MSL-Inside Observation

Agreed, my sons out with a Football injury but we havnt missed a week because of the great way its run.

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LuisTiantsStache

Are you related to Domingo?

Thanks for the good words LuisTiatsStache I am glad you are having a great experience. People don't realize how much work is put in Monday-Saturday to put this on. I am glad the Parents are liking the results. I have received many emails this year from parents just like you saying this has been the best exposure they have ever had.

We are not ready for the Week 3 recap but Week 3 of the MSL was one of the best turnouts in 7 years. It was like a class reunion and a who's who of big time coaches. Below is the list.

MORNING
1 Major League Baseball Scouting Bureau
2 Texas Rangers
3 Chicago White Sox
4 Baylor University
5 University of New Mexico
6 Wofford University
7 Wofford University
8 Kansas State University
9 Oklahoma City University
10 University of Central Oklahoma
11 Austin College
12 Richland College
13 Richland College
14 Grayson College
15 Eastfield College
16 North Central Texas College
Both SESSIONS
17 New York Mets
18 Baltimore Orioles
19 Atlanta Braves
20 Miami Marlins
21 Texas Rangers
22 The University of Teaxs at Austin
23 The University of Arkansas
24 The University of Arizona
25 The University of Oklahoma
26 The University of Oklahoma
27 The University of West Virginia
28 The University of West Virginia
29 University of New Mexico
30 Texas Tech University
31 Dallas Baptist University
32 Dallas Baptist University
33 Texas Christian University
34 The University of Texas at Arlington
35 Oral Roberts University
36 The University of Dallas
37 Seminole State College (OK)
38 Navarro College
39 Navarro College
40 Cochise College (AZ)
41 West Texas College
42 West Texas College
43 New Mexico Junior College
44 New Mexico Junior College
45 Harding University (AR)
46 Ranger College
47 Northeast Texas College
48 Northeast Texas College
49 Paris Junior College
50 Paris Junior College
51 Clarendon College
52 The University of Arkansas - Monticello

Was definitely a nice turnout this weekend. Best of luck to all of those young men.

I went this weekend to watch a couple of my kids play. This was the first time I have gone. SHAME ON ME!!! This was a great venue for the kids to play in. I was amazed at the number of small schools present and the number that were watching the 16-17's.

It's easy to get excited about playing for the big boys in Division 1, but most of these kids will not get that opportunity. This is a great chance for them to get to extend their baseball lives.

Great to get to see so many old friends, except for Catcher. Never good to see him.

I agree with all the above, which is why I encouraged/supported the kids off our 17-18U team to play MSL this fall.

Several already have rec'd some quality contacts/interest from various schools/pro scouts listed above.

I appreciate MSL making this opportunity available to the best players, not just one club (DBAT). My guys can compete with the best, and this venue gives them the opportunity to showcase skills locally. And while some think the price is high, you would pay more than that to go to 6 different college showcases in 6 weeks in the fall, especially if you include out-of-town travel...and be seen by a LOT fewer people.

And like Vanlandingham states, only a select few kids get quality D1 offers or get drafted, but there are plenty of opportunities to play at the next level. With the smaller schools in attendance, then all these kids get a chance to be seen.

While I admit its great for your pitchers and catchers, some of your position players can go the season without a ball hit to them. The concept is great, and there are quite a few benefiting from it. They do have the scouts out for sure as promised and its well run, I just dont think there is a lot they can do for some of the position players.

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Originally posted by Hounddawg:
While I admit its great for your pitchers and catchers, some of your position players can go the season without a ball hit to them. The concept is great, and there are quite a few benefiting from it. They do have the scouts out for sure as promised and its well run, I just dont think there is a lot they can do for some of the position players.

Very true. I think this is the case in just about any scenario when you are playing games. Just no way to guarantee "touches." But I know at MSL (as they do at other showcases), you have a good round of "in/out". Also, if you are a batting against a high-end pitcher, and you have some quality ABs, that should get the attention you need... hopefully at that point, interested coaches/scouts can follow the player along (as a position player) for another week or two+.

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Originally posted by Hounddawg:
While I admit its great for your pitchers and catchers, some of your position players can go the season without a ball hit to them. The concept is great, and there are quite a few benefiting from it. They do have the scouts out for sure as promised and its well run, I just dont think there is a lot they can do for some of the position players.

Having been at MSL this year and last I do agree that the scouts focus attention on pitchers, but the next two weeks will involve a skills assessment for each player, which will help scouts evaluate the talents of position players as well. They will focus on many of the measurables, and the kids will be evaluated and ranked. Last year those evaluations helped my son get noticed.

