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New college bats...great story!

F funneldrill1,000+ posts
So I'm talking to an Assistant at a Big 12 school the other day. We start talking about the new bats they are using this year and he shares this with me.

Usually we hit about 40-50 balls out of the park during a normal round of team batting practice with the old bats. With the new bats we hit 3-5 out!!! When the wind is blowing out we might approach 10!!! So we've recruited all these 6'4 kids to hit home runs and now they can't!

He thinks that wood bats have more pop. So, beginning in 2012, high schools will be using these bats. So now, all you parents are going to have to spend $200-$300 for a bat that has zero pop!

Lets just go back to wood bats...please!!! At least the composite wood!!!
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Old School79Old School791,000+ posts
quote:
Originally posted by Papa Smurf:
The conference my son is playing in will use these bats in the spring of 2011 and he thinks wood has more pop as well. They've even told the players that the can't use wood, even if they prefer.



Jeez, you have got to be kidding,,,,,,,,,,, What would be the reasoning, for not using wood, instead?
V Vanlandingham100+ posts
Awwwww!!! You mean the coaches are going to have to teach bunting and the hit and run again. They are now going to have to focus on defense and find ways to manufacture runs. No more whiffle ball? What a shame.

In all seriousness, this could be great for College Baseball. People don't enjoy watching 4 hour 16-10 baseball games. That's why TV success has been spotty at best until the Regionals.

I think wood would be great, but its still viewed as too costly as it was when this debate started in the late '80's.
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I iluvgoodbaseball10+ posts
Real hitters will still hit. Doesn't matter what they swing. The homerun totals may be down and averages may drop some with these hitters but that could be a good thing. A marginal hitter will probably struggle more but as Vanlandingham says maybe this type of hitter can do other things to help his team push runs across the plate.

This might actually be ok for the D1 college game. If the bats don't improve however by this time next year, I think the highschool game will be worse for the change.
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Out in LFOut in LF500+ posts
There are only two that will benefit from the outcome of the new rules regarding the BESR switch to BBCOR bats:
1) The pitchers, both with better pitching numbers and more importantly the safety aspect for them.
2) The bat companies.....they loose nothing gain bat sales due to every HS player needing to re-up and purchase a BBCOR bat to replace their existing $400 BESR bat for 2012.

I'm all for making the game safer for the boys on the mound and taming down the inflated hitting stats that some boys have, but they should at least make it a choice if they can use either the wood or new BBCOR bats. IMO.
BB Bobby Boucher10+ posts
Does anyone know if this new rule impacts all metal/aluminum bats, or is it geared solely at the composite bats? I did some research in the past about the BESR ratings and understand how some of the composite bats were under the BESR standard (ie. the exit speed of the batted ball was in compliance ) when the bat was bought off the shelf, but once the composite fibers were broken in after a few hundred hits, the exit speed was higher by 3-4 mph, thus making the bat out of standard for BESR. I assume the new regs make the bat manfacturers lower the exit speed somewhat to improve safety. But is this really only an issue with the composites? Never really liked them anyway, preferred the feel of aluminum (even the stupid ping), but I must confess to not knowing how broad the new standard is (ie. whether changes to be made to all aluminum bats, as well as composites). Any clarification is appreciated.
Out in LFOut in LF500+ posts
quote:
Originally posted by Bobby Boucher:
Does anyone know if this new rule impacts all metal/aluminum bats, or is it geared solely at the composite bats? I did some research in the past about the BESR ratings and understand how some of the composite bats were under the BESR standard (ie. the exit speed of the batted ball was in compliance ) when the bat was bought off the shelf, but once the composite fibers were broken in after a few hundred hits, the exit speed was higher by 3-4 mph, thus making the bat out of standard for BESR. I assume the new regs make the bat manfacturers lower the exit speed somewhat to improve safety. But is this really only an issue with the composites? Never really liked them anyway, preferred the feel of aluminum (even the stupid ping), but I must confess to not knowing how broad the new standard is (ie. whether changes to be made to all aluminum bats, as well as composites). Any clarification is appreciated.


Here you go Bobby.
The NFHS has banned hollow composite bats unless they remain BESR-compliant after undergoing the Accelerated Break-In (ABI) protocol. The ABI is intended to confirm that as such bats break-in, their performance does not improve beyond the BESR ball exit speed limit. For the 2010-2011 academic school year, and through December 31, 2011, the following types of bats are legal:
1. Any aluminum BESR bat (listed as category A on the UMLBRC site), 2. Any aluminum barrel BESR bat (listed as category A on the UMLBRC site), 3. Any non-hollow (filled core) composite BESR bat (listed as category D on the UMLBRC site), 4. Certain approved hollow composite BESR baseball bats (found on the NFHS website at
http://www.nfhs.org/content.aspx?id=4155), 5. Any solid (one piece) wood or wood laminate bat (listed as category B on the UMLBRC site), 6. Any aluminum or composite BBCOR bat (anticipated delivery date to retail stores and online
outlets late fall/early winter).
BB Bobby Boucher10+ posts
Thanks LF. Good info, I found out more at the nfhs website (and the link to the UMLBRC site -- below).
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The UMLBRC list is located at http://m-5.eng.uml.edu/umlbrc/ncaa_certified_bats.asp. For bats that meet NFHS high school playing rules until December 31, 2011, go to the “League Approval” drop-down list (located at the bottom of the page) and select “NCAA 2010 Season”. For bats that meet NFHS high school playing rules on and after January 1, 2012, go to the “League Approval” drop-down list and select “NCAA 2011+ Seasons”. The UMLBRC is responsible for updating and maintaining the list. Other leagues or rules organizations may not require the ABI process or adopt the NFHS position on banning hollow composite bats.
M Maverick0714500+ posts
quote:
Originally posted by Vanlandingham:
Awwwww!!! You mean the coaches are going to have to teach bunting and the hit and run again. They are now going to have to focus on defense and find ways to manufacture runs. No more whiffle ball? What a shame.

In all seriousness, this could be great for College Baseball. People don't enjoy watching 4 hour 16-10 baseball games. That's why TV success has been spotty at best until the Regionals.

I think wood would be great, but its still viewed as too costly as it was when this debate started in the late '80's.


LV... glad to see you are still alive... lol...
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