CLASS OF 2008
NAME POS SCHOOL
Jimmy Risi P Highland Park
Jared Culuer OF Downers Grove South
Brian Claesson C Kaneland
Cody Crook P/OF Kaneland
Matt Schmidt SS Grayslake Central
Victor Rodriguez P/SS East Aurora
Brian Brauen 2B/P Streamwood
Zach Bradley P/IF McHenry
Zak Peterson P/IF McHenry
Mike Wido SS Downers Grove South
Mike Gislain P/1B Plainfield North
Kevin Palermo OF Driscoll
David Schwabe SS Driscoll
Adam Davis C Driscoll
Alex Beckmann 2B Batavia
Carl Feibis SS Hinsdale South
Trevor Stevens IF Glenbrook South
Sean Flanagan SS/3B Downers Grove South
Joe Cesario OF/P Andrew
Mark McDermott C Andrew
Matt Fulton P Nazareth Academy
Jake Thornton OF St. Charles North
Daniel Jimenez P St. Charles North
Brian de la Torriente P/SS St. Charles North
Rafael Garcia SS Clemente
Cody Koepke P Reavis
Joey DeBernardis 3B/P Lake Zurich
Nate Prokuski P Huntley
Kyle Quirk P Huntley
Alex Diller C Prairie Central
Matt Goll SS/P Stevenson
Mike Barry P Providence
Trace Copps C Bloom Trail
Robbie Nehf 2B/SS Bloom Trail
Berrell Burkes IF Rich South
John Lorenz P/IF Lincoln-Way East
Barett Serrato SS West Chicago
Clay Henricksen C Grayslake North
Drew Golz P Oak Park River Forest
Jonathan Weaver P Leyden
Jack Townley C Leyden
Cam Stephens OF Leyden
Ben Palmer P Elgin Westminister Christian
Jordan Banuelos OF York
Luke Regule SS York
Chris Jordan P Geneva
Mike McQuillan OF/2B Brother Rice
Tom Hickey 1B/P Brother Rice
Chris Kontos P/3B/SS Niles West
Will Hill OF Glenbard South
Joe Biagini C Glenbard South
Bryan Roberts C/P Benet
Brian Lorenz P/1B Lyons Township
Ed Viliunas C/3B/P Lyons Township
Trevor Stevens SS Glenbrook South
Jacob Tresemer P/1B Rockford Auburn
Jordan Siversten OF/P Carmel
Andrew Myers SS Rockford Auburn
Brad Schintzer P/1B Vernon Hills
Jon Schwartz P Vernon Hills
Ryan Windt P/3B Richards
Jordan Field P/OF Grayslake North
X Roberts and Lorenz top this group. What about Sandburg, Joliet Catholic, Rita, Lawrence, 3 from Driscoll..multiple selections from others??
Illinois Top Prospects????
The IHSBCA is a very Chicago-centric organization. There are a lot of members down here, but they don't get involved until its time to pick the Rosters for the ICA All-State games here in Peoria. That list is what is: a listing of the best players in Chicago.
Ben, Then wouldn't it be practical to call it the Chicago area "Top Prospect List" and not Illinois?
The multiple selections from certain teams is also concerning and to me diminishes this somewhat??
There are just too many quality programs in Illinois to have that many kids make such a list from the same team. If the IHSA has their name on it they should scrutinize this a little better.
The multiple selections from certain teams is also concerning and to me diminishes this somewhat??
There are just too many quality programs in Illinois to have that many kids make such a list from the same team. If the IHSA has their name on it they should scrutinize this a little better.
The IHSBCA list is made up by coaches. A coach can nominate a player via email but the player has to be approved. IBACH not sure about your comment about the IHSA, since they have no impact on this list. The IHSBCA is a completely different organization than the IHSA.
If you want to know why players don't make the list it is usually because their coach doesn't email their names in. A great majority of the kids that are nominated are deserving, I know all three of mine are definitely worthy. All three are D1 caliber players. You don't have to take my word for it, just ask around about my three. They are probably the most talented three players I've ever coached.
This list also has a northern slant because a majority of the coaches that nominate are from the north.
Sorry about the tone, I just don't appreciate the comment about programs that have three kids on the list, especially when most of the omitted kids you are mentioning aren't there because their names were never even submitted.
