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K KellerDad1,000+ posts
Somebody needs to call Imigration on his butt.


http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/279243p-239228c.html



Danny Almonte's father is pulling him from the Bronx and taking his million-dollar arm to Florida - with hopes that playing ball year-round will help get the teen to the big leagues, the Daily News has learned.
"I have to go," said the 17-year-old Dominican phenom, who rose to national fame - then infamy - as an overaged ringer in the 2001 Little League World Series. "It's my dad."

Last night, Danny and his father, Felipe, went to the Bronx home of Rolando Paulino - where the teen had lived since 2001 - to gather his belongings, including the city championship ring he won last year as a star pitcher at Monroe High School.

"I'll never forget this," Danny said, his hands shaking as he slipped on the ring and packed a frayed Daily News article about his baseball exploits.

The flame-throwing lefty will join a team at Hialeah American Senior High School that includes several former teammates from the disgraced 2001 Rolando Paulino All-Stars.

One of the team's coaches is Alberto Gonzalez, who managed the 2001 All-Stars but was banned from Little League after Danny was found to be 14 - not 12.

"The school is all the same," said Felipe Almonte, who falsified his son's birth certificate and kept him out of classes in 2001. "It's not important."

But the teen's abrupt departure took Paulino and Monroe coaches by surprise.

After meeting with school officials yesterday morning, Paulino reluctantly turned the 11th-grader over to his father, who lives in the Dominican Republic.

"There was always going to come a time when he came to get his son," Paulino said. "But it's not right that it happened this way."

Paulino said Felipe Almonte sent a man to pick up his son - unannounced - from baseball practice Saturday at Monroe.

But Paulino refused to turn him over until the boy's father showed up in person yesterday at Monroe.

"Danny would have a better life here," said Paulino, who was also barred from Little League after the ringer scandal. "He knows the city, he is a part of my family and he's not lacking for anything."

Danny made it big as a 14-year-old when he illegally dominated kids two years younger than he in the Little League World Series.

His perfect game and his team's third-place finish were wiped from the record books when the lie was uncovered.

Being matched against ballplayers his own age hardly slowed Danny down. Blessed with an overpowering fastball, Danny was dominant last year for Monroe, pitching a one-hitter in the city championship at Shea Stadium.

"We were pushing him in class and teaching him a lot about life," said Monroe coach Mike Turo. "We got him away from all that Little League stuff, and I feel this is going to bring him back to that."

Danny is going to live with Gonzalez in Florida and play baseball year-round. Three former teammates who played on the notorious 2001 team will be on his team at American Senior High School.

Not stopping to even hug Paulino, Danny left behind several trophies in the Bronx housing project.

Asked if he had a message for New Yorkers, Danny said, "Tell them thanks for everything."
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P PiC500+ posts
In comparison to the revelations from Canseco...and only a cursory denial--no lawsuit for defamation from McGuire; Danny Almonte is chump change in cheating.

McGuires record should be expunged immediately...just like LL did with Almonte's records.

I wonder how it is that so many posters have stated that Bonds body looks like he used roids to get his body increased in size so much and have overlooked the changes in Canseco when he was with the A's. But those changes also happened to McGuire, and the other players on the A's.

To pick on a young man like Almonte who was a minor and being "used" by others in a cheating scheme and let Mcguire and others off the hook reeks like the head of a dead fish.
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F Fanatic10+ posts
There was an article this morning in the Miami Herald about this as well. His dad has already been in touch with the high school coach at the school he will attend. Apparently, he has relatives in Miami with whom he will live. THe article states that he intends to go pro after this year's high school season.

There is a lot of negativity on this young man...yes, his dad appears to be a schmuck, but if the boy wants to play pro ball....if that is what he really wants....he may be better off down here. Who knows.
rz1rz15,000+ posts
I was hoping Amonte was going to disappear from the baseball scene and then re-appear as a college great who spoke articulately and was an icon to the Hispanic youth of America.

Now I'm just disappointed that parents who are so ignorant and selfish do not understand that they can make a difference. As far as I'm concerned they should not stop in FL. Is it that hard to figure out that you have the opportunity to give something back?

To top the whole thing off, he will have Boros as an agent.
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Moc1Moc1500+ posts
Quote: " To pick on a young man like Almonte who was a minor and being "used" by others in a cheating scheme and let Mcguire and others off the hook reeks like the head of a dead fish."


Pic-I sometimes agree with you and your ideas but there are times that you are truly-in my opinion-off the deep end.

Please explain, if you can, who are the people that are picking on Almonte, and who are the people that are letting McGuire and others off the hook. Your statement implies that the same people that are supposedly punishing Almonte are also the same people looking the other way
when it comes to steroid use. Do you see how illogical that is?

BTW I don't know of anyone picking on Danny Almonte.
OC Old Cat10+ posts
I have always thought the "Almonte Gang" would never change. Before I get beat over the head, I agree that Danny has been used by all of the key adults involved. However, too often the nut doesn't fall too far from the tree.

