possibility of a medical hardship?

First of all, all I did was ask. There really isn't a reason to get stupid with the jokes and what not. This obviously a very big deal to us.

Anyway, you may not be familiar with how dual enrollment works in the state of Florida. In Florida, a student that is in the 11th grade can test into the dual enrollment program that allows him/her to enroll in college courses that count for college and hs at the same time. This is why my son has so many college courses completed. However, dual enrollment does not count toward collegiate athletics eligibility.

My point about his college is that we are not terribly concerned with getting him started in college "on time." He is already ahead of pace. Anyway, thanks for the help: hopefully my son can rehabilitate in time for the season. We have been thinking that rehab would take a year.

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We have been thinking that rehab would take a year.

Sons teammate was committed to UF at tight end, tore his ACL in mid October. He was playing 3rd base in February. He wasn't 100%, but he played.

tsirhc-
I've also heard that it takes a year for many to regain fully the power and feel lost from ACL surgery. If speed is a big part of your son's game, then I would count on that much time.
I don't see anything wrong with considering all his options, but it seems to me that moving forward would be the best path to take. As CADad pointed out, there are lots of options (summer teams, JC, etc) that provide more exposure and even higher levels of play than HS.

I don't think anyone made jokes on purpose, that's just what happens sometimes when the poster doesn't give all the information. IMO, it does seem a bit odd that a HS student who has aquired enough college credits to be considered a sophmore would want to still play HS ball. You don't get better by playing with or against those younger than you, JMO. There is nothing that says another year would guarantee a baseball scholarship. If he is good but young, JUCO is a good option. This is something you can speak to the HS coach about as well and get his opinion.

You need to speak to the doctor about his rehab and how long before he can resume playing. You also might want to speak to him whether it is necessary at this time. Then find what can you do by speaking to someone who understands FHSAA rules. Then find a summer team for him to play on next summer for exposure.

tsirhc, I think you really need to go to fhsaa.org to get the answer to your question. Just from a quick read of the rules, I don't think you'll get the answer you're hoping for.

The way I read it, a medical hardship would be something bad enough to render him incapable of doing his schoolwork for long enough that he would not be able to complete the academic requirements to pass his grade. As long as he can do his schoolwork and progress to the next grade, which he can while recovering from his ACL surgery, I think the clock keeps ticking.

But CADad, I think, has the silver lining:

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Travel teams, scout teams, showcases, etc. There wouldn't be many opportunities during the HS season but that really isn't all that long of a time and he can probably find an adult baseball league to play in during that time.

I hope your son recovers quickly.

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There really isn't a reason to get stupid with the jokes and what not. This obviously a very big deal to us.

My point about his college is that we are not terribly concerned with getting him started in college "on time." He is already ahead of pace. Anyway, thanks for the help: hopefully my son can rehabilitate in time for the season. We have been thinking that rehab would take a year.

so, if someone does not agree with your line of thinking they are stupid?

several responses view your fixation on son playing hs baseball after fulfilling grad requirements as bewildering (polite term) - rightly so imo

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As CADad pointed out, there are lots of options (summer teams, JC, etc) that provide more exposure and even higher levels of play than HS.

if son's ambtion is college ball a high level of play in summer is very important ...

hs stats are important to parents


since home schooling offers alot of flexibility, some long range planning goes a long way ...
some (home school) parents I know planned out hs graduation before son(s) began 9th grade ..
both graduated at 19 ys old -

one went pro from hs

other drafted as 21 yr old soph, again as a 22 yr old jr - now pitching mlb

good luck

Hey bee,

I have no "fixation" about my son playing in hs. It is my son's desire to play Div.I; if juco is the only option, and he wants to play there - fine. The problem with the juco route for him is that he already has so many college credits that he would end up taking classes that he really doesn't need. Further, exactly which view point did I even offer that people disagreed with? I simply asked questions and tried to give my son's situation, which is a bit different than most kids today. BTW, it does not really matter if my son ever plays an inning of baseball again. He is already such a blessing to his family: he is a great student, never been in a lick of trouble, and really excited about the rest of his life.