If you want to know why players don't make the list it is usually because their coach doesn't email their names in. A great majority of the kids that are nominated are deserving, I know all three of mine are definitely worthy. All three are D1 caliber players. You don't have to take my word for it, just ask around about my three. They are probably the most talented three players I've ever coached.
This list also has a northern slant because a majority of the coaches that nominate are from the north.
Sorry about the tone, I just don't appreciate the comment about programs that have three kids on the list, especially when most of the omitted kids you are mentioning aren't there because their names were never even submitted.
ibach, do you even know what comes out of your mouth? the ihsa has NOTHING to do with this list. they are not even associated with this list, where do you get your material from? wake up for once.
Coach Thanks for the explanation, It looked like this was approved by the IHSA, Fungo I stand corrected. I would bet I'm not the only one who looked at that and thought it was affiliated more with the IHSA. Coach with all the schools and talent it just seems like (3) from one team is a bit much, not trying to argue, and if you won a State Championship I would stand down, but even two seems inappropriate.
My contention is that this list appears to be a representation of the IHSA and Illinois in general which it is not. Coach I respect your selections but question the material (Fungo) on the list.
My contention is that this list appears to be a representation of the IHSA and Illinois in general which it is not. Coach I respect your selections but question the material (Fungo) on the list.
Fungo Master, Ibach made a simple mistake. I've asked him to moderate his responses and he has shown a willingness to do so. I don't think such a response is warrented from you for such an honest mistake. He is fairly accurate in his assessment that that list is a Chicago based team. ...or I'm sure missing a lot of talented players from the South that are worthy of being mentioned on that list. Further, in order to get kids listed, one would have to be in the association. At least that is how our association works. It seems as if this subject is a yearly event. I know I've addressed it several times in the past.
In the Metro East area of St. Louis, we have a Metro East Baseball Coaches Association. There is another coaches association further south than here. Geographically speaking, we just couldn't attend that association's events. Then again, perhaps someone could list the coaches active in that association and we'd see how many southern coaches belong.
In the Metro East area of St. Louis, we have a Metro East Baseball Coaches Association. There is another coaches association further south than here. Geographically speaking, we just couldn't attend that association's events. Then again, perhaps someone could list the coaches active in that association and we'd see how many southern coaches belong.
IBACH,
I appreciate your response. I think we can agree to disagree. The purpose of a list is to seek exposure for our athletes who we believe can make it to the major college level. I believe my three deserve that. As for the state title, I guess I would be one semifinal victory away from being able to have a chance to win that argument
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Coach B, contrary to belief you don't have to be in the association to nominate players. You just have to log on the IHSBCA website and send an email to the appropriate person to nominate your players. I know the IHSBCA would welcome all nominations regardless of geography. I know you have a lot of players deserving of such an honor, even though I know many of them don't need the help of the IHSBCA nomination to get them to play college baseball. The reputation of your program has done that for your kids already. Check out the site however, it may be worth your while.
[URL=www.illinoishighschoolbaseball.org ]www.illinoishighschoolbaseball.org [/URL]
I appreciate your response. I think we can agree to disagree. The purpose of a list is to seek exposure for our athletes who we believe can make it to the major college level. I believe my three deserve that. As for the state title, I guess I would be one semifinal victory away from being able to have a chance to win that argument
. Coach B, contrary to belief you don't have to be in the association to nominate players. You just have to log on the IHSBCA website and send an email to the appropriate person to nominate your players. I know the IHSBCA would welcome all nominations regardless of geography. I know you have a lot of players deserving of such an honor, even though I know many of them don't need the help of the IHSBCA nomination to get them to play college baseball. The reputation of your program has done that for your kids already. Check out the site however, it may be worth your while.
[URL=www.illinoishighschoolbaseball.org ]www.illinoishighschoolbaseball.org [/URL]
Coach, thank you so much. I will check out that site.
I'm sorry, but this just isn't fun anymore (or very informative). I feel like the Illinois Forum has been hijacked.
Does anyone else feel this way?
Does anyone else feel this way?
Rosey, I thought it was informative, but out of respect to you I will exit the thread.
