Anyone understand why this new rule was implemented, both heals on the rubber, no hybrid stance ?
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bacdorslider posted:Anyone understand why this new rule was implemented, both heals on the rubber, no hybrid stance ?
There is no requirement to have both heels on the rubber.
The hybrid stance has been banned for at least five years.
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I believe the modified stance has been illegal but I could wrong.
I did hear TSSAA has made a point of enforcing it this year.
That imaginary line is what dictates a legal windup position. The pivot foot has to be in contact with the rubber and the non-pivot foot has to be on or behind a line even with the front of the rubber (but not necessarily in contact with it.)
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bacdorslider posted:Any idea why? I noticed 70 percent of pitchers do this
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Why they banned the hybrid (which generally consists of acting as if in a set position with windup footing, or vice versa?) Because it gives a couple of advantages to the pitcher not intended by rule, particularly with R3 and LHP or R1 and RHP: 1) it makes it hard to determine if a step to the side is a step to a base or the start of a windup and runners were delayed on their secondary leads, and 2) it is illegal to pick off from the windup in FED, so throwing to a base was causing a lot of issues if the pitcher was using the position as both a windup and a set.
So if there are no runners on base theres no advantage to the pitcher. And if there are runners on then the pitcher would probably be in the stretch thanks for the explanation
bacdorslider posted:So if there are no runners on base theres no advantage to the pitcher. And if there are runners on then the pitcher would probably be in the stretch thanks for the explanation
Probably. Not always. The disparity in talent within HS is huge--I don't do many HS games (at most, 18-20 a year,) but I almost always have at least one balk a season because a pitcher wasn't thinking and started from the windup in what would be a set situation. They realize it too late and do something illegal.
We have had pitchers called for illegal pitch the last three games, because both feet were not on the rubber. At least that is what the umpires told them.
baseballhs posted:We have had pitchers called for illegal pitch the last three games, because both feet were not on the rubber. At least that is what the umpires told them.
Ugh. And then when your coach calls it out on the opponent the next game, the umpires will look at him as if he's got a third eye.
So even though there are no runners on base, not having your heals in contact with the rubber or the imaginary line extending from the rubber is now an illegal pitch. Johnny Cueto might have a problem with this rule...
So the player in this picture has the incorrect stance?
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HS baseball, gotta love it.......
We were warned a few times last year in Missouri and called for it once with no runners on base. I think you throw the rule out with no one on base because there is no advantage. I fully understand calling it with runners on base. The answer is to tell your pitchers not to let anyone get to third then there is no discussion about it. My argument with no one on base is that there is no advantage gained which is the intent of the rule.
So no one on base, a RHP only has to be concerned with a runner at 3rd? Stay in the stretch... then there's no issue.
This rule is a point of emphasis here in Wisconsin this year, and there were several questions on the test about it. Why the emphasis this year? No explanation given...
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bacdorslider posted:So even though there are no runners on base, not having your heals in contact with the rubber or the imaginary line extending from the rubber is now an illegal pitch. Johnny Cueto might have a problem with this rule...
So the player in this picture has the incorrect stance?
If that's his windup, yes. If that's where he comes set from the stretch, no.
So far I've seen pitchers given warnings but no immediate enforcement. They're not enforcing the mandatory throat protector for catchers too. We have them but sometimes they fall off quickly. Going to try velcro next time.
Kid got called on it a few years ago. HS was the only place he couldn't use it. But only one umpire all season called it. There you go.
What I love is the emphasis on stopping National Anthem show downs. Really?