Pro vs College question

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Hey Tiger Mom. I know for a fact that you know all about agentts and advisors. How many have you had? Find one that see's it like you yet?

That was a pretty mean thing to say. If you are one sided in your beliefs then you will never learn from others who don't always agree with you. Try to keep an open mind

This is always an interesting topic of discussion, though it's too bad when the discussion gets a bit rude. Thank you bbscout for always being a voice of reason and very professional. Your depth of experience and your comments here are really appreciated.

The one point that I keep agreeing with throughout the arguments back and forth is that it is a very personal decision and each player needs to decide what his priorities are.

What is your favorite food? I may be allergic to it. What is my favorite food? You may hate it!

What is your dream career? Oh, that sounds boring to me! What is the best job I've ever had? That sounds like torture to you!

There are adults who chose careers because they paid well and ended up bored and unhappy. Others chose a career that was their passion, like medicine or law, and just happened to make very good money at it. How would anyone looking from the outside know how that person arrived at their career decision, money or love?

How important is it to go to college right after high school and earn that degree? I earned a BA right after HS and have always worked in professional jobs, but never one that was directly related to my degree. My husband earned his degree in his 30s while we had two very young children and we were both working fulltime, and his degree directly earned him his current career which is an excellent fit for him and also pays well. My son is a 20-yr-old RHP who didn't really think college was right for him, but went anyway because he wanted to play college baseball. He is now halfway through his college baseball "career" and almost halfway to his degree. Let's say in a few years he was offered the following choice of careers:

$100,000/yr as a computer programmer or business manager,
$50,000/yr as a college baseball coach, or
$10,000/yr (or less) to play minor league baseball.

I know the order in which he would choose:
#1 = $10K play baseball
#2 = $50K coach baseball
#3 = $100K any non-baseball desk job

Does that make him noble for having a dream and not caring about money - or foolish? Does it make your son greedy if his choice of the jobs would be the reverse order - or wise?

It's a very personal choice, and what is right for one person is not right for another. I know that's been said before...

Right or wrong should not even enter the equation...it's stictly a personal decision based on an "individuals" desire, priorities and goals in life. Because an accountant may have had an opportunity to be a financial advisor or stock broker, does it make his decision to be an accountant wrong or bad... No, it's what HE wanted out of life and something HE was comfortable with.

I also believe kids coming out of H.S. are well aware of the slim odds of ever making it to the big show...since I can't imagine it's a kids desire to be a career minor leaguer, there is likely to be some doubt in the back of their minds about going pro which may also play into their decision making. Thus many will opt for the college education and experience which also allows them to play the game they love on an
even higher level and whatever happens beyond that is gravy in their eyes. JMHO

My son is still young (heading into his junior year) and has always had the goal of playing professionally. Not sure if it will happen for him but if a he is offered an opportunity to play pro and accepts the offer, and part of the offer includes college tuition, is it possible for a player to attend any college classes at all during the years he is playing minor league ball? I thought that I had heard somewhere that the possibility existed to complete a few credit hours each year.

THE EH, if the DNF player chooses to attend the D1, which by the way happens all the time, then that DNF player would no longer be a DNF player. The club that drafted him would loose his rights when he walked into that first D1 class. Now that DNF player who is no longer a DNF player would not be elgible for the draft until after his Junior year at that D1.

FloridaFan, most young players that sign a pro contract prefer to spend their off seasons working out and lifting. When the minor league season is over in the 1st week of September most guys come home for a few weeks then head to instructional league. It varies for each club and a few don't even have an instructional program anymore. But, with todays technology you can take courses on line or you can take courses at a institution of higher learning that operates on the quarter system. You could take a full course load in that winter quarter.

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Originally posted by Vance34:
THE EH, if the DNF player chooses to attend the D1, which by the way happens all the time, then that DNF player would no longer be a DNF player. The club that drafted him would loose his rights when he walked into that first D1 class. Now that DNF player who is no longer a DNF player would not be elgible for the draft until after his Junior year at that D1.