MI
MI
I just took a look at the IHSBCA website to check out their lists of prospects and because i am pretty familiar with the 09 class i think i can comment fairly accurately on this. I can think of at least 20 players who are omitted from their list . Most of these players would probably be toward the top of the list . For whatever the reasons are, this is not an accurate sampling on the IHSBCA site.
sulltiger24, I am sure the players you have in mind will make the list in the near future. I know a few coaches who are not going to submit a name before the kid proves what he can do at the high school level. There are always kids that are missing in any list that is published. It is no different than a publication putting out the names of the top 10 year olds in the country. IMO those who you speak of will showcase the talent and get the recognition that they rightfully deserve.
sulltiger24....
'ballfan' is correct, BUT, and I know he's going to kill me for this, don't forget the "politics." There are, and were players on these lists that did not deserve to be there. Some kids get overlooked because of grades, or who's parent knows which alumnis. PBR gets beat-up all of the time because someone doesn't like who was left off their list, or who is on the list! You can look at the high school coaches association list and you can agree or disagree with their selections. Their not right all of the time either!!
Sorry but its true. Until you get unbiased opinions about their "play" and not their showcase performances, but their play, the lists will always be slanted! Not everyone is invited to showcases, and not everyone has great grades. And for the most part, selections are made for those who do participate in these events and who do have good grades.
Go back and check the list of star players from the last three, four or five years. Where are they now? Are they still playing? How many times have they transfered because of poor grades, no playing time, unhappy with the coaches, girlfriends, bad social problems, get the picture!!!!! It doesn't matter what list your kid is on, what matters is if they are going to go to the right college situation. After all, isn't that what the lists are for, the college coaches and pro scouts too see??? Those poor coaches and scouts, if they only knew who was really going to stick around their programs.
O-o-o-ps, almost forgot, go back to the lists I mentioned from a few years ago, and add "character" to that list. Who really had it? The ones that are still playing, thats who! And if anyone dosen't understand what I mean, then you just don't get it at all!!!!
Rosy.....
Your absolutely right my friend!!!!!!!
'ballfan' is correct, BUT, and I know he's going to kill me for this, don't forget the "politics." There are, and were players on these lists that did not deserve to be there. Some kids get overlooked because of grades, or who's parent knows which alumnis. PBR gets beat-up all of the time because someone doesn't like who was left off their list, or who is on the list! You can look at the high school coaches association list and you can agree or disagree with their selections. Their not right all of the time either!!
Sorry but its true. Until you get unbiased opinions about their "play" and not their showcase performances, but their play, the lists will always be slanted! Not everyone is invited to showcases, and not everyone has great grades. And for the most part, selections are made for those who do participate in these events and who do have good grades.
Go back and check the list of star players from the last three, four or five years. Where are they now? Are they still playing? How many times have they transfered because of poor grades, no playing time, unhappy with the coaches, girlfriends, bad social problems, get the picture!!!!! It doesn't matter what list your kid is on, what matters is if they are going to go to the right college situation. After all, isn't that what the lists are for, the college coaches and pro scouts too see??? Those poor coaches and scouts, if they only knew who was really going to stick around their programs.
O-o-o-ps, almost forgot, go back to the lists I mentioned from a few years ago, and add "character" to that list. Who really had it? The ones that are still playing, thats who! And if anyone dosen't understand what I mean, then you just don't get it at all!!!!
Rosy.....
Your absolutely right my friend!!!!!!!
