Cabbagedad:
I'm taking your advice. The kid is ready to handle himself with the coaches...and no I definately don't want to be "the Dad" or even worse embarass my son or make him feel caught in the middle.
Everyone:
I will work out with him as much as he wants outside school and help him get wherever he desires through practice and hard work. Tournaments start this weekend. I am excited for him and know he will do well. I'll repost later in the year and let you guys know where things go. I know everyone is proud of, and thinks the world of, thier own kids, but I know when I have seen athlete who is a gamer and has natural ability/drive others will never have, so I am confident in time, his day will come! If any of you have kids in 14U ball in Arizona or Texas, we may see you soon this Spring.
Take care everyone!
Awesome. I'm glad you didn't take my directness and some assumptions too personally. Sounds like a great kid and I would bet on you being right that his day will come.
Best wishes.
Best wishes.
5Tools I feel your pain. Mine is your son's age but in 8th grade and the kids that are primary baseball players are already having issues with the high school football coach. No surprise it is TX right.
Tells the parents that he is all for the boys to play multiple sports in high school, but then when you never release your football players from football class it doesn't really send that message. So if my son chooses to play football past his freshman year he will still go to football class for offseason and only participate with the baseball team after school, this will be even during baseball season.
If you are a football player period you train/lift, etc. for football only. No concessions made for some of the lifting that is not good for a baseball player, etc. Not an ideal situation for kids like my son who are baseball first and play football because they enjoy it and all their buddies play as well. This to me is the reason why kids move to playing only one sport in high school.
The other issue you have here is the football coach and the AD are basically one and the same. Football coach is the entire face of the athletic program. Only one guy cares about baseball and that is the head baseball coach and even he has to coach football on some level.
Tells the parents that he is all for the boys to play multiple sports in high school, but then when you never release your football players from football class it doesn't really send that message. So if my son chooses to play football past his freshman year he will still go to football class for offseason and only participate with the baseball team after school, this will be even during baseball season.
If you are a football player period you train/lift, etc. for football only. No concessions made for some of the lifting that is not good for a baseball player, etc. Not an ideal situation for kids like my son who are baseball first and play football because they enjoy it and all their buddies play as well. This to me is the reason why kids move to playing only one sport in high school.
The other issue you have here is the football coach and the AD are basically one and the same. Football coach is the entire face of the athletic program. Only one guy cares about baseball and that is the head baseball coach and even he has to coach football on some level.
My son was drafted by MLB team, didn't sign, now playing D1 college baseball. Similar situation, But football coach was the jerk. My son is a multi sport athlete. V football held him down Freshman and Sophmore years, should have played Varsity. Coach said he quit Junior year, other team mates over heard coach tell him he is done though. V football coach begged him to play Senior year. I told him no, you're not going to play for that P.O.S.! I think my son could have recruited to play D1 football, but we considered him a baseball player playing football. Summary: have your kid play all the sports he wants, he's in High School. It will work out for him in the end. Unfortunately there are coaches that only think about themselves, instead of the kids. Also a lot of the college coaches approve of kids playing multiple sports, because they know the kids can handle a heavy work load. Good luck.
Sadly, the honest truth is that it is pretty tough to compete in the upper years of high school with kids who have been specialized and focusing on one sport for a few years if you have been playing multiple sports.
Multiple sports are terrific for the high school athlete but it's my opinion that all but the most special talent won't play beyond high school if they diversify themselves too much. There are just too many really good kids honing their skills year round at all sports these days.
Last, sad as it is, if I were a coach and had a part time player and a year round guy and they were about the same talent wise, I would take the year round kid for his dedication and also that fact that I could foresee his abilities out reaching the multi sport kid.
Multiple sports are terrific for the high school athlete but it's my opinion that all but the most special talent won't play beyond high school if they diversify themselves too much. There are just too many really good kids honing their skills year round at all sports these days.
Last, sad as it is, if I were a coach and had a part time player and a year round guy and they were about the same talent wise, I would take the year round kid for his dedication and also that fact that I could foresee his abilities out reaching the multi sport kid.
quote:Originally posted by calisportsfan:
Sadly, the honest truth is that it is pretty tough to compete in the upper years of high school with kids who have been specialized and focusing on one sport for a few years if you have been playing multiple sports.
Multiple sports are terrific for the high school athlete but it's my opinion that all but the most special talent won't play beyond high school if they diversify themselves too much. There are just too many really good kids honing their skills year round at all sports these days.
Last, sad as it is, if I were a coach and had a part time player and a year round guy and they were about the same talent wise, I would take the year round kid for his dedication and also that fact that I could foresee his abilities out reaching the multi sport kid.
I don't necessarily agree here. The multisport athlete is most likely a top player in one of his sports he plays who happens to be prety good at other sports as well. I see a bigger ceiling on the wel rounded athlete who hasn't spent year round honing one skill because eventually when they weed out the sports and specialize, they too will be advanced when they put the same amount of time in on one sport. The best all-around athletes adapt and catch up fast and can bypass the one sport athlete in all around ability.
I don't necessarily agree here. The multisport athlete is most likely a top player in one of his sports he plays who happens to be prety good at other sports as well. I see a bigger ceiling on the wel rounded athlete who hasn't spent year round honing one skill because eventually when they weed out the sports and specialize, they too will be advanced when they put the same amount of time in on one sport. The best all-around athletes adapt and catch up fast and can bypass the one sport athlete in all around ability.
