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Originally posted by ILVBB:
I am going to take a different tack with this discussion.

I am big believer in hitters are "trained" to hit. I know, what an obvious statement. However, most people really don't think about how and when kids learn.

I can remember many a little league game with parents yelling "a walk is as good as a hit." A true statement, but what is the message that they are passing on to an 8-12 year old? The kid is sitting there, not wanting to make a mistake, not wanting to strike out and what does he do? He freezes. After a while this becomes part of his learned behavior, if I don't swing maybe I will walk. Or alternatively, maybe I will wait until I have 2 strikes and take a swing then.

I go back to my years of coaching, I tried to instill in kids, that hitting was fun. Go up there take a hack, if you hit the ball hard you accomplished something. The message was fundementally different, the game is tough enough, why let kids worry about making a mistake when it is suppose to be fun.

Moving foward several years latter, my son has taken that basic premise to his college level game. His purpose when he steps into the batters box is hit the ball hard. He has learned the numbers of the game better and become more selective, but he still goes up with the "I am going to knock the cover off the ball attitude." It is a simple philosophy, but if you make too much of the game you loose the joy with that failure starts to get the better of you.

So much for in-depth "psycho nonsense."


I agree with everything you said. I believe the last thing a child should be told before he enters the batters' box is "Do your best." If the child strikes out simply say, "You did your best and that is all you can ask of yourself." If the child gets a hit, the next time he is in the dugout tell him, "You should be very proud of yourself."

Little League children are in what is referred to as the "egocentric stage" of their development. They are incredibly vulnerable to everything they hear. An excellent book that might help explain this phenomenon is available at amazon.com called Mastering The Mental Side Of Hitting.

There is also another great book that will help you communicate with children (as well as adults) available at amazon.com. It is called How To Talk So Kids Will Listen, And Listen So Kids Will Talk.
hkrelax - your first two posts started out a little rocky but since then have been excellent. You can be a positive force here on the hsbbweb and I'll also consider visiting your website.

Question - bottom of the ninth, two outs, guy on third base with tying run. Assume both the pitcher and the hitter are using every mental tool in the book and are both operating with 100% confidence and mental visualiizations in that situation. Which one wins? Do we just go back to the tried and true baseball percentages at that point and predict the hitter will have about a 30% chance to succeed?

Obviously, it is unlikely that two players would ever be so equally matched mentally so someone who might brush off the mental side training might in fact be placing themselves at a disadvantage.
I watched the YouTube video, and I must say I am deeply skeptical.

You claim you can detect a "weak muscle response" when the subject is under emotional stress, by applying downward pressure on the outstretched arm. Looked to me as if you just pushed harder on the arm when you wanted to claim a weak muscle response.

You also claimed to be able to detect something about the brain hemisphere by touching either side of the head. Not sure what you were detecting there. It seemed very Spock-like.

You also claim that "the body remembers everything ever done to it." I'm not sure what that really means either.

Don't take this wrong - I enjoy talking about the mental side of hitting. But I was completely unconvinced about your theory of hemispheric kinesiology.
Please note that what you saw was an excerpt. The DVD Change Your Thinking, Change Your Life is 90 minutes long and is much more comprehensive than the excerpt. It explains the conscious and subconscious mind; the critical factor; critical factor bypass; the egocentric stage of developent; muscle testing; the right and left hemispheres of the brain; stress; synthesizing events; how brain dominance adversely affects what we do whether its swinging a bat or throwing a baseball.

Unfortunately Hemispheric Kinesiology will not resonate with everyone. I sincerely appreciate your feed back.
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Originally posted by ClevelandDad:
hkrelax - your first two posts started out a little rocky but since then have been excellent. You can be a positive force here on the hsbbweb and I'll also consider visiting your website.

Question - bottom of the ninth, two outs, guy on third base with tying run. Assume both the pitcher and the hitter are using every mental tool in the book and are both operating with 100% confidence and mental visualiizations in that situation. Which one wins? Do we just go back to the tried and true baseball percentages at that point and predict the hitter will have about a 30% chance to succeed?

Obviously, it is unlikely that two players would ever be so equally matched mentally so someone who might brush off the mental side training might in fact be placing themselves at a disadvantage.


When we are dealing with the mind we are dealing with something we cannot see. Although I cannot see a player's mind, I can see what kinds of experiences that mind is creating.

For instance, if a player can only bat .200 in a season, I have to assume that he has information stored in his mind that supports him in doing that or he would be doing something else.

I also agree with you that it is highly unlikely that both pitcher and batter will be in the same place mentally. Whoever is the most relaxed will get the upper hand because when you are relaxed your brain functions at maximum capacity and that is when you experience peak performance.

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