Parents call cops on coach, coach arrested

Blue: steeeeeriiiiike 3

Player: wahhhhh

Blue: coach, you need to take care of your player

Coach: no can do blue, cannot risk my job

Blue: son, you're ejected

Player: wahhhhh, I'm not leaving and you cannot make me.

Blue: Coach?

Coach: Sorry I am legally not allowed... Last guy who did it lost his job, house, and livelihood.

Blue: son last chance, your team will forfeit if you don't leave the confines of the field

Player: wahhhh, you're so mean, you must hate me, I'm not leaving until you change your mind

Blue: Game called, forfeit, ... can't wait to write this one up ;-)

Parents: I want the umpire charged with verbal assault on my baby - we have video proof that ball was 1 mm down and out of the zone and he called him out with a really loud call causing my baby to cry and our team to lose.

Police/DA: <facepalm> 

What is this world coming to ?

luv baseball posted:

life4orce posted:

I find it amazing how quickly the coach has been prejudged by those that weren't even there and understanding the whole situation.  Is he a saint?  No, but who in life is?  Protecting the bad ones?  Seriously?

Reminds me of those so quickly to jump on and vilify those kids from Covington Catholic.

Why?  The iPhone and mob outrage is what the 21st century is most famous for so far IMO.

Duke Lacrosse, Ferguson MO, Smollett, Kavenaugh, 2016 Election and on and on.  No one has ever had to pay a price (yet) for a rush to judgement much less false allegations except the DA in NC who was so far gone he cooked the evidence in court and got caught.  

The result is these become free shots - jump in early with full outrage - you will never, ever be held  to account for being wrong. Hell chances are years later almost half of the people with still think these things actually happened which proves the power of an allegation or bias going in. 

For example for those that do not like the Clintons - they are convinced Whitewater was a thing - it was not - but you will never convince those that believe it is true.  That was 25 years ago and probably close to 1/2 the country still thinks Bill & Hillary did something illegal even though they were were exonerated on it.  

On the other hand - if you preach patience and let the facts come out and later on it is worse then you thought such as say the Church abuse scandel - then you open yourself up to being part of the problem.

So if people will do what they are incentivized to do (and they do most of the time) condemning first and fast is a much safer move for anyone in power.... so who should be surprised when they do.  For poof of this fact look to Trumps reaction to Charlottesville as an example of what happens if you don't - he becomes a Nazi sympathizer for failing to land with both feet in a certain box.

So IMO none of this is very complicated in that regard.

Stopping false allegations and more importantly checking the mob - that is another conversation altogether.  

You are much to level headed for this forum. Be gone with you !!!

JohnF posted:

Blue: steeeeeriiiiike 3

Player: wahhhhh

Blue: coach, you need to take care of your player

Coach: no can do blue, cannot risk my job

Blue: son, you're ejected

Player: wahhhhh, I'm not leaving and you cannot make me.

Blue: Coach?

Coach: Sorry I am legally not allowed... Last guy who did it lost his job, house, and livelihood.

Blue: son last chance, your team will forfeit if you don't leave the confines of the field

Player: wahhhh, you're so mean, you must hate me, I'm not leaving until you change your mind

Blue: Game called, forfeit, ... can't wait to write this one up ;-)

Parents: I want the umpire charged with verbal assault on my baby - we have video proof that ball was 1 mm down and out of the zone and he called him out with a really loud call causing my baby to cry and our team to lose.

Police/DA: <facepalm> 

What is this world coming to ?

You forgot to mention a few things:  Batter has a go-pro attached to his batting helmet to record all interactions.  Also when batter gets the boot he claims "discrimination" (could be race, religion, sexual orientation, etc).  Luckily for the pitcher, he didn't hit the batter with the ball.  Could be an assault case since it was recorded on the Go Pro the pitcher smiled right before he pitched the ball, thereby showing intent to cause bodily harm.

New coaching technique ...

This is the right way to execute should you be inclined to do so. If not, do it your way. I don’t want to incur your wrath. I’m here to serve you. 

