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The gap between the good and the bad teams in MLB is pretty large. 4 100 win teams and 4 100 loss teams. It's never happened. I know there have been teams with worse records, but you're going to have a hard time convincing me the Tigers weren't one of the worst ever. Same for the Marlins the past few years. I don't believe they're necessarily tanking, they're just not going after FA and veterans until they know what they have coming up. So how do you combat this. How do you prevent the Mariners going 1-18 against the Astros? 

Does MLB start fining teams for not winning X amount of games in an X year span. Loss of draft picks, cap space, etc? Attendance is down for the 4th straight year. Strikeouts are outpacing hits. Why would anybody that isn't a baseball regular want to pay for tickets, pay to park, pay to eat, to watch their team lose while striking out 12x?

The question is: if teams are really bad and the ball isn't put in play half the time, how do you convince people to shell out the money and go to games? 

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The issue is that Revenue isn't really tied to performance anymore because most of the money comes from cable tv (which are fixed payout  long term contracts and not tied to tv ratings) so a half empty stadium doesn't really hurt the owners that much. Also teams became smarter with giving long contracts to 30+ year old guys, you don't give 200m to a 30 yo hitter anymore who will make you better the first 3 years of the contract and then is pretty much useless the last 5-6 years and also the promise of rebuild keeps the fans happy because they hope for a better future which is something people love.

To be fair the full rebuild model (wouldn't even call it tanking) worked pretty well (Astros, cubs, braves) but when too many teams do it it becomes less effective because prospect prices go up (Don't get as much of a haul anymore) and only so many teams can win the WS.

Another issue is that front offices are smarter, now every idiot can calculate aging curves and prospect surplus value and projections are widely available. This makes trades and signings pretty boring because everyone knows how much it will be. This used to be much more entertaining when dumb GMs like Dave Stewart were around who would make dumb trades. Sabermetrics made the game more exiting but when everyone does  it there is a stalemate. The best time was really the time when only like a third of the front offices were smart and exploiting the dumb ones.

But of course you can't expect front offices take the blue pill and pretend they are dumb away so that isn't something that can be resolved.

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I first had my suggestion for basketball when the SIxers were obviously tanking. It would discourage tanking in any sport. A team can’t draft within five picks of their previous season draft pick. 

If a team has the worst record once they get the top pick. The next year the best they can do is 6th. The next year the best they can do is 11th. And so on ....

The current disparity in talent is making the standings top and bottom heavy. Normally, 95 wins clinches a division. This year in the American League it leaves the team out of the post season. 

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RJM posted:

I first had my suggestion for basketball when the SIxers were obviously tanking. It would discourage tanking in any sport. A team can’t draft within five picks of their previous season draft pick. 

If a team has the worst record once they get the top pick. The next year the best they can do is 6th. The next year the best they can do is 11th. And so on ....

The current disparity in talent is making the standings top and bottom heavy. Normally, 95 wins clinches a division. This year in the American League it leaves the team out of the post season. 

With the NBA draft being only two round it matters more. But I was thinking something along the same lines. A pretty big fine for more than 95 losses, picks fall X spots in each round if you lose more than 100. Something that prevents teams from being a joke each year. 

I know revenue is up, cable numbers are great, and little league is getting back into form, but turn on any MLB game and a homerun is hit into a section with 0 people. I think that's pretty embarrassing, especially when it ends up on every highlight. 

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