Great post...agree 100%
Great post...agree 100%
He's not a pitcher is he? Problem with sitting out and playing too many other sports is that they usu. miss conditioning/practices too. If he's a pitcher you cannot not pitch for months and expect to come back in any shape to help the team-esp. at age 14. Also depends on size of school. If it's a smaller school then yes you will see many sport athletes. If it's a all male school or some program that is top ranked in your state, then it's very diff. to give each team the time needed. You also have to worry about doing too much and injuries. He would have to be amazing to set out of baseball for 7 months through football/basketball and come back and be on your game in one week of tryouts. Choose one or two that you have a passion for and find places to play-school or other.good luck
Last spring, the school district next to mine won the 4A- biggest schools- state championship in baseball and lacrosse. (and tennis) Both teams had s****r players on their rosters. The past fall, their s****r team won the state championship, with baseball and lacrosse players on the roster.
As far as high school teams go, I'm still not buying the '24/7, 365' makes you better. If students at this school were confined to one sport, could they have won three state championships? I doubt it.
As far as high school teams go, I'm still not buying the '24/7, 365' makes you better. If students at this school were confined to one sport, could they have won three state championships? I doubt it.
quote:I'm still not buying the '24/7, 365' makes you better.
Antzdad, I am not one who beleives you must only play one sport to be good or even great ( Tom Glavine= baseball & Hockey) However if you concentrate on one sport 24/7 & 365 you will be better at that sport than if you split the year on two sports. Some other things to consider are injuries. Now I know they are not gauranteed but when my Son was in 8th Grade he broke his wrist in Dec. Missed all of his Baseball workouts in Jan & Feb & it set him Back. He gave up Basketball after that & it was the best move he ever made. He liked playing Basketball but LOVES playing Baseball.
Every situation & Player is different. Again I am not opposed to a Kid playing 2 or 3 sports if thats what he wants but there is absolutley no doubt that any player would be a better player at a particular sport if they were 24/7 365 at that particular sport.
Ah, but you left out part of my statement.
"As far as high school TEAMS go..."
If a coach's goal (any sport) is a state title, he should use all the help he can get. If a basketball player can catch TD passes, if a football player can box out and rebound, if a s****r player can hit .450, a coach would be a fool not to welcome them.
Injuries... they happen. My brother told me yesterday, his niece, a potential college field hockey player, just blew her knee out. Dancing.
"As far as high school TEAMS go..."
If a coach's goal (any sport) is a state title, he should use all the help he can get. If a basketball player can catch TD passes, if a football player can box out and rebound, if a s****r player can hit .450, a coach would be a fool not to welcome them.
Injuries... they happen. My brother told me yesterday, his niece, a potential college field hockey player, just blew her knee out. Dancing.
I agree with all that. My only point is a player can be better at a particular sport if he/she works on it 24/7 365.
Dancing??? YIKES
Dancing??? YIKES
I do not subscribe to the 24/7/365 approach as being the best one NExessarily for improvement in any one sport.
Especially for a late development sport such as baseball
Especially for a late development sport such as baseball
My son gave up football when he entered high school. He said it was hard to hit on Friday and play fallball on the weekend. Bigger was he was afraid he would get hurt and miss baseball. He tore his MCL and PCL in his first day of showcase ball on a collision at the plate. It was as much collision as he would have experienced on the football field. Then he had shoulder seperation surgery when he fell on his shoulder rehabbing his knee. He started the baseball season at DH three weeks after tossing away the sling. He missed his senior year of s0ccer.quote:Originally posted by AntzDad:
Ah, but you left out part of my statement.
"As far as high school TEAMS go..."
If a coach's goal (any sport) is a state title, he should use all the help he can get. If a basketball player can catch TD passes, if a football player can box out and rebound, if a s****r player can hit .450, a coach would be a fool not to welcome them.
Injuries... they happen. My brother told me yesterday, his niece, a potential college field hockey player, just blew her knee out. Dancing.
There's a point of diminishing returns on training.quote:Originally posted by CBMDad:
I agree with all that. My only point is a player can be better at a particular sport if he/she works on it 24/7 365.
Dancing??? YIKES
quote:Originally posted by RJM:There's a point of diminishing returns on training.quote:Originally posted by CBMDad:
I agree with all that. My only point is a player can be better at a particular sport if he/she works on it 24/7 365.
Dancing??? YIKES
Totally off topic, but have you ever posted on different baseball message boards under the screen name of "TG" Just wondering.
Hi everyone:
I think there is a misconception...my son does plays baseball year round...he played last spring, attended the incoming freshman summer camp, attended the high school camps at university of Washington and Florida state university as a 13 year old in the 9-12 grade group and then played tournaments during the fall during football season...it's now march 3 and he has been practicing for 3 months prepping for spring ball...the only ball he didn't play was fall baseball for the school because that was not allowed...heck he used to run off the football field after games in the fall to meet me at the parking lot to make it to baseball on time...used to go to baseball in his football gear
I think there is a misconception...my son does plays baseball year round...he played last spring, attended the incoming freshman summer camp, attended the high school camps at university of Washington and Florida state university as a 13 year old in the 9-12 grade group and then played tournaments during the fall during football season...it's now march 3 and he has been practicing for 3 months prepping for spring ball...the only ball he didn't play was fall baseball for the school because that was not allowed...heck he used to run off the football field after games in the fall to meet me at the parking lot to make it to baseball on time...used to go to baseball in his football gear
quote:Originally posted by CBMDad:
I agree with all that. My only point is a player can be better at a particular sport if he/she works on it 24/7 365.
Dancing??? YIKES
What do you think of Christopher Walken as an actor?