Relax...he is only looking at one swing...not his worth as player/man.... How can we talk hitting if we can't discuss what we like/do not like in a swing
I was made my comment in response to the post, "What were his postseason numbers?" by Linear. Not to anything anyone else said.
I am very relaxed by the way.
Brian Doyle...Great name!
quote:Originally posted by bubandbran:
So what, he had a bad post season. The Astros would not have gotten to the playoffs without the year he had. Your criticism is of players is unacceptable. Either grab a bat and head to a try out, or back off. It is not as easy as A+B+C+D= basehit. If it were, then guys like you would be in the big leagues. Morgan Ensberg isn't criticizing how you run your pool hall is he?
Are your knickers bunched?
I've said repeatedely, this guy has a good swing. And, that this one isn't a good swing. But it's great he punched a single with it.
Maybe the other thread, where you faded away has something to do with those knickers.
No knickers bunched, I made my comment in response to you saying, "What were his post season numbers?" That was a dig at a very good player. Don't act like you didn't say something derogitory about him.
Pointing out his inconsistency. Been like that his entire career, although the up numbers are up.
He led his team all year. Great swing.
He had a different swing in the playoffs. Wasn't pressure. Wasn't good pitching (competely). It was the swing you see here.
I hope he figures it out and gets it consistent. It's definately in there somewhere.
He led his team all year. Great swing.
He had a different swing in the playoffs. Wasn't pressure. Wasn't good pitching (competely). It was the swing you see here.
I hope he figures it out and gets it consistent. It's definately in there somewhere.
His swing in the playoffs was different. He looked lost, but that happens. It just happend at a bad time for him.
I agree with Linear and BudandBran here. Not a good swing and I have seen Ensberg take some great swngs. But hitting technique and actually hitting in the trenches are 2 different things. Hitting will always be a reaction to the pitchers action, and it is one of survival. Those that can get the job done most often will get paid to do it. And only 750 or so have proven that they can do it enough to be there.
Love Morgan's swing. Great position to hit when foot is down. Length in the front arm, gets back elbow down. AND GETS OFF HIS BACK SIDE. LOVE IT.
Bottom line for me, good swing or poor swing, is the stats line at the seasons end--- forget the post season --many excellent players have poor post seasons--Ensberg's was not unique-- I can go back to Gil Hodges "ofer" in the WS when they were holding novena for him in Brooklyn churches.
Incidently not every at bat can be perfect given all the variables involved
Incidently not every at bat can be perfect given all the variables involved
quote:Originally posted by LOW337:
Love Morgan's swing. Great position to hit when foot is down. Length in the front arm, gets back elbow down. AND GETS OFF HIS BACK SIDE. LOVE IT.
What exactly are you trying to say? How does it apply to a High Level Swing?
I agree with Linear's comments. I normally save every MLB swing clip I can find to show my sons. This one I did not save. This is the first one FlippJ has ever posted that I did not save.
Not with this swing.
I got a hit once off 90+ too.
I'm still working.
I got a hit once off 90+ too.
I'm still working.
Could someone show a clip of the "perfect" swing vs a 95 mph heater on high/inside corner?
These ML pitchers don't just groove everything. If Ensberg is like most ML hitters he's looking for something down in the strike zone. That's where one might expect "his" perfect swing to be geared.
Opening day 2004 in Busch Stadium, I saw Pujols take a high/tight fastball, put an ugly swing on it and rip a double off the 3rd basemans glove. I knew/know the pitcher very very well! The game might be archived on MLB.com, but not sure. It was not Pujols best swing, of course! In this case, he gave up on his best swing and just hit the ball!!! Should of been scored an error!
These ML pitchers don't just groove everything. If Ensberg is like most ML hitters he's looking for something down in the strike zone. That's where one might expect "his" perfect swing to be geared.
Opening day 2004 in Busch Stadium, I saw Pujols take a high/tight fastball, put an ugly swing on it and rip a double off the 3rd basemans glove. I knew/know the pitcher very very well! The game might be archived on MLB.com, but not sure. It was not Pujols best swing, of course! In this case, he gave up on his best swing and just hit the ball!!! Should of been scored an error!
bbscout,
I agree with you. This looks like a good swing to me. I think we are judging alot from one swing. What was the situation in the game and the count? I think he was just a little out in front which caused him to get on top of the ball a little, but, a quarter of an inch lower on the ball we would be saying what a nice long ball that was. He is in a very strong position at contact, and that is what I really like to look for.
I agree with you. This looks like a good swing to me. I think we are judging alot from one swing. What was the situation in the game and the count? I think he was just a little out in front which caused him to get on top of the ball a little, but, a quarter of an inch lower on the ball we would be saying what a nice long ball that was. He is in a very strong position at contact, and that is what I really like to look for.
This is just one swing......I think his stats prove he has a good swing (or, less likely, he compensates very well for a not so good one.) I am not trying to value Morgan Ensberg...nor do I expect every swing he takes to be great, unless it's in batting practice. I'm trying to fully understand (with varying degrees of success) the best way to teach my kids to hit. So, I really appreciate the guys who post here that are willing to give concrete opinions on the swing THEY SEE. Rather than ..he drove in 100 runs so this swing must be good. That makes no sense, and does not help me understand what is good and not so good about THIS swing. BTW just because I like the opinions does not mean I agree with them... but they do make me think... I also understand that some think that the micro-dissection of a swing is useless...I consider that opinion also... Thanks...
Thanks for sticking up for me....LOL and the translation bbscout.
GFK....I was just answering a question posed by bbscout....he asked what we thought of Morgan's swing......Most guys at that level do many of the same things he does.....how successful they are is another thing.....He (as do most good hitters as a HIGH level) gives himself a chance to center the ball.....sure situations change, which will in turn change his approach....but the guy but a good swing on the ball in the clip provided by bbscout......sure he was tad out in front but at least he gave himself a chance to center (hit ball hard) the ball.
As far as a high level swing goes, well you just saw one.
As far as my explaination for what I saw.....He does a lot of things right. Foot down early = means the only decision he has to make is NOT to swing (you try and decide to hit a ball 90 or better and do any different). Length in front arm = he gets his hands back ready to hit (he is not Moises or Paul Molitor).
Back elbow down = helps him stay inside of the ball (if your elbow gets too far away from your side you will come around balls) your new nick name will be 6-3......He gets off of his back side = he doesn't squish the bug, helps w/ power as well as giving him a better chance on offspeed stuff...he will get fooled he is human.
Hope this helps....How was that?
As far as a high level swing goes, well you just saw one.
As far as my explaination for what I saw.....He does a lot of things right. Foot down early = means the only decision he has to make is NOT to swing (you try and decide to hit a ball 90 or better and do any different). Length in front arm = he gets his hands back ready to hit (he is not Moises or Paul Molitor).
Back elbow down = helps him stay inside of the ball (if your elbow gets too far away from your side you will come around balls) your new nick name will be 6-3......He gets off of his back side = he doesn't squish the bug, helps w/ power as well as giving him a better chance on offspeed stuff...he will get fooled he is human.
Hope this helps....How was that?
I've got my foot down right now.
Is that early enough?
Is that early enough?
I just went back and looked at the original clip I built those animated GIF's from and realized the information I provided about the at bat was incorrect. The pitch was actually 92mph. The hit came on a 1-0 count with the bases loaded and one out in the top of the third off Atlanta pitcher Tim Hudson.
Jason
Jason