quote:Originally posted by Ibach:
CLASS OF 2008
NAME POS SCHOOL
Jimmy Risi P Highland Park
Jared Culuer OF Downers Grove South
Brian Claesson C Kaneland
Cody Crook P/OF Kaneland
Matt Schmidt SS Grayslake Central
Victor Rodriguez P/SS East Aurora
Brian Brauen 2B/P Streamwood
Zach Bradley P/IF McHenry
Zak Peterson P/IF McHenry
Mike Wido SS Downers Grove South
Mike Gislain P/1B Plainfield North
Kevin Palermo OF Driscoll
David Schwabe SS Driscoll
Adam Davis C Driscoll
Alex Beckmann 2B Batavia
Carl Feibis SS Hinsdale South
Trevor Stevens IF Glenbrook South
Sean Flanagan SS/3B Downers Grove South
Joe Cesario OF/P Andrew
Mark McDermott C Andrew
Matt Fulton P Nazareth Academy
Jake Thornton OF St. Charles North
Daniel Jimenez P St. Charles North
Brian de la Torriente P/SS St. Charles North
Rafael Garcia SS Clemente
Cody Koepke P Reavis
Joey DeBernardis 3B/P Lake Zurich
Nate Prokuski P Huntley
Kyle Quirk P Huntley
Alex Diller C Prairie Central
Matt Goll SS/P Stevenson
Mike Barry P Providence
Trace Copps C Bloom Trail
Robbie Nehf 2B/SS Bloom Trail
Berrell Burkes IF Rich South
John Lorenz P/IF Lincoln-Way East
Barett Serrato SS West Chicago
Clay Henricksen C Grayslake North
Drew Golz P Oak Park River Forest
Jonathan Weaver P Leyden
Jack Townley C Leyden
Cam Stephens OF Leyden
Ben Palmer P Elgin Westminister Christian
Jordan Banuelos OF York
Luke Regule SS York
Chris Jordan P Geneva
Mike McQuillan OF/2B Brother Rice
Tom Hickey 1B/P Brother Rice
Chris Kontos P/3B/SS Niles West
Will Hill OF Glenbard South
Joe Biagini C Glenbard South
Bryan Roberts C/P Benet
Brian Lorenz P/1B Lyons Township
Ed Viliunas C/3B/P Lyons Township
Trevor Stevens SS Glenbrook South
Jacob Tresemer P/1B Rockford Auburn
Jordan Siversten OF/P Carmel
Andrew Myers SS Rockford Auburn
Brad Schintzer P/1B Vernon Hills
Jon Schwartz P Vernon Hills
Ryan Windt P/3B Richards
Jordan Field P/OF Grayslake North
X Roberts and Lorenz top this group. What about Sandburg, Joliet Catholic, Rita, Lawrence, 3 from Driscoll..multiple selections from others??
Illinois Top Prospects????
Garcia is an 07
I just hope the wind isnt blowing the wrong way in thsi p-----g contest
Rosy you are right. It's hard to tell because the board seems to get slow at this time of the year, but we aren't seeing a lot going on.
Hope it isn't because of one guy talking himself up, but if it continues he will be talking himself up to himself.
Hope it isn't because of one guy talking himself up, but if it continues he will be talking himself up to himself.
Boomer and FBD,
What happened to the not so long ago "old days" when we could spar with each other but did so with respect? Soxnole and Beenthere vs FBD and itsrosy. Debating one conference vs another. Now, that was fun. I learned so much by listening to posters on this board long before I felt informed enough to pass it along to others. Boomer, Corky, Fungo and on and on. All men writing with a purpose, a point of view and willing to get into a debate without thinking that their point of view is the only point of view, (except for Soxnole's attitude about Wrigleyville and Ann Sather's!)
It's no secret that my experience with my son's travel baseball doesn't include playing for Deucedoc. But, that doesn't mean that I can't recognize what he does, along with Dan Geisy and the other coaches who give so much of their time to their players. That's what's important to me. I don't care to see a list of someone's 10 yr old all-americans, or to be reading in the Illinois Forum about some stud in California. The Illinois classes of 2005,06 and 07 have put Illinois HS baseball on the map big time. We've got players that don't have to take a back seat to anyone. We may not have as many as Fla, Ca, Georgia but our best can play with their best on any given day. That's my opinion. That's what I thought this board was all about.
What happened to the not so long ago "old days" when we could spar with each other but did so with respect? Soxnole and Beenthere vs FBD and itsrosy. Debating one conference vs another. Now, that was fun. I learned so much by listening to posters on this board long before I felt informed enough to pass it along to others. Boomer, Corky, Fungo and on and on. All men writing with a purpose, a point of view and willing to get into a debate without thinking that their point of view is the only point of view, (except for Soxnole's attitude about Wrigleyville and Ann Sather's!)
