Order of NLI signings

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure they can only "announce" the NLI signings which means athletic aid (not academic nor need-based).

Reports indicate that ABC St has 10 kids that have verballed. They announce first wave of 5 signings on 11/10. Why not have all in the class sign on 11/10 and not in waves? My one thought was not all kids that have verballed are actually getting athletic money and therefor are not "signing".

Could be. Verbals could be anything from recruited walk-on to academic to need-based to athletic aid. Coaches put the puzzle together however they can.

But I do believe only the athletic aid players can be officially announced as they are the only one formally bound to attend that school.

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Originally posted by justbaseball:
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure they can only "announce" the NLI signings which means athletic aid (not academic nor need-based).

Justbaseball - You have it correct. Walk ons and academic aid kids can't be announced until they start practice in the fall. As you have said, only athletic aid recruits can be talked about or announced. As to why they might split up the announcement, maybe in the example you site, 10 recruits, there are just too many players, and the school wants to give them their "moment in the sun."

So only baseball scholarship athletes sign NLI'. Those that are getting grants, academic are considered walk-ons?
If you are then a student walk on, how do you know you will make the team?
Or is it a gamble unless you get an athletic scholarship?

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Originally posted by Momof1B:
So only baseball scholarship athletes sign NLI'. Those that are getting grants, academic are considered walk-ons?
If you are then a student walk on, how do you know you will make the team?
Or is it a gamble unless you get an athletic scholarship?

Coach should tell you whether or not you have a guaranteed roster spot (as a recruited walkon, academic aid or need-based aid). Coaches will use all 4 tools (those 3 plus athletic aid) to build a team...remember they only have 11.7 athletic scholarships to work with.

It shouldn't be a gamble if the coach was upfront and honest with you.

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Originally posted by birdman14:
Justbaseball - You have it correct. Walk ons and academic aid kids can't be announced until they start practice in the fall. As you have said, only athletic aid recruits can be talked about or announced. .....

The rule is different.
13.10.2 Comments Before Signing. Before the signing of a prospective student-athlete to a National Letter of Intent or an institution’s written offer of admission and/or financial aid, a member institution may comment publicly only to the extent of confirming its recruitment of the prospective student-athlete......

Signing a NLI implies that the signee will receive athletic aid. However, a college can also announce the acceptance of a offer of admission or of any kind of aid. So if a player has signed a non-NLI letter of intent or other offer, when can the college announce?

The D1 rule is ambiguous in my opinion:
13.9.2 Letter of Intent Restriction. A member institution may not participate in an institutional or conference athletics letter-of-intent program or issue an institutional or conference financial aid agreement that involves a signing date that precedes the initial regular (as opposed to early) signing date for the National Letter of Intent program in the same sport. However, an institution may permit a prospective student-athlete to sign an institutional or conference letter of intent during the National Letter of Intent early signing period in the applicable sport. (Revised: 12/12/06, 4/26/07 effective 8/1/07)

The better-written D2 rule says it is OK to sign a non-NLI agreement during the early period, but once the early period has elapsed, no signing may take place until the regular NLI signing period. In other words, non-NLI signings must follow the same calendar as NLI signings.

I believe that the D1 wording is intended to mean the same as the D2 rule.

It is clear that a college may announce a recruit, even if no athletic aid is involved, as soon as he has signed an agreement.

SR 42,

I see what you are talking about with O State. In the release they said they will be announcing more signings thru out the week.

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Originally posted by Momof1B:
So only baseball scholarship athletes sign NLI'. Those that are getting grants, academic are considered walk-ons?
If you are then a student walk on, how do you know you will make the team?
Or is it a gamble unless you get an athletic scholarship?

Originally posted by justbaseball:
Coach should tell you whether or not you have a guaranteed roster spot (as a recruited walkon, academic aid or need-based aid). Coaches will use all 4 tools (those 3 plus athletic aid) to build a team...remember they only have 11.7 athletic scholarships to work with.

It shouldn't be a gamble if the coach was upfront and honest with you.

If coach says roster spot, but no baseball money only an admissions grant, and son fills out his application, etc...is that considered a verbal commitment?
If son isn't 100% sure about school, should he not fill out the application yet?
I just don't want him to committ if he isn't 100% sure.

Momof1B - If I understand what you are talking about, it would not be binding. He should fill out the application.

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I just don't want him to committ if he isn't 100% sure.

...and I like the way you think!

The school cannot announce the signings until they have the NLI in hand. Some players sign them first thing in the morning and fax them back to the coach and mail the originals. Other may not be able to do so which may result in the one day delay etc. No reason to try and read into it...