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Wonder if a redshirt sophomore (currently draft eligible) with 2 more years of NCAA eligibility that is being hold back  his full potential to play more innings because coaches hope to play him for another 2 years (senior plus grad school) vs being drafted? How coaches promote players to the MLB scouts? Or do they?

Does this affect on how scouts may be looking at his potential as a possible  draftee?


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I love this site and and gotten all sorts of great information.  That said, I think you will not get very "accurate" answers as our question is probably just too situational.  You may get some ideas, but it could almost be like stirring the pot.  Probably the best thing to do is for this kid to do some asking around and try to understand the landscape.  Have others been drafted out of the program?  Does the program have an actual pro day?  

The more important questions might be whether this kid has received any contact from scouts.  There are all sorts of threads on here about how scouts contact players including the very early contacts where they are simply gaining some basic data of kids they think might be draft material.  The coach may very well be sitting on his hands and maybe hoping the kid does not get scooped up - but it is certainly not his responsibility to push out info (although most would expect him to respond to inquiries).  May want to rephrase question as to what contact should be expected at this point to think that he might get a) included in the big pool (something like a draft #) and b) realistic to be picked.  

Lots of folks will also tell you that there is significant value to staying in school, especially compared to sneaking into the draft in round 30-40.  If the kid were a potential 10-20 round pick, he probably would have already communicated with several scouts.

Yes usually 5-8 draftees every year. And yes they had a scout day back in the fall of 17.

He has few requests. In our case, he can graduate in the fall18 (only needs 4 more credits). BUT ... he has 2 more years to play...

I will think that coaches will take advantage of it by not promoting him to the scouts.

Another question is how scouts are getting players email address/phone? I believe through coaches..Just trying to understand how it all is very nerve breaking not knowing or knowing not enough.

In our case he is not #1 round pick but has frame and skills. It is easier for first round draftees just because they have more info...

Any knowledge in regards to this greatly appreciated..

Mom of P

Every situation is unique. But coaches like their players to go to the next level. It’s good PR for recruiting. 

84% of American MLBers come from the first ten rounds. Another 10% come from rounds 11-20. Everyone else is mostly likely to be Single A roster filler for a couple of years. Pitchers drafted later have a better shot than position players. Velocity is an easy measurable. 

It’s  important to figure out where you fit versus staying in school, enjoying college ball for a couple more years and automatic acceptance to grad school. 

It has nothing to do with coaches wanting him to go, but rather teams wanting to draft him.

At this point he sounds like if drafted he would be a late round sign, which means a small bonus. I say this as you have not mentioned anything about his skills. 

If your son has eligibility left more than likely it would serve him best to remain where he is and take some post grad classes.

At this point why not just sit back and enjoy whats left of the season.

Best of luck to your son.

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Not trying to start an argument and don't mean to sound harsh,  but unless your son's team is winning 85% of their games and in first place in their league, I really doubt a coach is "holding him back" with regard to innings in order to keep him around.  Coaches want to win....and that means playing the kids that give them the best chance to win.  Again, if he's on a Top 10 team...and they are doing fine without him, I could see it, but the team is  anything less than that, I really doubt that his lack of playing time is about holding him back to keep him around another year. 

Here's a little more food for thought...

Take a look back at the last 5 or so years that had players drafted from his school...Where are they now...5 yrs later?

Just because they "get drafted" doesn't mean they have what it takes to progress level to level or, more importantly, that they still have what a particular team NEEDS at the moment...Remember, most of these kids are fillers for a teams high $$ investment players...the "prospects"... 

Unless players are making marked improvement season after season, either they are released (done, finis, kaputs, adios amigos) or DFA'd (designated for assignment) or (if good enough) used as trade bait..

Does your son want to go pro? Is he "burning it up, currently? Scouts will take notice...And, no, Coaches don't typically promote a player for the draft...nor do they hold a player back...A Coach is primarily interested in winning "this game, this series, this playoff, etc"....Pretty much the same attitude as the pros! Who can/will get me to the Playoffs & beyond...

His performance gets him noticed...His performance "creates his opportunities"...

There are 30 MLB clubs which employ area scouts who have a single job: identify players - in their area -who have at least one single MLB potential tool and sell that player to his organization. A scout who doesn't identify the talent in his area will not be employed long (and to extend the area scout's reach, the scout will develop a network of coaches [travel, HS, CC and college] and associate scouts who scour the area looking, looking, looking). (And scouts get a little bit of extra money for every kid in the area signed by the team; gets a little bit of money each time the kid is promoted; and a little more more if the kid goes all they way.)

A coach is able to recuit - in part - because he is able to develop his players to reach the next level. He sells new recruits on the idea that if they attend his program, the pros are waiting. (It is debatable whether most coaches really know how to develop, but that is for another thread.)

If word got out that a player was being "hidden" to the player's career detriment, that coach would not be long in his job; he just couldn't successfully recruit.

I know kids who have been drafted (in single digit rounds) who were total college busts - but somehow were seen, evaluated at the local and national level, and got drafted. I have known kids who were perpetually injured who got drafted; I've known kids who were known to need TJ get drafted. I've known kids who had a single season of good summer ball get signed right out of summer ball. While surely there is a kid here and there who is missed, the entire baseball systems' incentives are aligned to find players with at least one potential MLB tool.

Now, I have also seen kids who, for example, have starting pitcher stuff be turned into closers and thereby not be scouted as starters in college. But I have seen those same kids have lots of innings available for summer ball - where they are starters and are scouted as such.

They system finds virtually every kid who is evaluated by a scout as having a potential MLB tool. On the other hand, with 95% not making it all the way, it's really good to have a plan B - whether playing days end in college or MILB.




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