If you think travel has more influence on getting to the next level now, just wait. At some point benching a player will be emotional abuse. Principals will counter by demanding no one sits, everyone bats. High school coaches will be glorified baby sitters. Baller’s parents tell travel coaches to do what is needed to turn their kid into the best player possible, 

RJM posted:

New coaching technique ...

This is the right way to execute should you be inclined to do so. If not, do it your way. I don’t want to incur your wrath. I’m here to serve you. 

If you think travel has more influence on getting to the next level now, just wait. At some point benching a player will be emotional abuse. Principals will counter by demanding no one sits, everyone bats. High school coaches will be glorified baby sitters. Baller’s parents tell travel coaches to do what is needed to turn their kid into the best player possible, 

It's already here. Some schools stopped cutting kids, everybody in the program get a letter, physical punishment (running, pushups, sit-ups) no longer allowed because it messed with the players' psyche. I'm not making this up. 

It is a problem that goes far beyond baseball, it is just making it's way into sports now. When you enable people and a culture for too long, it because dangerous and cult like. I'm not sure why people are surprised considering I can't use the word ma'am at work anymore without be fired. 

Some of you are getting too wrapped around the axle over this.

First of all, while it's true that a battery is "any offensive touching," that is really a test more for civil law suits than for criminal court.  There's no criminal court in the land that's going to convict this guy.  I hope he refuses to agree to plead or anything like that.  We need more people to stand up to this kind of abusive misuse of the legal system.

Second, I see all the comments about how everyone knows you can't do this any more because of today's climate.  But if everyone would stand up to it, we could restore order to the situation.  Today's climate is of fairly recent vintage and is not irreversible.  Sometimes pendulums swing back the other way -- if you make them.

The appropriate response to this is for every other family on the team to tell the AD that they refuse to continue with the season unless the player is removed from the roster and the parents are banned from school athletic contests in which any of their children participate.

In short, there's always a way to stand up to bullies.  Here, the bullies are the parents who filed the charge, not the coach.  Like all bullies, the parents are trying to perpetuate a wrong (their son's behavior) through threatening behavior and more.  The only question is whether we have the courage to look those people in the eye and tell them that we're standing up to them.

It's true that too few do, but that's not an argument for the rest of us throwing in the towel.  We can't let the inmates run the asylum.

I saw a coach do this exact thing to my son when he was 11, my response was "get 'em coach".

For those of you who can either afford, or can qualify for financial aid, I highly recommend military academies.  

In public school if Johnny walks up to Timmy and punches him, then Timmy shoves Johnny away, both kids are arrested.

In military school the question is asked, who threw the first punch?  Everyone else is excused and the punch thrower now has 6 hours of marching to work off.

Which sounds more logical?

coach2709 posted:

Sooooo I'm not saying laying hands on the kid was right but what happens if he refuses to leave the field even after coach tells him too?  How does this situation end?  Obviously this kid is done but how do you make him leave if he refuses to?

You take the stance that his parents took. Call the police and have him arrested for trespassing. 

"Xaverian Brothers High School is a top rated, private, all-boys, Catholic school located in Westwood, MA. It has 1,000 students in grades 7-12 with a student-teacher ratio of 13 to 1. Tuition is $21,800 for the highest grade offered. After graduation, 99% of students from this school go on to attend a 4-year college."

In Westwood MA where the median home price is $740K,  you don't touch the children of the elite. The children do what they want and their futures are already laid out. You are simply there to babysit.

CmassRHPDad posted:

"Xaverian Brothers High School is a top rated, private, all-boys, Catholic school located in Westwood, MA. It has 1,000 students in grades 7-12 with a student-teacher ratio of 13 to 1. Tuition is $21,800 for the highest grade offered. After graduation, 99% of students from this school go on to attend a 4-year college."

In Westwood MA where the median home price is $740K,  you don't touch the children of the elite. The children do what they want and their futures are already laid out. You are simply there to babysit.

 

Step two is meet up with the St John’s Prep kids at Boston College or Notre Dame.