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Perfect Game Introduces - PGLJ

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Perfect Game introduces Perfect Game Little Johnny

May 8th Cedar Rapids IA For Immediate Release

Perfect Game the leading company in identifying and ranking college bound high school baseball players announced today a new recruiting service - Perfect Game Little Johnny.

“We have saturated the market in terms of identifying players who actually have a chance of making a college baseball team” said Perfect Game Marketing Director, Mike Raffone. “We have identified a new target market with almost unlimited potential – Parents of players who have no chance of playing college ball, but have unrealistic and naïve view of their sons capabilities” added Mike Raffone.

“We have worked in conjunction with high school coaches around the country who identify the parents of “Little Johnny”” said Executive Director for Perfect Game Little Johnny (PGLJ), B.A. Ware. “Once we have an identified prospect we then send them invitations to Perfect Game Select events where we have placebo coaches from the “top” Universities throughout the country who give the players unrealistic rankings. The rankings are then posted in the Perfect Game Select cross checker. The only difference is that the rankings are meaningless and everyone knows the information is worthless – except for the parents of “Little Johnny”” added Mr. A. Ware. .

“We also have hired special recruitment teams who work with high school coaches who need a way to get keep the offending parents in check”. “The coaches are sick and tired of dealing with the unrealistic parents and this gives the parents a way to bask in their unrealistic glory and keeps them from creating havoc in their programs” said Skip Dover PGLJ Recruitment Director. “It is a perfect scenario” added Skip Dover “the coaches are able get the parents focused on the other things instead of complaining why their son is riding pine” added Mr. Dover.

“We expect to generate at least one million dollars (pinky finger to mouth) in pure profit from this program said P.G Staff president of Perfect Game. “In fact President Obama was going to award us the “economic recovery program of the day award” last week in New York City that we were trying to keep secret until his plane was spotted circling the city and set off a panic. This caused us to call off the ceremony.” Added PG Staff “We obviously don’t want “Little Johnny’s” parents to know the program existed so the White House staff developed a fake story the President was actually not in the plane and the whole episode was a mistake by a low level staffer trying to take pictures of Air Force One” “It worked out perfectly” added PG Staff, I got a discounted seat to the Yankees/Red Sox game behind home plate for $29.95 and President Obama made it look like he actually knows what he is doing”

Look for the Perfect Game Little Johny program under the PG Select brand name at www.perfectgameselect.com

Shhhhh : Don't tell Little Johnny's parents (Wink)
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P PGStaff10,000+ posts
OH NO!!!!

I actually think a lot of these type things are very funny. Coming from friends, especially. I don't want to complain, because I think these things are all in fun. And I love FUN!

But if I could say this... There are people out there who might not know anything about PG. I often wonder just how far these things can go. Does the fish keep getting bigger with every story?

Also, being extremely paranoid... Most probably don't know that we do have enemies. In fact, we have enemies who have come on here under false identities before.

We have seen how any information can be "edited" and sent (emailed) to others to cause problems. This is very real stuff that really happens. They will get rid of the obvious spoof part and come up with something that sounds more realistic. There are people here that know exactly what I mean.

In the meantime, that was pretty good stuff.
BOFBOF10,000+ posts
Kb not an attack on PG, great organization. Maybe you have not been around long enough to know the series. All in fun I hope.

Don't know about enemies PGStaff, from what I have seen must be an unusual circumstance. All business have competitors and PG seems to have risen above them all.

Might be fun to get a call from the White House after Rush picks up on the “real” reason for the NY flyby….
Mom's a FanMom's a Fan10+ posts
“We have worked in conjunction with high school coaches around the country who identify the parents of “Little Johnny”” said Executive Director for Perfect Game Little Johnny (PGLJ), B.A. Ware. “Once we have an identified prospect we then send them invitations to Perfect Game Select events where we have placebo coaches from the “top” Universities throughout the country who give the players unrealistic rankings. The rankings are then posted in the Perfect Game Select cross checker. The only difference is that the rankings are meaningless and everyone knows the information is worthless – except for the parents of “Little Johnny”” added Mr. A. Ware. .

“We also have hired special recruitment teams who work with high school coaches who need a way to get keep the offending parents in check”. “The coaches are sick and tired of dealing with the unrealistic parents and this gives the parents a way to bask in their unrealistic glory and keeps them from creating havoc in their programs” said Skip Dover PGLJ Recruitment Director. “It is a perfect scenario” added Skip Dover “the coaches are able get the parents focused on the other things instead of complaining why their son is riding pine” added Mr. Dover.

