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NCAA Violations DIII

P playerep3434Member
Are these violations? I am new so I need some help.

#1. Can 4 athletes transfer from a 2 year NJCAA DIII College to a NCAA DIII College and immediately practice and then play a full season. The athletes were not enrolled at the College until 1 month prior to the baseball season and played 2 seasons for a NJCAA DIII College just prior to the transfer. I didn't think the athletes would be elgible for competition under NCAA guidelines. They would need 1 full year of residence at that College.

#2. When the NCAA states an athlete has 5 years to complete 4 years in a sport in Division III does that mean an athlete can take a year off from one sport and play another. Here is the example I have. An athlete played 2 seasons of football in 2000 and 2001 and then played 4 seasons of baseball 2001, 2003, 2004, 2005. The athlete didn't play baseball in 2002 but played sports for 5 years in Division III is this allowed. I would have thought the athlete used all elgibility and should not have been allowed to play baseball in 2005.

I have more examples but want to start with these two for starters. There is no "redshirt" for Division III and if example 2 is legal then that would be 5 years of elgibility to play College sports.

If example 1 is legal then couldn't athletes just play baseball for a few months at a Division III College and leave. This is a true story.
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TRhitTRhit10,000+ posts
In example number one did the players in question complete two academic years at the JUCO with the sufficient number of credits?

If they did so in accordance with NCAA rules then they need not sit out. They are simple moving from a two year school to a 4 year school to make their Associate Degree a 4 year degree
P playerep3434Member
All four participated in baseball for consecutive 2 years at a JUCO in DIII. None of the four would meet the basic criteria as they were part time students at their new NCAA DIII College and enrolled within days of the baseball season. Practiced and played baseball right away. If all 4 were academically eligible then why wouldn't they begin the season at the DIII College. They completed their 2 years at the JUCO and did not attend any College in the Fall and suddenly in the spring 4 new players are not only on campus and in their new dorm room but in the starting line-up.
P playerep3434Member
I am going to report this program to the NCAA. The telephone number we have for the NCAA is 317-917-6222 and we want to make sure we have the correct information. The NCAA can investigate and make their own decision. Two hundred members have viewed my questions and only a few replied. I thank those who took the time and would like to have more opinions.
CADadCADad5,000+ posts
#1 seems to be OK.

#2 looks to be clearly a violation to me, but you need to check with the NCAA. My understanding of the rule is that a player has 5 years in which to play 4 years in a sport beginning with the first year that they enroll full time. It is possible the player got a waiver for 2002 and then played 4 years of baseball in the five years 2000 to 2005 less 2002. I don't know what impact playing multiple sports has.

It is very possible that everything is on the up and up. I wouldn't recommend reporting the program until after you've had a chance to go over the rules with the NCAA.
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A AParent1,000+ posts
playerep3434

If you are merely curious then this thread has value. If you really need an answer then you have come to the wrong place.

The reason 200 people have viewed this and only a few replies is that none none of us here are experts when it comes to NCAA.

Our opinion on this matter means nothing. Only the NCAA can tell you what is or is not within the rules.

If you are asking to see if you can do it - BeenthereIL has the best advise you can get - contact the NCAA directly, and get their reply in writing. It isn't worth risking your eligibility.

If you want to know because others already have you will still need to know directly from them.

Good luck.
HeyBatterHeyBatter1,000+ posts
I would also note that a change has been made in redshirting rules at the D-3 level that went into effect last year I think. I also believe that if you were in school prior to the rule change that you are "grandfathered" under the old rule.

Presently, I believe you can redshirt for a year only if there was a medical reason and otherwise there is NO redshirting at the D-3 level (for those that enrolled after this rule change) But as posts above have stated, check with the NCAA (presuming you can get through to anyone with a straight answer Wink)
P playerep3434Member
This is an actual event and my team lost to a pitcher who began his College career in 2000 and was still pitching in 2005. He played 5 years of sports and we printed 5 years of NCAA Box Scores to prove it.

The 4 JUCO players I wouldn't call transfers since they went to a 2 year JUCO and they choose to enroll this spring to avoid class/practice/tuition/dorm fees etc and should have enrolled in the fall like everyone else. When a coach cuts a player from a team and tells the player your cut because of grades and 4 JUCO players walk on off the street and play that is wrong. The 4 JUCO were on the same team as the 5 year pitcher. They beat our team and we knew this was a coach that proved winning is everything to him and he'll sell his soul in the process.
Florida Baseball GuyFlorida Baseball Guy500+ posts
In looking at this I think all of the players on the other team are legal.

#1 - He can use five years to play four.

#2 - Here is what those JUCOs did. They played two years of JUCO ball and graduated. To save money they did not enroll (or were part time) in the first semester. Then they showed up and played second semester. This is legal as long as they were enrolled the entire second semester.

To me you have no beef, but like all the other posters I'd suggest you check with the NCAA. It sounds to me like you lost and are grabbing at straws. Good luck.

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