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Originally posted by LuisTiantsStache:
This is my son's first experience in the MSL. I have noticed that someone posts the occasional weekly update on this board. However, I wanted to provide a parent's point of view from this past weekend.

The first word that comes to mind: WOW!

There were easily over 50 college coaches and scouts in attendance. At some fields, the radar guns and crowds behind home plate were several rows deep. Several Div I schools: Univ of Arizona (2012 CWS Champs), TCU, OU, West Virginia, Univ of Texas, Texas Tech, Baylor, Univ of New Mexico and Arkansas to name a few. It was literally a "Who's Who" of college coaches.

I actually overheard a coach in line at the concession stand tell another coach,"Man, these guys get it. This is exactly what we want to see this fall."

As each week has gone by, I have also noticed that the MSL guys have continually improved on communicating with the coaches and scouts. Example: This week they had the entire pitching rotation posted for every single team at every field. I thought this was a great idea!

The MSL guys have been wonderful. Very approachable and helpful. They really seem to enjoy interacting with the players, parents and coaches.

While I have seen some posts and comments about another type of fall scout league (PSL? TSL?), there is no way it's comparable. The level of talent and the amount of exposure in the MSL is absolutely amazing.

Great job guys!

I could not agree more. It has been a great all around experience for my son and well worth the time, effort and money.

Keeps me away from watching those wretched Cowboy games.

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Originally posted by monkeyboy:
Keeps me away from watching those wretched Cowboy games.

The new NFL "No Flag League"!

Orig. posted by LuisTiantsStache:

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As each week has gone by, I have also noticed that the MSL guys have continually improved on communicating with the coaches and scouts. Example: This week they had the entire pitching rotation posted for every single team at every field. I thought this was a great idea!

On this same note, my son missed this past week due to being ill. One college coach inquired about him, not seeing him out there. Later that evening the coach made it a point to contact my son, spoke briefly and hoped to see him the next week. Class Act!

Oh, I think its a great league, dont get me wrong. I'm just not sure if our money wouldnt be better spent next year doing individual showcases. That is something we will have to think about next year, if the boy gets invited again.

I have heard that they can showcase what they got during in and out. Problem for the 10:00 games is that we havent seen a lot of scouts/coaches out there at 9:45 or earlier.

Like I said, I believe this is a great thing, just not sure if its a fit for us.

Hounddawg - I run indivdual type showcases you speak of. I would highly recommend for any player that gets invited to the MSL...... to go.

The number of college coaches + the number of opportunities a player gets to expose himself = an amount worth more than the price MSL charges!

My Dallas area camps are never scheduled during the MSL and there is a reason for that.

What is the MSL college travel team? What ages are they, are they local jr college players. Where do they play at, I can't find a schedule, would be nice to see them play, see their velos, etc., so junior can see what it takes to play it this level. Who coaches this team, don't see any contact info.

I heard that MSL may be extended one week due to all the rain. Any truth to such rumors?

I have heard this from a couple of folks as well.

Hounddawg,

Have you done the math? Money spent on going to one showcase vs 5 the MSL or PSL?

Jupiter or any showcase $300 per player fee
Flight $300
Hotel: $250
Gate: $50
Total = $900 for 3 days

MSL = $650

Does anyone know what the PSL charges?

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Originally posted by gametimer:
I heard that MSL may be extended one week due to all the rain. Any truth to such rumors?

Personally, I hope not. Arms need rest. Most of these guys have been playing non-stop since February.

Yes the MSL will do scout day on Oct 14th due to rain out. This week will be a normal week of play.

KCR
What about the boys going to the AZ Senior Fall Showcase? They will miss the scout day (Oct 14th) if I'm correct being that the dates are the same.

Yes and the ones going to Ft. Meyers would have missed the Oct 7th date if it had not rained. Really no good day to do it, but hopefully you got the MJC scout data in, CG

Newscout -

At this point, I would take him to some college camps with other scouts and coaches in attendence and spend my money there. Doesnt have to be a big showcase like in Florida. Jr. doesnt mind staying more local his first year or two in college and with the cost (even with a scholarship) of a big D1 he is looking at going smaller.

If paying a little more over the course of 5 weeks for him to be able to show his talents more at a camp then at MSL, than its worth the money, FOR US. At 4 weeks in, MSL hasnt been worth it FOR HIM. 3 weeks of games, one ball hit to him to field, and most of his at bats have been walks, with a couple of hits and a strike out.

I do think that this league is a great idea and is really benefitting some players, and the 18s I believe benefit even more. But its not a fit FOR HIM.

