Muscle Milk

It is expensive. Never used it. Meat,eggs,milk all have complete protein and taste good. A quarter pound of beef typically has about 25 grams of protein. A full chicken breast has about 50 grams of protein. Milk has 1 gram of protein per oz. - so a quart has 32 grams of protein. A large egg has 7 grams protein.
If you consume 4 eggs for breakfast, 2 cans of tuna for lunch, drink a quart of milk with each of 3 meals and another quart later in the evening and have a 12 oz. steak for dinner - that would be 280 grams of protein for the day, not counting all the other food stuff that should be consumed (bread, fruit, veggies, etc.). About twice what I would suspect you could use.

Tim Robertson

True Tim but I don't think you would be eating this every day, particulary tuna every day for HSers would be unsafe. Protein powders are an easy way to work in additional protein and are also easy to take as far as work out timing.

To answer the question I don't know. I know Jon Doyle suggested ProtoWhey in the past. My son has used Designer Whey and GNC's Wheybolic as well as a Casein protein in the morning or evening.

I think if you get a high quality Whey based protein and use it after working out and a Casein in the morning or evening you should be fine. There is so much missinformation out there regarding this stuff it is hard to get a good answer.

Jon if you are around I would be curious to what you think.

Thanks for the replies so far. It will be intersesting to see what Jon Doyle has to say. Again thanks.

If one feels that tuna is unsafe, you can substitute chicken, lean hamburger, other fish, turkey, etc.
MuscleMilk is far more expensive than whey protein from what I've seen. If money is no object then have at it. Many have problems with protein powders/drinks/bars due to what is put into them. They have very little nutrition from a food perspective - where are the phytochemicals, trace nutrients, etc.?
If lack of money or gas, bloating, other internal problems plague you with protein powders, etc. - try food, it usually works better.
A good inexpensive Carb/protein powder is powdered milk.
Tim Robertson

it 28-32 bucks..not that expensive considering price of other products out there.

28-32 bucks for how much protein? Find out cost per gram of protein vs. cost of food per gram of protein. Also what other nutrients are in there? Added synthetic vitamins and minerals? What is the plan and purpose for taking a protein powder? If one takes any protein powder and justifies the cost (however that is done - costs less than chicken on sale, tuna, etc., money for supplements is no object, can't stand the taste of meat, etc.) then one should also look at nutrient value - food has supplements beat hands down. Please note that supplements are to supplement a nutrient dense diet not substitute for one.

Tim Robertson

MM I feel is a good value....

Has protein, glutamine, and creatine all in one and it is not too expensive.

Please dont take this as an argument , but muscle milk has creatine? Just curious as I didnt think it did.I know it used to but though they removed it.
My son uses ON (optimal nutrition ) Jon has told me before that Optimal Nutrition is a pretty good protein supplement.
As well drinking lots of milk is a very good supplement.

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Please note that supplements are to supplement a nutrient dense diet not substitute for one.

This is a very important concept.If you are drinking a supplemental drink and then are too full to eat a good meal it is not good.
The young man needs to understand that he needs to drink the supplemental drink after a good workout, and still eat three meals a day plus snacks.It is a supplement to an already good diet.
You will not see added muscle if you drink a supplement and then skimp on the good meals, plus snacks.Sometimes they will not be overly hungry when supplementing,but they need to eat.We have found that with a fast metabolism you need to eat several times a day and as you do this it actually stimulates more of a health appetite.

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Originally posted by fanofgame:
Please dont take this as an argument , but muscle milk has creatine? Just curious as I didnt think it did.I know it used to but though they removed it.

They may have-I keep a ton of it in the house and when I buy it I buy it in bulk. So if they did maybe what I have sitting around was produced after. Let me google.

Edit-I couldn't find anything.

Let me check my tubs when I get home.

Edit #2 You are right. I still have some tubs that have 07 dates on them and no creatine.