Thanks for all of the advice. A quick note: my son has been playing for summer and fall travel teams for the last four years, so obviously he will do this again so long as his knee allows it. My son is 5-10 and tops out around 85, sits at 82. However, in the last year he has added about 7 mph in velocity - it seemed as though he was just breaking through some velocity walls. Being that he is still quite young he has been thinking that another year would only help. In the end, it is what it is.

tsirhc:




I didn't intend to offend. Sorry. I wish your son the best.

infidel,
Robert would be younger than many of the seniors playing in the Marmonte league this coming season.

Yup. He won't be 18 for another month. He is quite incredible!

It would be interesting to see just how dominant he would have been this season if they had waited another year before starting him in school and then kept him in HS for his senior season.

My guess is that if they had taken that route they wouldn't have sent him to USC early as he'd have probably had a good shot at going in the top 5 in the 2008 draft.

He has a pretty good chance of going early in the 2009 draft so things are probably going to work out just fine for him.

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The problem with the juco route for him is that he already has so many college credits that he would end up taking classes that he really doesn't need.

But he needs a 5th year of high school?

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by tsirch:
(1) The problem with the juco route for him is that he already has so many college credits that he would end up taking classes that he really doesn't need.
(2) Further, exactly which view point did I even offer that people disagreed with?

re # 1 .. I agree

re # 2 - viewing it as desirable that someone should play (extra) hs baseball who (from your description) should have graduated academicly -
btw, you CAN do that in college

HS is NOT the minor league of college baseball, it's about aquiring the academic base which will allow admission to a college - congrats .. you seem to have done a fine job there

now, I maybe stating the obvious ... however you DID ask for opinions ...

this is what I'd do ...my 10 pt program

1) graduate HS asap (even early) -
YOU WILL HAVE A FLA SUNSHINE SCHOLARSHIP "IN HAND" $$$

2) communicate with "in-state" colleges where ya realisticly feel he can contribute ...

3) interview & get feedback from coaching staffs

4) choose one and enroll

5) apply for academic $$$

6) if unable to tryout as a walk-on freshman yr due to recovery progress, volunteer as student staff (manager etc) ... you will have access to facilities, workout routines, would travel, and get familiar w/team & coaches - & visa/versa

7) soph yr - when you are healthy ...
TRY OUT at earliest chance (if even necessary, ya may have an invite at that point)...
YOU HAVE 4 YRS REMAINING ELIGIBILITY - don't hurt anything else

AND ... esp w/new rules YOU will be a VALUABLE ASSET to coach as a KNOWN "player/recruit" who has proven academic eligibility, FITS IN, AND needs little (IF ANY AT ALL) baseball money ...
your GPA & APR would have coaches salivating

8) play 4 yrs, helping the team accomplish it's goals

9) after 5 yrs of basicly free college, son will have played 4 YRS COLLEGE BASEBALL

10) after 5 yrs of basicly free college, son will have a Bachelor's Degree, PLUS Master's Degree, & prolly be working on a Doctorate (or two)


isn't that better than hanging back pitching against HS freshmen?? (rhetorical)

tsirch: I'm sorry that your son got hurt in his senior year. Mine did, too. He had been hit by a pitch in June, which broke the two bones in his wrist, but we didn't know until January that the cartilage had also torn. Surgery could not be scheduled until the end of February--co-incidentally, it was the day of the high school try-outs....So his missed out on his senior year entirely. The coach did not even allow him to be ON the team because he didn't try out. Bummer.

Of course this unfortunate set of circumstances totally changed his plans. Ours, too. He is at a D3 school, where he will Medical Hardship his first year. Hopefully, he will not have missed too much baseball so that he will be able to play when he is a sophomore. He, too, is young for his class, so we welcome the year to grow and develop. Thankfully, life goes on. It doesn't for some.

Good luck to your son. I hope he gets to play.

I was typing when Bee posted his 10 step program.

Sounds good to me. I agree with this plan whole-heartedly.

Bee's program is proactive. In the unlikelihood (imo), the waiver is granted, recovery to the point of being competitive, even in high school, isn't a certainty. It would be disapointing for a kid to wait around until March 2009 taking juco courses he didn't need, only to find out "My knee still hurts."

Sons current roomie just quit baseball, or actually baseball quit him, since he has been rehabbing an elbow for three years without an inning thrown. Sometimes, enough is enough.

Thanks to all!