Originally posted by Infopimp:
What does a linebacker do just before unloading on the ball carrier?
What does a basketball player do just before jumping?
quote:Originally posted by BaseballCoach:quote:Originally posted by Infopimp:
What does a linebacker do just before unloading on the ball carrier?
What does a basketball player do just before jumping?
Good analogy. I can relate to that.
But, how would you descibe that movement in regards to a hitter preparing to swing? Not only do I need to understand it, I would need to be able to accurately explain it to my players.
Thanks again. You guys are on a roll tonight.
P.S.--- I know how I might describe it and can only guess how somebody else might describe it. But to further my understanding of your beliefs, I need to know how you would describe it.
quote:I highly recommend a DVD by Steve Englishbey. Former first round draft choice of Houston Astros. Absolutely the best at teaching pelvic loading/unloading. If you want I'll give you his email address.
quote:But, get into the hitting stance, stick your butt out, bend at the waist. You'll end up in a position very similar to a linebacker. You should feel a load between the upper and lower body. Don't push with the legs but use them for stability as you unload this relationship between the upper and lower body. Similar to a linebacker unloading (although the linebacker doesn't rotate along with it).
quote:Originally posted by BaseballCoach:quote:I highly recommend a DVD by Steve Englishbey. Former first round draft choice of Houston Astros. Absolutely the best at teaching pelvic loading/unloading. If you want I'll give you his email address.
If you don't mind, I'll PM you about this.quote:But, get into the hitting stance, stick your butt out, bend at the waist. You'll end up in a position very similar to a linebacker. You should feel a load between the upper and lower body. Don't push with the legs but use them for stability as you unload this relationship between the upper and lower body. Similar to a linebacker unloading (although the linebacker doesn't rotate along with it).
When you say, "Don't push with the legs", are you saying.....don't push upward? That's how I would picture a "linebacker" unloading.....but then again, I've never been instructed on or played football....only baseball and basketball (wouldn't a basketball player unload upward to jump?).
More clarification please?
quote:Originally posted by Infopimp:
What you want is the energy turning the pelvis against those legs. You don't want the energy into the legs pushing the pelvis.