It's no secret that my experience with my son's travel baseball doesn't include playing for Deucedoc. But, that doesn't mean that I can't recognize what he does, along with Dan Geisy and the other coaches who give so much of their time to their players. That's what's important to me. I don't care to see a list of someone's 10 yr old all-americans, or to be reading in the Illinois Forum about some stud in California. The Illinois classes of 2005,06 and 07 have put Illinois HS baseball on the map big time. We've got players that don't have to take a back seat to anyone. We may not have as many as Fla, Ca, Georgia but our best can play with their best on any given day. That's my opinion. That's what I thought this board was all about.
Nice 1000th post Rosy.
What I have enjoyed about this board had been learning from those who "have been there" (in Illinois or elsewhere) as parents and of course from all those experts and coaches whose comments have been a gold mine for me.
So many of those people are so much more knowledgeable and experienced than I am and it's easy for me to see who they are. There have been a few others who clearly have no insight but are ambitious about promoting themselves so they find every scrap of useless information they can find that presents them as a big-time organization or expert.
It isn't hard to tell who has useful knowledge and experience and who is pulling off the Wizard of Oz act.
I just hope the Wizard doesn't chase away the real experts and parents whose experience and wit make this a great place to be.
So many of those people are so much more knowledgeable and experienced than I am and it's easy for me to see who they are. There have been a few others who clearly have no insight but are ambitious about promoting themselves so they find every scrap of useless information they can find that presents them as a big-time organization or expert.
It isn't hard to tell who has useful knowledge and experience and who is pulling off the Wizard of Oz act.
I just hope the Wizard doesn't chase away the real experts and parents whose experience and wit make this a great place to be.
rosy I am not so sure that you can really tell that much about a program or coaches unless you have actually played for them. There is a lot of smoke and mirrors in some of the programs.
quote:That list is what is: a listing of the best players in Chicago.
It's not even that. It is a listing of the best players in Chicago whose coaches submitted their names.
In the past, there have been many excellent baseball players who have been left off the list because, for any number of reasons, their coach neglected to submit any names. This includes high school coaches in the Chicago area as well as downstate.
Boomer and Ballfan
I understand all of the points you guys made about these lists and all of the factors involved. I was a division 1 player myself ( way back when ) , so this is coming from first hand experience as well.
We all know at the end of the day what matters most is how our kids perform on the field and in the classroom ...not whos list you are on and whos you are not on.
I guess i was pretty surprised by how far off and incomplete the IHSBCA list of 09s really was. I could understand someone questioning a couple of names missing as was the case with the 07s and 08s here on the board, but not the HUGE number ( 20-25 ) of 09 players that are omitted. If they are going to post a list these coaches should do their homework and at least come close to getting it right or dont do it at all. I assume people actually view these lists to try to get a grasp of who the top players are and for who to look for this upcoming season ? Thats the main point i was trying to make...not so much about the recognition factor. JMO
I understand all of the points you guys made about these lists and all of the factors involved. I was a division 1 player myself ( way back when ) , so this is coming from first hand experience as well.
We all know at the end of the day what matters most is how our kids perform on the field and in the classroom ...not whos list you are on and whos you are not on.
I guess i was pretty surprised by how far off and incomplete the IHSBCA list of 09s really was. I could understand someone questioning a couple of names missing as was the case with the 07s and 08s here on the board, but not the HUGE number ( 20-25 ) of 09 players that are omitted. If they are going to post a list these coaches should do their homework and at least come close to getting it right or dont do it at all. I assume people actually view these lists to try to get a grasp of who the top players are and for who to look for this upcoming season ? Thats the main point i was trying to make...not so much about the recognition factor. JMO
Jake Smolinski not on the list.
quote:There have been a few others who clearly have no insight but are ambitious about promoting themselves so they find every scrap of useless information they can find that presents them as a big-time organization or expert.
It isn't hard to tell who has useful knowledge and experience and who is pulling off the Wizard of Oz act.
I just hope the Wizard doesn't chase away the real experts and parents whose experience and wit make this a great place to be.
Fastball, If the adults that post here are genuinely here to have a beneficial impact on discussions and help the kids, why then would they abandon that? It seems a bit self-serving or self righteous to disappear over the presence or postings by someone else. If that is in fact true. If someone chooses to enter into spirited debate or simply ignore a post is the great feature here. To simply take the ball and go home, just doesn't seem good either. Who are the "real" experts?