Thanks for getting back to me on that.About a year or so ago I called muscle milk company , becasue someone told me it had a precursor to steroids in it.There was something in it that helped the body to produce more testosterone,(some type of pre cursor for the body to produce more testosterone)I can not recall what it was.It also had colostrum in it, which can elevate your IGF1 growth factor giving you a false positive on your tests.They removed both of these products and revamped their product.This is what was told to me.
The collegiate one is approved by the NCAA, so it is a good supplement if you dont want to worry about bad stuff being in there.

Optimum Nutrition pro complex or pro complex lean gainer are best. make sure you get carbs too after work outs.

Muscle milk is not good alone after workouts because it has no carbs

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Optimum Nutrition pro complex or pro complex lean gainer are best

Been using that product for a long time it is a good one.

The advantage of muscle milk is that it is a slow digesting protein. So if you take it right bed before it could take yourdy bo 4-6 hours to digest it all and will keep your body in an anabolic state while you are sleeping. It's also supposed to be like a synthetic breast milk and helps you to develope muslce better than regular protein.

Muscle Milk use to contain colostrum(which is what is presnet in breast milk)But becasue of colostrum causing an Increse in the IGF1 growth factors, Muscle Milk removed colostrm from their product.
Just what the Muscle Milk rep. told me.Just thought I would pass it on.

Well so now they are using a synthetic version I believe. If not, then this was removed quite recently because I got my information from a representative in the Phillies organziation back in march. It's his job to inform the players what's in each product and what could potentially cause you to test positive for PED's.

Not trying to argue with you.Thats is what a rep told me from the company.It is a discussion.

yea I wasn't trying to argue either. I was just wondering if this was a recent change they made to muscle milk.

I just looked at the ingredients and it says nothing about colostrum. So they most likely removed it from muscle milk. But if you go to the cytosport website, it says that muscle milk has been designed to be like a mothers breast milk. So it may no longer contain colostrum, but it's still based and designed to mimic the effects of breast milk and may still contain ingredients that are found in it.

Yeah I understand.I think the site is misleading.Originally when I was looking into it for my son, I was told that it had colostrum and another ingredient that was a precursor to Testosterone production.I was told this by a trainer.So I called.Now the girl that worked there told me that The NFL had some players that were testing high on their IGF1 levels, which again is associated with growth hormone.So they removed both the colostrum and the other per NFL request.
Now this could be a story from her,But I am going to call them, just because I think it is good to know.The collegiate muscly milk is NCAA approved .
They very well may have something else that makes the product more like mothers milk.The main thing is it is supposed to be a great product and many college players use it.Thansk for the response and I will get back to you on that.

So does Muscle Milk have creatine in it?

http://www.vitacost.com/Featur...s-Facts-and-Claims-1

I use the stuff to the right of the page (choclate to be exact.)

Do I need to do anything after I drink it like drink so much water or etc?

Not quite sure what nutrients are in Muscle Milk but I don't buy in to the protein supplements or anything. I just make my own protein shake with milk, peanut butter, and bananas then just blend it up. I add bananas so the peanut butter isn't a over powering and bananas help with muscle cramps. Forgot to mention I drink it after I work out it's not a pre-workout type of drink.

Jimmy, try adding some oatmeal to that, need more carbs. also, theres nothing wrong with adding some whey to that

I realy dont think it tastes good. I didnt even finish mine.

Chances are the protein quality wont be that good.

Collegiate Muscle Milk might be endorsed by NCAA? If so I highly doubt you will have any chance of them "spiking" their product which is good.

Make some of your own protein shakes. Include,
-fruit (berries, bananas, etc.)
-Oats
-Honey
-1-2 scoops of protein powder
-Organic Yogurt

You will be surprised how sweet it is. If not enough, add more honey or stevia. Use organic sugar as last option.

Muscle milk isnt horrible for beginners as a post workout as long as you add carbs, but there are much better options.

Home made shakes=awesome

Also stay away from ready to drink shakes and get solid protein powder.