I thought (at a D-1) it was after junior year - or 21 years old - whichever comes first.

???

Itsinthegame, thats correct. The rule is that any player is elgible if his birthday falls on a date before or within 45 days of the completion of that years draft.

Example: Draft is June 6 and 7. Said players birth date is July 10 of the same year. If that was his 21st birthday then he would be elgible for the draft that just happened the month before.

I think as long as he turns 21 before or within 45 days after the draft he can be drafted.

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Originally posted by HowUbe:
I think as long as he turns 21 before or within 45 days after the draft he can be drafted.

Sorry, Vance has already stated the 45 days requirement.

I'd say the best bet is to go to college to develop skills more and then advance in pro.

If you don't have a college degree and you set out to play pro ball, what if a career-ending injury happens? what will be the source of income?

just my 2 cents

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Originally posted by ahs_bb '09:
I'd say the best bet is to go to college to develop skills more and then advance in pro.

If you don't have a college degree and you set out to play pro ball, what if a career-ending injury happens? what will be the source of income?



just my 2 cents

What if you get a career ending injury early in college? Hopefully you can pay to finish your education.

The MLB scholarship allows you to chase your dream and have college paid for in case of the career ending inury. I know a lot of kids don't use it but that's on them.

I also feel that after a few years on the road, sleeping in hotels after high school might help you grow up and decide what you really want to do after baseball.

Just my opinion though

Vance, to revisit this topic, let me restate my prior question and see if you'll answer it this time.

Did Andrew Miller make a mistake when he did not sign out of high school?

His "slot money" might've been as much as $800,000 then.

After three years enjoying college, he just got a minimum of $3.5 million, a guaranteed Sept. callup, and opportunities to earn millions more.

Maybe he gambled a bit on not getting an arm injury over the past 3 years. But if he gambled, it sure looks to me like he won big.

Basically, over the past three years he got an education, a trip to Omaha, and an additional $2.7 mill plus incentives and perks. Name me one kid who signed out of high school who got that much out of his first three years in the minors.

Andrew Miller also played two years on the cape and received honors for that and BA's College Player of the Year.
He is certainly did well for himself going to college first.
His height, his velocity, projectibility and being left handed didn't hurt either.

Midlo, you have a very valid point. Again, I have not put either choice in a negative lite. I merely said " If its about the money, go to school" Obviously it was about the money to Miller. Thats why he went to school.

Now let me ask you this. If Miller would have signed, he may have already been in the big leagues. Sure he is getting a September call up. But will he pitch? He can also go right back to A ball next spring too.

I do not have an issue with going to school, I went to school first! Again, I merely said if your sole purpose is to sign for ALOT of money then you should go to school. I also said if your sole purpose is to try and become a big leaguer then sign the contract. Thats all I said. Don't read anymore into it than that.

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Name me one kid who signed out of high school who got that much out of his first three years in the minors.

Midlo, The list is long! Wonder how much money Griffey Jr has in his bank account? and wonder what a college degree would do for him financially? and wonder if he would prefer a Major League World Series or a college world series? Wonder what Robin Yount would say?

Look the list are long for both. Again, I have no issue other than if your intentions are to attend school and thats the bottom line then don't wait till the draft to tell someone. Tell that important piece of information in January. Thats all I would like.

One thing I see is an alarming number of arm problems/injuries for these kids be it out of HS or College.

Verlander just had to sit and he had acknwledged arm problems coming out of college

Look at Prior and Wood !!!

Are we rushing these kids to the bigs?---are they ready for the work and innings involved before they get their bodies ready for it ?