Consider this:
1. Felipe Almonte, Rolando Paulino and Alberto Gonzalez all cheated every other LL player to showcase Danny at the LL World Series. The teams they beat to get there never got the chance they deserved.
2. Reading Felipe Almonte's comments makes it pretty apparent that this is an example of a high school (or its agents) recruiting a player. Doesn't Florida's interscholastic league have rules against that?
3. Danny and his father are illegal aliens, known to use forged documents (unless their status changed after cheating the LL'ers). If they are still illegal aliens and the INS knows they are illegal aliens, why are they still here?

From the male influences in his life, Danny has learned that rules may be ignored or they only apply to other people. He has learned the art of using the "victem of the system" and the "race" card to justify his actions and he has learned that the ends justify the means. It's not Danny's fault that he is learning these lessons, but he is learning and he is playing along. Stand by and watch.

Sad.
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P PiC500+ posts
quote:
Originally posted by Moc1:
Quote: " To pick on a young man like Almonte who was a minor and being "used" by others in a cheating scheme and let Mcguire and others off the hook reeks like the head of a dead fish."


Pic-I sometimes agree with you and your ideas but there are times that you are truly-in my opinion-off the deep end.

Please explain, if you can, who are the people that are picking on Almonte, and who are the people that are letting McGuire and others off the hook. Your statement implies that the same people that are supposedly punishing Almonte are also the same people looking the other way
when it comes to steroid use. Do you see how illogical that is?

BTW I don't know of anyone picking on Danny Almonte.


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Danny Almonte is not the issue...for all intents-and-purposes, he remains until this day and in the future, invisible.

He is nothing more than a symbol of contempt. For some a contempt for where he comes from, a contempt for his nationality, and a contempt for the actions which are always associated with those "trouble-makers".
P PiC500+ posts
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Originally posted by Bighit15:
If hye was already practicing with his school team in New York , he may very well be having a problem here in Florida with the fhsaa. I have a feeling that this is not the last we will hear about this.

PiC, I don't have nay idea what you are babbling about. I suggest that you start taking your meds again.

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It's okay, I will take pity on you today and let you prattle on about your superiority.
TRhitTRhit10,000+ posts
CADAD

Trust me --he is the real deal

But I think that this is a long way from over--- the kid pitched Monroe HS to the PSAL title last year at Shea Stadium-- the coach wontlet this go in any easy fashion.


PiC

This has nothing to do with the boys nationality--it is simply a situation-- it has happened with non latinos as well--so get down off that teetering soapbox you are on before you fall off and get hurt--but then if you land on your head it might help you think logically and without prejudice
FutureBack.MomFutureBack.Mom1,000+ posts
quote:
He is nothing more than a symbol of contempt. For some a contempt for where he comes from, a contempt for his nationality, and a contempt for the actions which are always associated with those "trouble-makers".


He broke the rules in Little League ... or more specifically, the adults in his life broke the rules on his behalf. Danny benefited, and based on his quotes in the story, doesn't seem to have a clue that there might be "right" and "wrong' ways to do things.

But PiC ... just because somebody has a negative opinion about what transpired does not mean that he or she is a racist, as your statement implies.

You need to get a different hymnbook to sing from ... the one you are using is getting old and worn out.
Bighit15Bighit155,000+ posts
quote:
He is nothing more than a symbol of contempt. For some a contempt for where he comes from, a contempt for his nationality, and a contempt for the actions which are always associated with those "trouble-makers".

What a ration of bs. Wah wah wah! Woe is me. Play the race card. The kid is a cheater, the parents misused their authority and trust. The kid got used by parents. It is a sick story no matter what the nationality. You make this stuff up as you go along. You ought to change it to Moron as an avatar. You did the same thing yesterday as you ran out of argument you just started being a jerk for being a jerk's sake. Everyone laughs and you say I prattle on. Hah, you are a laughing stock, a nighmare parent, and the biggest rose-colored glasses wearing parent I have seen on this site. I shouldn't respond to you at all, but your need to respond to every post with such negativity is just to amusing to me. It just gets under your skin and you cannot let it go. No matter how wrong you are. Try your meds again. lol
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CADadCADad5,000+ posts
TR,
You say that he's the real deal. I guessed on another thread that he's throwing mid to high 80s now and because he'll already be 18 in less than two months that he projects to have a ML average fastball at best. Just a guess.

He's a lefty and it sounds like he knows how to pitch so he should get a shot. But would you really rate him quite so high if he was doing this as the college freshman he should be now?

I've seen kids do just as well on the HS field and not even get a sniff in the draft and only limited interest from the big schools.

Probably a bit of this is bias on my part since I was rooting for Oceanside that year and the whole LLWS thing ticked me off.

PiC,
Paulino and the rest tried to play the race card back in 2001. That is what was contemptible. You seem to be following blindly in their footsteps.
FrankFFrankF1,000+ posts
There's an article about Almonte in the latest Collegiate Baseball. It was written before him moving to FL. He does sound like the real deal as an overall player. The article stated his fastball is 87 mph. Almost sounded like he would be a better position player than pitcher.

PiC, I have to agree with the others, the race card is getting old. It's got to be tough having to constantly look over your shoulder to wonder who's out to get you or your son next.
Florida Baseball GuyFlorida Baseball Guy500+ posts
I think BigHit15's point on eligibility is going to be a huge issue.

