no-stride

One advantage is it keeps you from over-striding.

Ben

The no stride may work for guys in the bigs but I dont like it for young players--- I see the stride as part of the system that creates power---no stride to me is almost hitting flatfooted

Once the heel of the front foot touches the ground, you should be in the same position regardless whether a stride was used or not.

Ben, we teach no-stride. We seem to have several players that can generate a lot of power. I believe in that system to the point that I have my own child hitting that way. The results have been a high average and above average power. We have a dozen posters that can and will post why they think various systems work. The key then is to get your swing to the point that you hit the ball with your body and not your arms or unconnected parts of your body. I've found that we can be "on time", be compact, and have to ability to recognize spin doing what we do. JMHO!

CoachB25, you will always be successful....Less hands and arms and more connection will always work.....

Would you stop a player that has a stride like A-Rod. Would he be better without it? Almost every coach my kid ever had wanted to change him and get less stride. However, he hits frequently and long. Would you change him? Here is the menu
1. No stride
2. Almost no stride. Turn the knee in, hit.
3. Leg kick and go
4. Traditional 4-7" stride, leg low to ground
5. Negative stride (Bagwell)

Would you change all hitters to no stride?

I don't post often because my baseball knowledge is lacking. However, my son, has struggled since the beginning of the HS season. With CoachB's assistance he has eliminated the stride and has been been hitting with more confidence. A widse man once said "good one less thing to worry about" (Forrest Gump). Get the heel down and hit the ball. Simplifies things. This may not be necessary for all hitters, but is working for mine.

My son also uses the "No Stride" approach thanks to his hitting instructor. He eliminated all the unnecessary forward movement prior to the swing. Now he stays back, reads the pitch longer, rarely strikes out and still hits with enough power.

There are different approaches for different hitters.
I had the pleasure of watching a 5'8" 150 lb guy driving 400 footers into the stands a few years back. He used no stride, but a system of hinges, hips, shoulder, knee and ankle. He coiled and loaded very efficiently and exploded toward the ball, Quick hips, shoulders closed hands inside the ball, nice extension follow thru, head always right on the ball. I asked this 50 something guy to give me some advice for my high school players. He was happy to, came to the school and worked with us, then hired me as an instructor. His name is Denny Doyle. A great man who cares about kids and loves teaching. He had a nice 11 yr career and could always hit for a little guy.
I know all of the Pujols fans will say he wasn't a great hitter, but I for one know that to put on the uniform in the show, you Have to be a great hitter, actually 1 of the top 7-800 in the country.
I do not change hitters to a no-stride approach unless a kid is young and has too much movement with his stride foot, too long a stride or too much head movement due to his stride.
It can work well when a players grasps it, and the stride can work just as well.
Ths approach gave me a new appreciation toward hitting and allows me to be flexible as an instructor.

BBPapa, I didn't read anyone saying that all hitters must be no-stride. Some hitters have traditionally had an incredibly high leg kick that I don't like. They were getting paid to play. It worked for them. We instruct, we adjust, we try to improve and sometimes we change, but only when a hitter comes looking for those things and seeks improvement.

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I for one know that to put on the uniform in the show, you Have to be a great hitter, actually 1 of the top 7-800 in the country.

Coachric,

I like what you have to say. If I may, a bit of a correction in the above statement. Should read... actually 1 of less than 400 (rest are pitchers) in the World

For the most part I believe the above to be correct at any given time other than a few in foriegn countries and a few on there way up to the Big Leagues.

Not many Albert Pujols, but not that many Denny Doyles either if you think about it. 11 years does not happen by accident!

You are absolutely right PG, probably 1 of 400 or so. I really appreciate guys like Doyle who give back in some way or another and guys like those of the PG staff that afford hope and opportunity.

No stride hitting is probably the most predominant system being taught today. It is one reason power numbers are down. I like it for Pujols and some others, but most kids and even grown players are not beasts. I still maintain the following.

(1) Look for simple (no stride, little hand movement, etc.) that can hit at least 33% of all hits for extra bases.
(2) Look for players who can hit in three-dimensional space with movement at least 33% extra base hits to total hits.
(3) Look for speed that can hit the ball down and get to first any way they can.

Most players should not be taught no stride.

baseballpapa, I'm glad you believe in what you belive in. Of course I don't agree. I believe in our system and it has worked. Our power numbers are extremely good for a high school team. Of course, you might argue that those doubles and triples would be HRs if they were to stride. Each to their own. Regarding your question about changing hitters. I don't ever change a hitter until I've watched them and allowed them to either have success or failure doing what they do. Then, I step in. Personally for me, I believe so much in what we do that I'd never do anthing differently.

Bluedog, I don't understand why anyone would want to hit any other way. As you well know, hitting a ball with your body is much more efficient than just using arms or "extenstion" or... Side note, we coach my girl's softball team in the same manner. One of our girls today hit a major bomb out of the park doing what we teach. Again, it's about being on time and using your body. JMHO!

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Of course, you might argue that those doubles and triples would be HRs if.......

I see coaches argue this and I consider them to be complete fools......

BD

Is that because they argue and disagree with you?

I have seen coaches ruin a player's season with this stupid tactic....More than once....

Far too many coaches overcoach because they don't know any better.....

baseballpapa-

there is no correlation between the "no-stride" approach and having to be a beast.... and the "no-stride" approach and power numbers being down... (what power numbers??? [whose?])

otherwise there would prob need to be a relationship between length of stride and power... which is absurd.

Diablo,

Are you saying a player who uses a stride would hit as fast (hard) if they did not stride? Would A-Rod and Griffey do better to not stride? How about Will Clark?