I am with you on this one TR. That's why, especially for a pitcher, it is a personal decision, as is the decision as to where you will play in college and what type of training and conditioning program you will be on while in college. And I don't get the philosophy of two way players in college, that's a killer if you ask me. Many of these pitchers were throwing mid-high 90's in college, HS with curveballs and sliders.
The pitfalls of a college pitcher, if you are good, is a heavy workload. Verlander, I do beleive had a huge workload in college, as did many others. I see the workload of some college pitchers, well over 100 innings in a season and then onto summer ball, back to work in fall practice, it takes a toll after a while.
Same for HS pitchers with heavy and frequent workloads and the pitches they throw.

This (pro or college choice out of HS) is an issue that many kids face one time. There is not a wrong answer. Some of the answers may have to do with the value of an education, or perhaps signing for bonus money, the desire to play college baseball, etc. What one kid decides to do may not be right for the neighbor kid, but that doesn't mean it is wrong.

The realities of being a pitcher means that at some point there will be health issues with the arm, whether that be elbow or shoulder.

The Verlander situation is not related at all to injury or soreness.....Leyland said he had planned to do this, especially with the big lead in the standings. Verlander's quote following his last game, regarding his arm, was that it felt the "best it had in a long time." You can expect Leyland to do it again with Verlander, Robertson, Bonderman, and even Miner again at least once more before the playoffs begin.

Leyland is trying to make sure his pitchers remain healthy....similar to what my son's college coach has done.......he hasn't thrown more than 100 pitches in a college game yet in almost fifty appearances, including several starts.

http://www.pgcrosschecker.com/draft/dr_06_06_29_signingbonuses.aspx


Click the above URL site and tell me what you think board. I'll let you be the judge and will remain mutual and unbiased. My wife says it's a no-brainer peace, Shep

PS-I couldn't resist. Don't know about ya'll, but I could pay for several college educations in top ten round money for most draft and signs I see here on PG Cross-Checkers list.

So much for the theory I have heard here which says, "only the top few picks are getting any worthwhile bonus money". Looking at this years drafts and actual signs, that appears to be a huge monetary misconception.
Peace Shep

Shep,
Again, you keep bringing up the money issue with the bonus bucks. Very few get rich from signing bonus, we all know the big $$ come later on, when and if you do make it. And signing bonus' are WAY down from what tehy used to be, the result, more and more going to college first, because it is a lot about the signing bonus to them and their parents.

How about this scenerio, which could be a very USUAL one. A HS player drafted in the 14th round, gets 140K, his college education would have been paid mostly by a great scholarship, to top 10 school. I haven't heard or seen his name mentioned once in three years, if he had gone to college you would know who he is, he was a top ranked player in HS. Good choice?

Obviously for HIM it was, he wanted to go pro more than go to college (this was not a pitcher by the way but a hitter who could have gotten his at bats in college), but for others, may not be the right choice.

Don't continue to place a price tag on it. Go back and read Gratefuls first paragraph.

And why would you have to pay for a college education when there is the MLB scholarship program, a good selling point for going pro, right?

College vs. pro is about knowing what you really want to do, though for a HS player never away from home may be difficult. It's important to talk about it early and NOT string others along until your name is called. If you really want to go pro and work, SIGN. But if you also want to go pro and earn most of your degree, experience college life and the college baseball experience, it CAN be accomplished just by seeing how many players ARE drafted out of college.

Discussion is good, always. It's important for parents and player to know the issues on both sides of the coin toss. However, this Is NOT a MLB or minor league website, this is a site where most of our players WILL go to college first. FYI, we didn't even have a thread for pro players, but many of the parents who first came here many moons ago, have college players who have gone pro.

