Need help on the outside pitch

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Originally posted by micmeister:

The more movement you have in your swing, the harder it is to have good timing on ALL pitches. This hitter at the moment and even before this problem came up, could only hit in one direction (inside or outside). Again, if I saw his swing in person or I video taped it, I may see something else that might catch my eye and change that first. Hank Aaron had over 12,000 at bats and that is the only reason he is the all time home run leader. I think if he played today he would be at best a .200 hitter unless he changed his style. That's just my opinion. I have an opinion and you have an opinion. I would much rather take what a hitter has and incorporate Ted Williams' style into it than Hank Aaron's. If Ted Williams had the same number of at bats as Hank Aaron, HE would be the all time leader in Home Runs and hits. I'd rather take the best swing as a pattern than just a better than average one. If you gave Hank Aaron 7700 at bats like Williams had, he wouldn't be on any all time leaders list. That's not an opinion, it's a fact!

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Originally posted by Chameleon:
The pitch he pulled was a change up. Another benefit of this barrel action is adjusting to off speed.

The barrel action shown by the professional player is perfect for adjusting in and out.

It's a running start of the barrel that can hit the outside pitch without coming around the ball, yet can be altered on the fly for the inside pitch.

The lead elbow must be down initially. The rear elbow must be driven to the slot. The handle must be torqued, not pulled, at "go".

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Originally posted by wogdoggy:
Originally posted by micmeister:
The more movement you have in your swing, the harder it is to have good timing on ALL pitches.



BULL snot..try being a dead hands hitter and get the outside pitch..let me know how you do.

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Hank Aaron had over 12,000 at bats and that is the only reason he is the all time home run leader. I think if he played today he would be at best a .200 hitter unless he changed his style.

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Originally posted by ncball:
I wouldn't say it's ideal. Listen, some MLB players are physical freaks and they can get away with things in their swing that would not be considered sound. For me, that is way too much movement for a regular hitter. For that guy, he is physically gifted and can get away with it.

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Originally posted by deemax:
mic

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Hank Aaron had over 12,000 at bats and that is the only reason he is the all time home run leader. I think if he played today he would be at best a .200 hitter unless he changed his style.

The hall of fame is loaded with hitters who had lots of movement, and oh yeah... the above quote is embarassing.

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Originally posted by Chameleon:

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Originally posted by micmeister:
The more movement you have in your swing, the harder it is to have good timing on ALL pitches.

Sorry mic....I read no further.

This is pure hogwash.

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Originally posted by wrstdude:

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Originally posted by micmeister:

The more movement you have in your swing, the harder it is to have good timing on ALL pitches. This hitter at the moment and even before this problem came up, could only hit in one direction (inside or outside). Again, if I saw his swing in person or I video taped it, I may see something else that might catch my eye and change that first. Hank Aaron had over 12,000 at bats and that is the only reason he is the all time home run leader. I think if he played today he would be at best a .200 hitter unless he changed his style. That's just my opinion. I have an opinion and you have an opinion. I would much rather take what a hitter has and incorporate Ted Williams' style into it than Hank Aaron's. If Ted Williams had the same number of at bats as Hank Aaron, HE would be the all time leader in Home Runs and hits. I'd rather take the best swing as a pattern than just a better than average one. If you gave Hank Aaron 7700 at bats like Williams had, he wouldn't be on any all time leaders list. That's not an opinion, it's a fact!

So you're saying this movement is bad?

I wouldn't teach it! Would you???

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Look, I know I don't have all of the answers, but I know when someone argues a point like this, they are only trying to be a smart a**.

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Originally posted by micmeister:
I wouldn't teach it! Would you???

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Of course I would teach it.

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Originally posted by Chameleon:
mic

You are completely out of your league. Movement is critical to timing.

Doesn't matter how many times you say that "it is not even arguable", you clearly haven't done your homework.

A hitter has to get to the launch position in such a way so as to have momentum to generate a good swing. And, he has to be able to swing ON DEMAND. In other words, he has to be able to have this momentum and be able to store it (for a fraction of a second) or use it depending on the pitch speed and location.

This is the running start of the high level swing. The barrel and/or the lower body must be in motion way before launch. And this movement has to be accomplished so that there is a distinct difference between "start" and "go" and it must be done in such a way that "go" can be on demand.....at any given instance.

If you really think you can accomplish this without a fairly significant amount of movement you are mistaken.

This means a hitter has to have his own rhythmic preswing move that leads to a sudden actual swing. And that this preswing move has to be timed to a pitch that may vary in speed by 20-25 mph. Not to mention all the location possiblities.

This simply can not be accomplished without significant movement.

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Originally posted by BlueDog:

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Of course I would teach it.

So would I, in a heartbeat!!

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Originally posted by deemax:

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Look, I know I don't have all of the answers, but I know when someone argues a point like this, they are only trying to be a smart a**.

Ignoring what the greats do is ignorant. There is nothing "smart a**" about it. Im sorry your not capable of comprehending how silly you sound when you preach against the greats.

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Originally posted by micmeister:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Chameleon:
Movement is critical to timing.


A hitter has to get to the launch position in such a way so as to have momentum to generate a good swing.


I never said no movement. What I said was the more movement there is, the more chance of having timing problems.