Sulltiger,
You make some good points. I think the name has something to do with the perception problem. The inference being that Illinois HS coaches put that together, when in reality it's a very small number of Illinois HS coaches from the chicagoland area.
The other issue we hear is that if you register with the club you get a pick or two. I wonder if that assertion can be countered? Did any coach in the club vote and not get a player on the list?
You make some good points. I think the name has something to do with the perception problem. The inference being that Illinois HS coaches put that together, when in reality it's a very small number of Illinois HS coaches from the chicagoland area.
The other issue we hear is that if you register with the club you get a pick or two. I wonder if that assertion can be countered? Did any coach in the club vote and not get a player on the list?
quote:Originally posted by Ibach:
Fastball, If the adults that post here are genuinely here to have a beneficial impact on discussions and help the kids, why then would they abandon that? It seems a bit self-serving or self righteous to disappear over the presence or postings by someone else.
Ibach,
Having started, run and monitored a message board for several years, I can say with certainty, that regardless of the altruistic reasons people show up, a few people can drive the experts away. To deny that is simply ignorance of the reality of the system.
It's not self serving, it's self preservation. When it ceases to be fun, or when others purporting themselves to be experts that truly don't have the experience send mixed signals, people walk away because they don't see the benefit for either them or the others.
I can understand why some would feel that way about you. At times it seems you have developed diarrhea of the keyboard and are too willing to offer guidance where none was sought.
JMHO, but some restraint on your part may speak volumes.
Just sharing the benefit of my limited experience.
jarthr, funny your asking about Jake, actually he was missed on this board and other list's by all the "experts" for quite a while. So I guess many people get missed by the "experts" that make up the lists.
"who" are the "experts" and how are they "missed"?
no expert here, but i did say this awhile ago
i just counted his name at least ten times in the illinois forum
no expert here, but i did say this awhile ago
quote:Originally posted by Fungo Master:
congrats to the team, heard many great things on how things went for the week. hearing Jake Smolinski has proven he is the best prospect in Illinois.
i just counted his name at least ten times in the illinois forum
A few things:
Information that helps people is what this board is all about in addition to just having fun. Not complaining about that stuff.......but as CPLZ said.....the "Diarrhea" makes it tiring and that is what will drive people away.
The IHSBCA list is dated. There are missing kids and kids who have not lived up to that status, but they were put on the list a few years ago adn there they still are. No big deal. Many many coaches do not participate and those that do dominate the list with multiple players. These lists are what they are....lists and nothing more. I love the PBR, but I have seen some kids on the "on the cusp" list who no longer even were playing. So what. Not easy to know what is happening everywhere. They are just lists.
Information that helps people is what this board is all about in addition to just having fun. Not complaining about that stuff.......but as CPLZ said.....the "Diarrhea" makes it tiring and that is what will drive people away.
The IHSBCA list is dated. There are missing kids and kids who have not lived up to that status, but they were put on the list a few years ago adn there they still are. No big deal. Many many coaches do not participate and those that do dominate the list with multiple players. These lists are what they are....lists and nothing more. I love the PBR, but I have seen some kids on the "on the cusp" list who no longer even were playing. So what. Not easy to know what is happening everywhere. They are just lists.
Fungo, I remember your quote, but again it took a while for him to make the list's. When he was a freshman hitting 380-400 foot bombs he was way back on many list's if there at all. I never forgot him since he was playing for a rockford travel team and was worth watching back then, way before anyone's list. Here is another name that was brought up early last spring or so and someone made fun of the post, his name was Austin Wright and it was mentioned he threw 90 off the hill with great presence. The comment I remember was if he is a lefty soph throwing 90 then the entire world would know about him, well at that time he wasn't on the list.
quote:Originally posted by blazer25:quote:On this last topic: if all kids in the magazine attended PBR showcases, then I'd have a summer home in some exotic place, like Waukesha. I do not, unfortunately
What the heck is that supposed to mean?
sounds like a great place to have a tavern
WAUKESHA, Wis. (AP) - A mail carrier had a blood-alcohol level nearly four times the legal limit when he was arrested for driving his delivery truck into oncoming traffic and crashing into a sign, police said.