I look upon the scout the same as a college recruiter, they are BOTH salesman, one selling their school the other selling his team. Each tends to leave out lots of the particulars in the visit. If it wasn't so confusing, people wouldn't be here asking questions. I found MOST scouts to be more up front than some college recruiters, but only because we had done our homework asked questions and I did here on teh HSBBW. MANY players I know who turned down going pro was NOT because they really wanted to go to college, but because they didn't get offered what they felt they were worth. A FEW players I know turned down really BIG money because they really wanted to go to college first.
That's why we have the HSBBW, so some of us can give information (not all good, not all bad) for those that have questions. I as a PARENT with a son who had to make a tough decision will always tell someone, if asked, the good and the bad on both sides. For mine, the college experience is turning out to be a great one and he is happy. I am sure if he had gone pro out of HS he would be happy as well. Did we want him to go to college first, yes, he was a very good student, if things would have been different, a fair student who didn't do well with a lesser oportunity, most probably he would have been drafted in the 6th, 7th round and signed. So I am NOT entirely PRO college, just want to let parents know there is an upside and a downside to any decision their son will make.

JMO

TPM says

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College vs. pro is about knowing what you really want to do, though for a HS player never away from home may be difficult. If you really want to go pro and work, SIGN. But if you really want to go pro and earn most of your degree, experience college life and the college baseball eperience, it CAN be accomplished just by seeing how many players ARE drafted out of college.

Shep says Why risk losing bonus money offered on table now due to injury or stock going down while living college life and having to fullfill rigorous academic responsibilities. Let's face it, a great many student athletes are there for many other reasons with all the fraternities and campus life all around them. Why receive a degree and go through grueling and competetive interviews against hundreds of others for a job with no guarantee of even getting it if you don't have to. There is no guarantee of financial security upon graduation. Why go through the pain and hardship of passing up a lifetime of wages for many when it's right there lined up on the table in front of you. Imagine this, a 17-18 yr old draftee with 10,000 one-hundred dollar bills lined up in front of him being offered by a professional MLB team when he has depended on mom and dad all his life. He has an opportunity to give back to his parents and have a self-supporting life of his own. Family of his own with a lifetime of wages to get started with. You can't beat that! Isn't this the AMERICAN DREAMwe have all come to know and strive to achieve?? Turning down a lifetime of wages(MLB Substantial Bonus) is like winning a lottery and not claiming the prize if you turn it down if you are not already wealthy.

Go back up to my earlier post and click URL again for top ten rounds as a reminder.

I can give you dozens of examples of student/athlete college grads I know who have been interviewing with no success in finding job. These are good quality people I'm speaking of here who didn't party in college but didn't get a chance to even play baseball professionally as a late-rounder or sign as a free agent. Why not get the financial security for your "life" while you can?? Just think about the following: wife, kids, house, bank account, job, help my mom get a dishwasher or maybe even buy her a house for all she has done...Don't deny yourself this ONCE IN A LIFETIME OPPORTUNITY if that chance comes, take it! You can finance that 4 or 5 years of being a lifetime college student with no promises later with the interest from your bonus . Shep's .02

Ahh, what financiaL OPPORTUNITY? Most DO NOT MAKE IT TO THE SHOW. MOST do not get 10,000, 100 hundred dollar bills to spend, only a select few.

I am not talking about turning down the BIG bonus here Shep, I are talking about way less than that, in case you didn't read my post.

Shep

Fact is most kids who have the college deal in their contract never go back to college and thus the pro team saves all that money--there is time limit for the player is there not?

Fact is you are a supposed scout and you get paid if the player signs--ergo the "sign son attitude"

Once in a lifetime opportunity---hogwash--the same can be said for a Division I scholarship which enables 17 year old players to mature at a normal pace---Yes there players who are not interested in college but is their thing, perhaps they are not students-- most kids that are draft picks have the choice -- pro or college-- I know how I feel about it but that is me---

I do not agree with your logic, not in the very least

Look at this --why do we have so many facilties run by "ex pro players"/ They never went back to college and will be running facilities for the rest of their life--you say this a good thing ?

I say unless the money is "life changing", I didnt create that term, then you go to college---what is "life changing" is different for each individual player/family

To say it is a once in a lifetime opportunity is wrong, totally wrong !!!!


Do you have a college education ?
How do you earn a living when you are not employed bu a team or the bureau?

Simple questions but yet important?