“We expect to generate at least one million dollars (pinky finger to mouth) in pure profit from this program said P.G Staff president of Perfect Game. “In fact President Obama was going to award us the “economic recovery program of the day award” last week in New York City that we were trying to keep secret until his plane was spotted circling the city and set off a panic. This caused us to call off the ceremony.” Added PG Staff “We obviously don’t want “Little Johnny’s” parents to know the program existed so the White House staff developed a fake story the President was actually not in the plane and the whole episode was a mistake by a low level staffer trying to take pictures of Air Force One” “It worked out perfectly” added PG Staff, I got a discounted seat to the Yankees/Red Sox game behind home plate for $29.95 and President Obama made it look like he actually knows what he is doing”

Look for the Perfect Game Little Johny program under the PG Select brand name at www.perfectgameselect.com

Shhhhh : Don't tell Little Johnny's parents (Wink)[/QUOTE]



This is too funny, but sadly I believe it to be true. My son attended his 1st perfect game individual showcase last fall. He did great fielding work, did fine with the running, but when it came time to bat, he choked. And I do mean choked, he couldn't hit a single ball. I'm glad to say it was a one-time incident, however, when I check the ratings/ranking system online, he is a top prospect. Now I continue to get mail stating that he is a D1 hopeful. IMHO, if they really ranked him by his performance at that one showcse, they probably would have ranked him pretty low!!!!!
P PGStaff10,000+ posts
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This is too funny, but sadly I believe it to be true. My son attended his 1st perfect game individual showcase last fall. He did great fielding work, did fine with the running, but when it came time to bat, he choked. And I do mean choked, he couldn't hit a single ball. I'm glad to say it was a one-time incident, however, when I check the ratings/ranking system online, he is a top prospect. Now I continue to get mail stating that he is a D1 hopeful. IMHO, if they really ranked him by his performance at that one showcse, they probably would have ranked him pretty low!!!!!


Thanks Mom! BTW, we grade based on our perception of projected ability, not performance. We have watched kids like Lastings Milledge and Jeff Clement strike out every plate appearance and look terrible doing it, but still graded them a 10.

Very strange post! Coming from a parent. Do you think your son is a DI prospect? Are you complaining about the mail he is getting from DI coaches? Did we grade him correctly or not? Usually the complaints are about the grade being too low.

I checked your very first post... States that your son is a sophomore who started varsity in Florida as a Freshman. Surely he must be very talented.

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My son is a sophomore this year playing Varsity. He played Varsity last year as a Freshman and had an outstanding season as a pitcher/outfielder. This season, he seems to really be struggling with his pitching. On the mound, there is a sense of timidity and intimidation where last year he was referred to as the "ice-man" due to his tenacity. I'm hoping this is just one of those wierd teenage times, but as a mom I can't help but be concerned. This is the first time he has gone through any struggles as a ball player. Any helpful insight would be appreciated.


Not trying to cause a problem, just a bit confused by why you posted that. Do you feel we are dishonest?
fillsfanfillsfan1,000+ posts
Mom's A Fan,

A similar thing happened to me and my son. I took him to a showcase event when he was a freshman. He was ready for this event in 7th grade but the missus didn't want me to rush him. Anyway at this event he fielded great (except for that bad hop), ran under a 7.0 60 (I counted), threw at least 90 mph ( I can tell just by watching how fast he throws) and hit line drives all over the place.

Every time I approached a scout or an event official I could tell they agreed with my assessment because they nodded and said "yes sir little Johny sure is good" when I told them how good my son was doing. The fact that they knew his name told me they were watching the right kid.

But when the ratings came out he did not receive the 10 I was expecting. Or a nine, or 8, or 7 or... lets just say that it's obvious these people really don't know what they are doing. If I ever run into one of these guys again I will tell them exactly what I told the high school coach when they put him on the freshman team; "don't you know my son plays SS on the Bulldogs travel team every year and is the best kid out here." Sometimes I wonder what these people a looking at.

What this experience did for me is just confirm what I already knew. The best and fastest way for my son to reach the big leagues is to continue playing SS for me and my brother every summer and send game videos to the few major league teams we want him to play for. I know that when a kid has this much talent the scouts will find him.

We got this far without any outside help so who needs them.

If your son is an outfielder and wants to play for the Bulldogs send me a PM.

Sincerely,
I.M. Nutz
JMoffJMoff1,000+ posts
fillsfan:
Almost too subtle. I wasn't sure you were really kidding until I read the signature.

There are so many of these people out there, its scary. I had a mother call me the other night about a summer program. She saw my boy's name on some website about the program and wanted to know how they got his name. I told her my son had been contacted and invited, to which she replied, "Oh Johnny must have lost his invitation. I'll call them and find out what happened to it."
Mom's a FanMom's a Fan10+ posts
Very strange post! Coming from a parent. Do you think your son is a DI prospect? Are you complaining about the mail he is getting from DI coaches? Did we grade him correctly or not? Usually the complaints are about the grade being too low.