Thomas Lahiff was incoherent Friday when he returned to the post office, where he was arrested about an hour after the crash, Police Capt. Mike Babe said. He said tests showed the 46-year-old's blood-alcohol level was 0.31 percent.
Lahiff now faces a drunken driving charge and was ticketed for hit-and-run causing property damage, Babe said. Police said Lahiff's postal truck had crossed into oncoming traffic, jumped a curb and hit a ``no parking'' sign. It happened about an hour before he returned to the post office, and it's not clear where he was in the meantime, Babe said.
Postal Service spokeswoman JoAnne Blackburn said Lahiff was involved in an accident and would not be delivering mail pending an investigation, but she would not elaborate.
Fastball, I don't consider myself a complainer. I have tried to bring some good topics to the forum. Some topics spark debate, some just state facts, others are intended to educate (arm injuries). I am no expert, just trying to fit in and be a productive contributor. I think this site is tremendous, all the forums and threads, it's just great for the kids and parents as well.
Ibach, there is no voting for the IHSBCA list that is put out each year. The kids that you put up for the prospect list are included in that listing. However, there are a group of people in the organization, along with scouts, college coaches that have some input on the creme of the crop list. As a coach, if you feel you have a prospect, then you submit the name. Some wait until they have proven themselves in HS, others decide to put the name up early on reputation. The important thing to understand is that the list is not specific to any level of play. Some of the kids are "prospects" for D1 programs and some may be "prospects" for a D3 program. If a kid has the desire, ability, and motivation to play at the next level, whatever level that is, than in my book he is a prospect. My concern and admiration for my kids is not focused on what level of baseball he may play. It is centered around his ability to succeed at the college level.
I have been a mostly silent observer on this site for a couple years and I haven't always agreed with alot of things but at least it was fun and interesting. Since the emergence of (fill in blank), this forum has become unbearable. Someon can say the sky is blue. Two minutes later (fill in the blank) will dispute the fact and question what Gods intent was of making sky a color.
Enough. Thanks for the memories.
Enough. Thanks for the memories.
Ballfan, Thanks for your input.
I have a better undertanding of that list now.
I have a better undertanding of that list now.
IBACH
Your profile says you are a Regional Director--- of what and for whom?---just curious
Your profile says you are a Regional Director--- of what and for whom?---just curious
Ibach....didn't call you a complainer.
Ibach,
This is not, and never will be, the equivalent of an AOL chatroom. The individuals who have provided content here have experienced the gamut of HS baseball from the early years thru college recruiting and beyond. This site is like a nice, comfy couch that one can relax on, choose to participate in or just listen (read) and learn. We have both dialogue and debate, and certainly have our moments of disagreement and rancor. But, we've never experienced (except last year) the equivalent of a 'Noreaster blow in and overwhelm the forum with volumes of unnecessary drivel.
I have to say the the comments by FBD, Joemoms and CPLZ are right on. Ibach, a wise man once told me to take my fingers out of my ears and stick 'em in my mouth. I don't always follow my own advice, but I'm trying. Why don't you do the same?
This is not, and never will be, the equivalent of an AOL chatroom. The individuals who have provided content here have experienced the gamut of HS baseball from the early years thru college recruiting and beyond. This site is like a nice, comfy couch that one can relax on, choose to participate in or just listen (read) and learn. We have both dialogue and debate, and certainly have our moments of disagreement and rancor. But, we've never experienced (except last year) the equivalent of a 'Noreaster blow in and overwhelm the forum with volumes of unnecessary drivel.
I have to say the the comments by FBD, Joemoms and CPLZ are right on. Ibach, a wise man once told me to take my fingers out of my ears and stick 'em in my mouth. I don't always follow my own advice, but I'm trying. Why don't you do the same?
Itsrosy, I've said this in pms but I'd like to take the opportunity to state in public that I think you are THE BEST! You have such a way of saying things. Yes, a comfy couch! I remember when I first joined, I had to be right all of the time. Win all of the arguments. Be the authority. Then, I realized it wasn't about that. Rather, it was a bunch of posters who shared some common ground, really enjoyed the game, and were people that I'd spend time on a Friday or Saturday night with because I chose to. Thanks Rosie!!!