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When I was in High School I came home from a very tough football practice one night. We had lost Friday night to a team that we were supposed to beat and our coach was very upset about the effort we had given. After practice on Monday he ran us very hard. Well as I was saying I came home that Monday night and was cramping up and sat down on the couch. I looked at my dad and said "Coach Davis ran us to death today". My dad looked at me with a very stern look in his eyes and said "Boy if you cant take it quit. Dont you come home griping to me about what your coach is doing. When I was your age I couldnt play games. I was in the tobacco fields and working crops. If you cant take it quit and go to work but I dont ever want to hear you complaining about your coach again do you understand me son". Needless to say I never said another word about how hard my coachs work me. I can only wonder what some of the responses of the people on this board would be today.
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Well Coach May - We have tried to raise our kids in much the same way. No, we're not sending them to the tobacco fields, but they do know if they quit school, their job, or their baseball team...we WILL find something else for them to do. And it will be twice as hard as what they were doing. At least when they're at an age where we are still responsible for them.

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Coach May, are we brothers? My Dad worked the tobacco fields as well. He dropped out of school in 4th grade to support his family because my Grandfather had a heart attack. I don't think he ever had a toy in his life and I know he still has a hard time reading and writing. As a child, I looked at his bulging veins and I just never could complain about things. He was never the parent that said anything at a game. He sat in his car and watched the games because he was so dirty from work. I can't tell you what those games meant to him. Today, he is in his upper 70's and still has to go to work in a muffler shop. He calls about my team all of the time. I believe he received more pleasure from the state titles I have won than I have. I saw him today. He already knows the team and is ready to follow them. His one piece of excitement each day is whether we won or not. God Bless your Dad. There is a lot to be said for Old School!

"There comes a time when you have to stop dreaming of the man you want to be and start being the man you have become." Bruce Springsteen
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CoachB25 you probaly wont believe this my dad also had to quit in the fourth grade to work the fields for a sharecropper in Henderson NC. When I started coaching he was retired and came to all my games. He was my teams biggest fan. He loved my players it was unreal how much. A couple of years ago he got sick with lung cancer. It was during football season which I also coach. At the time my oldest son was a Freshman starting as nose tackle on the varsity. On his death bed two days before he died he told me "You tell Jake that he better play his butt off Friday". Thank God for the old school dads.
Coach May, I agree with the premise of your statement!! If you knew me you wouldn't believe that I was posting in an "old school subject thread", kind of ironic!! We have similar family situations with our fathers, 3rd grade for mine during the depression, but for the same exact reasons that you stated!!

I just wonder what that Minn Viking wife that lost her husband at a practice because the coaches kept running the player is thinking when she hears statements like, "the coach ran us to death" It probably isn't such a trite "old school" subject to her!!

She would probably rather have her husband "pickin" in the field than six feet under it!!

I guess I am saying that I agree with your statement to a limit!! That limit would be when the practice threatens life or permanently disables someone!! There is a huge difference between "old school" and dangerous!!

Working hard is one thing, being dangerous about it is another!!!
Hey you guys, I am a modern mom, but I believe in "Old School" as well. Our HS coach has always run the team hard after they missed an easy game, but last year some parents decided there was no lessons learned from it, complained and well, you get the jist of the story.
My son's summer coach IS "OLD SCHOOL", very effective.

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