I'm not trying to bad mouth this league or Cade. I believe Cade is doing this for the kids. I'm just expressing our experience with it. Its not always going to be a fit for everyone.

The main reason why good players play is because they love the game and they love to compete playing the game.

I think College Camps, at least some of them, are great. However, it will never replace competition with and against the best available players.

This league has talent. Talent draws more talent. We have found that is what most taleneted players are looking for. The exposure becomes a byproduct of lots of talented kids who love playing the game in one spot.

Scouts and college recruiters go where there is talent. They can pick out talented kids very well.

Therefore, I would think the league would be a great fit for any kid with talent.

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Originally posted by PGStaff:
The main reason why good players play is because they love the game and they love to compete playing the game.

I think College Camps, at least some of them, are great. However, it will never replace competition with and against the best available players.

This league has talent. Talent draws more talent. We have found that is what most taleneted players are looking for. The exposure becomes a byproduct of lots of talented kids who love playing the game in one spot.

Scouts and college recruiters go where there is talent. They can pick out talented kids very well.

Therefore, I would think the league would be a great fit for any kid with talent.

How is PG involved in this local matter? You only have 35 Texas kids on your 2014 rankings. I assume Texas may be a little unrepresented at that age level because not as many PG events here, but that is just a guess.

Geez Baba..PG is complimenting the MSL with the quality of talent and you want to bust his balls. 35 Texas kids sounds like a fair amount but I guess it should have been 36.

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Originally posted by ExWrangler:
Geez Baba..PG is complimenting the MSL with the quality of talent and you want to bust his balls. 35 Texas kids sounds like a fair amount but I guess it should have been 36.

Did not mean to be difficult. Just curious as many have speculated that Texas may be underepresented. I probably should have asked question in different forum.

Alee you big jerk!

PG makes sense thanks.

Surely someone on this board is playing in the PSL and the TSL this fall? How this that going? Lets not let the MSL people take over, lets hear about how you guys are doing.

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How is PG involved in this local matter? You only have 35 Texas kids on your 2014 rankings.

Aleebaba,

Not sure what you are getting at. But keeping things like baseball players a local matter is impossible. Is this forum for locals only? It's obviously a great event, but what would someone from Iowa know about that?

Actually we have 34 listed among the top 360 in the NATION! That represents about 10% of all the players in the NATION that are ranked. I'm sure we will be adding to the list as we see more players in the 2014 class. Some of the present kids might move up or down the list.

So we have 1 of every 10 highly ranked kids from the state of Texas. I know Texas is always one of the top states for talent, but is one of every 10 high school players drafted come from Texas? Of course not, one out of every 10 doesn't happen anywhere. My guess is that there are people in California and Florida that feel they are underrepresented.

BTW, Big events like the one mentioned are very helpful, especially for us nonlocals trying to identify the best prospects in the country. They don't always come knocking on our door.

Newscout,

I agree... Anytime information is made available it is going to help some players.

I will ask again, just wanting an answer.....that's all.

What is the MSL college travel team? What ages are they, are they local jr college players. Where do they play at, I can't find a schedule, would be nice to see them play, see their velos, etc., so my son can see what it takes to play it this level. Who coaches this team, don't see any contact info.

Already been answered on another topic: But hear it is again we had 2 coaches that had 4 to 5 players each that could not play in the MSL for other reasons, so they combined also combined with some kids that did not make the MSL from the Tryout. Actually had 2 kids back out of the MSL to play on the travel team because schedule worked better. This team plays showcases on Saturdays and some on Sundays. They are going to Austin this weekend to play at St. Edward's University. Last week they played at NCTC in Gainesville.

ok thanks for clearing some of it up, didn't see it on any of the other topics, if so I wouldn't have asked. Just assumed it was local Jr. college players or something like that. I guess that is what I get for assuming.

I just want to tell the folks at MSL how much we appreciate all of your efforts associated with the Metro Scout League. It has been the best baseball recruiting decision we have made thus far in my son’s baseball career. MSL was the needed catalyst in moving things along in the recruitment process and we are getting close to making our college baseball decision. Our only regret is that we did not participate in MSL last year.

I would recommend this event to all players who have a sincere passion to play baseball at the next level. It is a competitive venue and I have never seen so many scouts at one place at one time. If your son needs another look from a scout this is a perfect place for it.

Job well done MSL.

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Agreed 100% - we had many colleges looking, but when these coaches came out to see my son against some of the best that DFW has to offer was the icing on the cake.

Cade, Flo and Shayne thanks for an unbiased event, I am glad we made this decision and had the opportunity.