I checked your very first post... States that your son is a sophomore who started varsity in Florida as a Freshman. Surely he must be very talented.
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I will start off by saying that like all parents I do believe my son has talent. As far as your grading, I'm not sure he was really even gradable considering he didn't stay for the entire event. He became ill and we had to leave before any games were played.

That aside, I believe parents attend these types of events to get what they deem an accurate and honest opinion of their son's capabilities. When I refer to these events, I am refering to all camps, clinics, etc.. where there is scouting and evaluations performed, not solely Perfect Game.

Maybe I'm unlike most parents, but I don't want to be fed a song and dance by someone just to keep me interested in their program so I keep spending money to attend their events. I want honesty. If my son just doesn't have what it takes, I want to be told that. If he's great, I want to be told that also, but I want it to be sincere.

I am aware that scouts observe the prospect in a player as well as their performance and attitude. I'm just really skeptical as a parent as to where the line is to be drawn between someone telling you your son is truly talented and someone trying to keep things positive so you keep attending their events.

I have nothing against your program and we will be attending the 17U Ft. Myers event this summer with a team, not an individual showcase.
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Mom's a FanMom's a Fan10+ posts
[QUOTE]Originally posted by JMoff:
fillsfan:
Almost too subtle. I wasn't sure you were really kidding until I read the signature.

There are so many of these people out there, its scary.
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What kind of person do think I am JMoff????? I wonder how you came to the conclusion that I'm the type of mom that insists my son should be on every team from my post? I would think from reading my post that the opposite would hold true. I thought he was ranked too high based on his performance at that event.

If you think I'm a mom who wants to do the right things for her son, you're right. I'm trying to make the best decisions with him because we only have one shot at this. He will only be in high school once and we want to make wise decisions. That is part of the reason for joining this board, to get good advice from people who've been there and done that. I wonder if you're here for the same reasons?
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P PGStaff10,000+ posts
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Maybe I'm unlike most parents, but I don't want to be fed a song and dance by someone just to keep me interested in their program so I keep spending money to attend their events. I want honesty. If my son just doesn't have what it takes, I want to be told that. If he's great, I want to be told that also, but I want it to be sincere.


Mom's a Fan,

I was going to let this go, but... I know who your son is. He was at our Underclass event in Florida. He was graded fairly low. He did not run a good 60 time (that you mentioned he did) He did not throw well or field well (Which you mentioned he did) He did not hit well (Which you mentioned he didn't)

You also mentioned he was rated a "TOP PROSPECT" at that event (Which he definitely was NOT) He was graded as high as we possibly could have based on what we saw. It was not a high grade at all and you know it better than anyone. The TRUTH is that only one player at that very large event had a lower grade than your son.

Yet you come on here stating that we graded your son too high, trying to mislead yopu into spending more money on us. Maybe you don't want to be fed a "song and dance by someone just to keep you interested in their program so I keep spending money to attend their events". " What a misleading person you are!!!! You Mom are the dishonest one here!!!!

Care to carry on this debate? Maybe you need to think again about atternding that 17U in Ft Myers. Integrity is not your strong suit! Obviously you do have a problem! I'm sorry we didn't grade your son higher and I'm even more sorry that you used this method to get back at us!

You have been discovered! I apologize to others that this became necessary.
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MN-MomMN-MomHSBaseballWeb Owner
Thank you, ClevelandDad, for your post above, and for closing this thread. I just wanted to add a couple of thoughts to what you posted.

If anyone thinks that PGStaff's post above was out-of-the-ordinary for him, please consider:

No one has stated publicly who Mom's a Fan's son is, and no one will know. PGStaff would never reveal that, I'm sure. But Mom's a Fan has come on here under the shield of an anonymous screen name, repeatedly implying something very untrue about Perfect Game. I know the people at Perfect Game, and their integrity is EVERYTHING to them. They would never give an inflated review to a player in order to entice a parent to return to more events. They don't need to do that!!! Their events are attended by the top players in the nation, and by the coaches of the top college baseball programs, and by scouts from every MLB team.

PGStaff and the rest of the Perfect Game organization are some of the very nicest and most decent people you will ever meet, either in baseball or elsewhere. If you only knew all of the times they make a special effort to help a player or parent, without telling anyone about it, and without asking for any money! They do not deserve to have false accusations made against them, whether from a disgruntled parent or from the competition.

Thanks again, ClevelandDad. I agree with your post and I am re-closing this thread.

Julie
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