PG Rankings and Others

My best advice is to have your son go out and play his best and don't worry about the rankings. Most people who count know who the best players are without the rankings, and many people doing rankings of one kind or another really don't have much of a clue.

A Perfect Game grade, by the way, is very different than the Perfect Game rankings, which after perhaps the first 20 guys are more of a **** shoot than anything else (and I would say that is true of nearly every ranking list out there). Look at the June draft and then for fun compare it to the Baseball America or Perfect Game rankings. I think you will be amazed by what you find, especially as you get further down the lists.

You don't - don't worry about it. Keep him working hard and being seen and let the college coaches sort it out.

BTW the free ones are the events that matter the most. IMO they are: 1. AFLAC, 2. Area Code 3. USA Baseball team invites. The rest are basically organizations profiting on your desire to have your son seen. Some more reputable than others of course.

I do mean PG grade. He was "graded" a 7.5 at 2 PG events and it listed as High Follow by PG.....Thanks for the feedback

Just an FYI...Bobby Valentine AA is just a fancy name for a team.

Every June we look closely and compare our list to the draft. Then we check again in future years. Here is an example from the 2002 list.

A look back at 2002 rankings

We certainly don't look at it as **** shoot and neither do many others.

There's really only one list. It is the first list. Each year, all other lists contain pretty much the same names just moving them around somewhat. Those who follow these things know that. College coaches know that!

That said, it is good advice not to worry about such lists. It won't do you any good at all. No list is perfect.

Do the lists really only matter for Juniors and Seniors as they are beginning to make critical decisions. Is it more important to be on the list as a Senior verse a Sophmore...If I follow the logic in other threads, most of the lists are geared towards the MLB draft in June or NLI signing dates for recruiting.

My personal opinion is that being ranked highly gets you more looks BUT you have to show you can play when you get those eyeballs on you. Would you rather get those looks as a soph. or a senior? I would say the early, the better.

What redbird said.

Welcome to the 7.5 club!
Rankings and ratings and lists do not define a player. What matters is what he does on the field when the right people are watching. A higher rating might get more people to look, but the proof is in the pudding (or performance)

For the life of me, I don't recall PG or Baseball America ever drafting a player or offering one a scholarship.

Just as a reminder, it's versus.

Don't worry about the rankings/grades. Just keep working as hard as possible, improve every season, seek out the best competition, get in front of scouts, and never give up. Good things will happen no matter what your grade/ranking is.

Initial high rankings/grades do get initial looks but all that really matters is if you can play.

stanwood,

That is great advice.

If a scout said "Your son looks to be a mid-round draft pick potential and a solid D1 prospect." would you be offended?

That is basically what a PG rating of 7.5 is. It does not look like a great score, but unless you feel you should be a high draft pick, it is a pretty good score.

Wouldn't a 7.5 with a lot of up-side be a lot better than an 8.5 at top potential?

Hope we did not imply we are "unpleased" with the ranking/grade; more looking for relevance and experiences from others. He was a 7.5 at PG, 4 at Baseball Factory and all with good things to say about his skills. For first timers in the recruiting scene, we are trying to learn and manage our (and his expectations). Thanks for all the feedback

What is a 51 from the MLB scouting bureau how would that compare to a PG ranking ? My son only attended one PG event tourney when he was 16 so no real ranking , just top 1000. He has attended a few workouts w scouts , pre draft stuff , east coast etc... No charge events. I think PG is a great business and they have helped a lot of players get attention. So how come everyone uses different numbers . Would it make better sense to use a standard ranking system ?

It all does seem somewhat mysterious, lol!

Would that be the 20-80 scale with MLB average being 40? So a rating of 51 would be a Plus?

51 is probably like a 9 or 9.5/10 in Pg terms; there are some other posts that expain in more detail. Beauty is always in the eye of the beholder though.... Pro scouts average out grades out of 10 for arm, fielding, sped, hitting and power. Hitting and power may be weighed heavier in the computation. 50 is mlb average, so a 51 means that in someones eyes, they would basically be able to step into the mlb. Probably draftable in the 25th round and lower?

Nice work!

Rememeber that Bureau grades are one individual scouts opinion. Players that are seen twice or more by different bureau scouts could grade out much differently from one time to the next. Of course they are being evaluated on different days as well. Could be a 60 by one bureau scout and a 48 by another on a different day. Same as a PG 7 could be a PG 9 on a different day.

That said 51 is very good and would be at least a 9 or even possibly a 10 by PG. IF we used a 2-8 or 20-80 MLB scale and graded someone a 51, it would be similar to a 10 PG grade. There just aren't that many high school kids with slightly better than average MLB tools overall. A 51, if correct, would be an early round prospect!

Also, keep in mind that two different scouts can watch the same player and form a different opinion. It's not all that unusual to have one club draft a player in round 10 to 20 while another club didn't even have that same player turned in for the draft, at all.