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Twotex: I think that the parents of younger players want to talk to parents of older players to get a feel for things. Basically to get a lay of the land so to speak. Many times they have certain gripes and are hopeful that the parents of older players have experienced the same issues.

 

If the parent of the older player agrees with their gripe/issue/concern then it validates their opinions.

 

Of course, by the time the parent of the older player has been around the program long enough, they realize that it doesn't matter what they think or the new parent thinks.

Originally Posted by twotex:
Originally Posted by jp24:

I'll jump in with a small challenge to the notion that parents get "better" as the boys get older. Bum is right: The parents of BETTER players may get better, but not all parents! Freshman got called up to varsity last Friday night, played every inning in last two games and been productive. We just keep our mouths shut and root for every boy on the team. ONE, count 'em ONE parent, on a team with 10 seniors and several juniors, has come over to me and my wife and welcomed us. The boys have accepted our son; all's well in the dugout and on the field. Interestingly, the ONE parent who DID welcome us is the dad of the best varsity player on the team. Go figure.

Spoiler alert, this post is going to sound cold.

 

The longer your son plays, the less important the parents of other players become. The game, the experience, isn't about the parents. What I mean is, by the time a player gets to be a senior, he has played hundreds of games on multiple teams. The group of parents on each team may not know each other. And this season, my son's last in high school, I want to take it all in. I don't want to make small talk, or worse, talk about the game, with strangers. I will smile and say hello.

 

The players are a team; the parents are not, nor do they need to be.

 

When my son was younger I noted with more interest the parents of other players. I would have posted this same post. Now I mostly note who I want to avoid. In fact, I prefer to not talk to other parents during the game. 

 

When my son starts college next year, I will take the initiative to introduce myself to the other parents, probably slowly. I don't expect others to take the initiative just because their son has been on the team longer. We are all adults. 

Actually, you're right! We prefer to watch the game and keep to ourselves. Maybe it's us But I just thought it was interesting.

Originally Posted by jp24:
Originally Posted by twotex:
Originally Posted by jp24:

I'll jump in with a small challenge to the notion that parents get "better" as the boys get older. Bum is right: The parents of BETTER players may get better, but not all parents! Freshman got called up to varsity last Friday night, played every inning in last two games and been productive. We just keep our mouths shut and root for every boy on the team. ONE, count 'em ONE parent, on a team with 10 seniors and several juniors, has come over to me and my wife and welcomed us. The boys have accepted our son; all's well in the dugout and on the field. Interestingly, the ONE parent who DID welcome us is the dad of the best varsity player on the team. Go figure.

Spoiler alert, this post is going to sound cold.

 

The longer your son plays, the less important the parents of other players become. The game, the experience, isn't about the parents. What I mean is, by the time a player gets to be a senior, he has played hundreds of games on multiple teams. The group of parents on each team may not know each other. And this season, my son's last in high school, I want to take it all in. I don't want to make small talk, or worse, talk about the game, with strangers. I will smile and say hello.

 

The players are a team; the parents are not, nor do they need to be.

 

When my son was younger I noted with more interest the parents of other players. I would have posted this same post. Now I mostly note who I want to avoid. In fact, I prefer to not talk to other parents during the game. 

 

When my son starts college next year, I will take the initiative to introduce myself to the other parents, probably slowly. I don't expect others to take the initiative just because their son has been on the team longer. We are all adults. 

Actually, you're right! We prefer to watch the game and keep to ourselves. Maybe it's us But I just thought it was interesting.


JP24, Congrats to your son for the move up to varsity. I know it's a large milestone in this journey.

When our son made varsity to start his freshman year, we used to laugh that you could hear the crickets in the stands when he took the mound. The players and coaches were all excepting and supportive because they had practiced with and faced him through the fall and spring practices. The old saying "if the adults would just get out of the way, the boys knew which players belonged and should play" was appropriate. The parents took a while to accept that he belonged on a heavy upperclassman (1 freshman 1 sophmore) squad. They eventaully did.

Enjoy the ride. The seasons get faster and faster.

Amen to that.  Through HS and college ball, my wife and I always made a point of not calling, bothering, or even talking to son's coaches any more than was absolutely necessary because we did not want to be "those parents."  His sophomore year in college we ran into his head coach after an away game.  I wasn't even sure he knew who we were because of our low profile.  But, he approached us like it was a family reuninion.  We mentioned it to our son later and his response was "He likes you.  You keep your mouths shut and support the team."  Don't think that coaches, and players, don't notice this.   
 
We ought to link this thread to the old thread on Where Do You Sit at Ball Games.  
 
Originally Posted by fenwaysouth:

...... The best advice I can give you is to set an example by cheering for the team, and for all the players.  If parents want to have a bitch session don't be a part of it....walk away.

I have been at this (coaching hs ball) for 18 years now.  In that time I have run across the whole spectrum of parent. Some hard to deal with, but most have been great, and some never talked.  I like getting on here and reading parent perspectives. It helps to understand the how and why behind some parent behavior. 

 

I have a 6 yo son who is starting his baseball journey and seems to have the knack for this game (his older sister...not so much).  Anyway, as a parent, I sit down the foul line and don't say too much. Just encourage the kids as they come by.  I am sure some of the other parents don't understand why, but from reading this some of you that have been around the game awhile understand.  

 

My son also plays in the next town over. I guess if he played in our home town, I would have to go mix and mingle to do a little PR.

Preteen parents were brutal. While it gets better with age and experience, I found the only place parents were actually tame was showcase ball. Parents knew every kid was getting to college ball. I remember a lot of backstabbing in high school ball (and we won the conference twice and came in second). I often watched from down the foul line or (OMG!) with parents of opposing high school players I knew from travel ball. This ticked off some parents.

 

Note: Our high school was fed by two youth baseball programs that did not like each other or respect each other. A lot of people never grew up and got past it. Imagine how popular I was for having my son switch programs and help his team win districts twice.

Part of the problem with parents is travel ball. They become accustomed to their son being a star in his age group. Then the kid gets to high school which is 18U ball regardless of age or grade. I've seen plenty of freshman parents have hissy fits their son was assigned to the freshman or JV team. Then they attend varsity games and back stab varsity players.

Originally Posted by RJM:

Part of the problem with parents is travel ball. They become accustomed to their son being a star in his age group. Then the kid gets to high school which is 18U ball regardless of age or grade. I've seen plenty of freshman parents have hissy fits their son was assigned to the freshman or JV team. Then they attend varsity games and back stab varsity players.

 

I spent 24 years as a cop in an urban environment.  I dealt with more than my fair share of emotionally disturbed people.  But, the largest group of them I've ever encountered is parents at travel ball games.  

 

As they say, you need a license to drive a car, but you don't need one to raise a kid.  Some people should have to get a license.  

 

For the most part, it doesn't matter what your kid does during those years.  I don't care how many homeruns your son hit on a field with 200' fences as a 13 year old with a -10 bat.  It doesn't translate to a 60/90 field with 300'+ fences and a wood or bbcor bat.  Make sure they get proper training, some competitive games and let them continue to learn so they are ready for HS baseball.

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