Since New York schools are not allowed to practice until March 1 that won't be the issue. However, Florida schools started practices on Jan. 24th.

A player cannot transfer into a school after practice has started without getting a hardship waiver from the FHSAA committee - even if he moves into the school district. I would think that this newspaper article and Almonte's relationship to the coaches at Hialeah will be brought out during this hearing. The program will have to fight the idea that Almonte was recruited to go to that school and he didn't just happen to end up there accidentily. The relationship with the coaches from Little League and the ensuing scandal could possibly hurt him in the eyes of the committee.

I think it is a huge question whether Almonte will ever play in Florida. Mike Turo still might end up getting him back in time for this season.
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Florida Baseball GuyFlorida Baseball Guy500+ posts
One question for everyone.

If he is 17 and turning 18 as a junior how is he draft eligible? I thought you had to graduate from high school with your class to be draft eligible.

The only thing I can think of is that because he is not a citizen here than the rule doesn't apply. But I still thought that if you are in this country than you have to graduate high school before you could get drafted?

Can someone shed some light on this for me because I'm confused.
CADadCADad5,000+ posts
It looks like being able to play HS ball at 19 may be a reason for moving to Florida this year even if he isn't eligible to play this season. Of course that only holds if wouldn't have been eligible to play during his senior season at Monroe.

Who said he'd be draft eligible? Was that in one of the articles?
Moc1Moc1500+ posts
Pic-You put up my post as well as YOUR quote and totally ignored the question. If Almonte is invisible why did you make reference to him being picked on? I was actually trying to give you a chance to explain yourself and you went off in a totally different direction. noidea


As far as the "flame thrower" reference for a kid that throws 87mph fastballs, there are writers that do get carried away with their descriptions. If that's the case half the HS
baseball fields in Florida have burn marks from the rubber to home plate. Big Grin
P PiC500+ posts
quote:
Originally posted by Bighit15:
quote:
He is nothing more than a symbol of contempt. For some a contempt for where he comes from, a contempt for his nationality, and a contempt for the actions which are always associated with those "trouble-makers".

What a ration of bs. Wah wah wah! Woe is me. Play the race card. The kid is a cheater, the parents misused their authority and trust. The kid got used by parents. It is a sick story no matter what the nationality. You make this stuff up as you go along. You ought to change it to Moron as an avatar. You did the same thing yesterday as you ran out of argument you just started being a jerk for being a jerk's sake. Everyone laughs and you say I prattle on. Hah, you are a laughing stock, a nighmare parent, and the biggest rose-colored glasses wearing parent I have seen on this site. I shouldn't respond to you at all, but your need to respond to every post with such negativity is just to amusing to me. It just gets under your skin and you cannot let it go. No matter how wrong you are. Try your meds again. lol


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If this was a well reasoned out construct I might give it a reasoned grade...but it simply earns an "F".

Dementia is contra-indicated with lucidity, the latter of which you have not. If that's to deep for you let me know.
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P PiC500+ posts
<Bighit15 said Pic-You put up my post as well as YOUR quote and totally ignored the question. If Almonte is invisible why did you make reference to him being picked on? I was actually trying to give you a chance to explain yourself and you went off in a totally different direction.
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I know this is difficult for you when speaking with complex abstractions and using metaphors to obscure the underlying meaning...but it is a necessity out of purpose.

The only persons to be felt sorry for here are the ones that think that the Danny Almonte's of this world don't get their cultural green lights by watching what adults do, and that takes in all stripes of color.

If any were so pure as driven snow there would be no need for churches and religion.

But you actually have many who are arrogant enough to think they are God...and so they feeel free to throw stones.

But remember what the proverb says what goes around, comes around...better duct
denisr400denisr400500+ posts
Pic, you are truly a piece of work. You want McGwire's record expunged? Most people I talk to think he used the roids along with many others. I recall a recent thread regarding Bond's buddy Victor Conte where you jumped all over anyone questioning Bond's before any true evidence or conviction came down. Why is Bond's different from McGwire? You never asked for his records to be expunged. Bonds physical changes make him the poster boy for roids. Remember, McGwire hit 49 as a rookie while still a skinny kid. Bonds never approached those numbers early or midway thru his career. He only exploded after seeing Mac and Sammy go nuts. Showed up next spring training looking like completely different human being.
Bighit15Bighit155,000+ posts
quote:
<Bighit15 said Pic-You put up my post as well as YOUR quote and totally ignored the question. If Almonte is invisible why did you make reference to him being picked on? I was actually trying to give you a chance to explain yourself and you went off in a totally different direction.
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Bighit15 didn't say it Moc1 did. Quick find the meds.

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But you actually have many who are arrogant enough to think they are God...and so they feeel free to throw stones.


Pot and the kettle, my friend.
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B baseballmom
At 14 years old, he knew the difference between "right & wrong"...He is part & parcel to the whole shenanigans of cheating!

Remember "the apple doesn't fall far from the tree."

Has nothing to do with his nationality!
Almonte has NO intergrity or self respect!
Hope Fla. commission can send the whole lot
packing!
Such a disgrace!
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