TR

Yes I have a college education that I completed after being released from professional baseball and I also teach school and received Masters while teaching school. This all came "after" pro ball. As I told you in our phone call, I would appreciate anonymity but guess what, you didn't do that. Why am I not surprised? As I mentioned to you in our conversation, I am not on payroll with the bureau and only help a full-time bureau scout who I have known through the Orioles when I helped another full-time Oriole scout for over 10 years while teaching in GA. Are we all clear on that now? I am an associate but that's about to change, this week. But thanks for commenting, good to know.

TPM

I don't look at this opportunity for a HS draftee to sign as a financial opportunity but let's get realistic.
We're talking about no student loans and being independent for a life of your own unless you have money already which in that case you have the choice to roll the dice. Yea sure, it worked out for Andrew Miller, he was the exception and the planets aligned for his career. Many others never get another chance after HS to sign for higher bonuses and very few increase there value as Miller did.

Peace and Good Night,
Shep

My son has been in the top 10 rounds (twice) so I have had to ponder this, research the odds, and put a pencil to it to try to make it work. I have to agree with TPM; not enough money to give up all college has to offer --- but again that is only one person's opinion. I would never tell you it’s a “no brainer” but I will challenge you to do your homework. Having been around a few minor league players the past few years I see where many of these players are spending their signing bonuses and their spending habits don't seem to jive with someone that is preparing to start (or finish) a college education in a few years. Consider too that college is a "lifestyle" that is tailor made for the 18 year old student athlete just coming out of high school instead of a 25 year old ex-minor league ball player that may be married with a family. Again I can accept a player signing out of high school OR a player going to college but we need to look at what typically happens to players, to signing bonuses, and to college educations and allow that historical data to help us decide what route “we” should take. All I ask is each player look at the dollars offered and realize what you are getting and what you are giving up for that dollar amount.
Fungo

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Fact is you are a supposed scout and you get paid if the player signs--ergo the "sign son attitude"

TR hit, Told you this before! Scouts don't get paid when they sign a player. ALL SCOUTS work on SALARY!

WE have so many facilities run by ex players because there are so many adults who will pay them to use those facilities. It is A BUSINESS just like any other business. Doesn't mater what the business is. Have you looked on the corners lately. There are as many different businesses out there as there is opinions. Weren't you in a business tr hit?

IF YOU MAKE IT ABOUT MONEY>>>>>>go to school.

IF YOU MAKE IT ABOUT OPPROTUNITY>>>>go pro.

bottom line. Just stick to your choice and never look back and make the most of the choice you made.

Vance

Your closing line is the best thing you have said yet !!!!!

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TR hit, Told you this before! Scouts don't get paid when they sign a player. ALL SCOUTS work on SALARY!

All scouts don't work on salary and I can give you about five examples right here on this HSBBW messageboard who are also associates for MLB teams and make there money other ways as I do. TR just loves to post. Look at how many he has

I will not let this thread consume my life today but would like to respond respectfully to Fungo's response.

Fungo, who you kidding? I realize you have an impeccable image here and everybody thinks you hung the moon maybe I do too for the most part, but, I respectfully have rebuttal sir.

What business is it of anybody's what a person does with there signing bonus money?? Who made "us" judge of what a person does or doesn't do in spending habits with there own hard-earned money?? That would be like telling a self-made millionaire..."hey, I don't think you should buy this or that"...give me a break.

In the case of these minor league players you have been around which I certainly do not doubt or cast a shadow on credibilty towards. I believe this is probably the first time many of them have ever had money and you can thank MLB for that occuring. They have been given a stake in life and can drive to the parks, instead of walk. They can spend their own money, instead of beg from mom and dad. They can afford a date, instead of getting left behind at the college dorm. They can have a sense of belonging, instead of being a part of the "have nots". Should I continue? I think everybody gets the gist so I won't but to respond to your request of research. LOW337 started you a thread to look at some stats last night in this forum. Check it out, you may be surprised. My take on what your saying Fungo is there is no amount of money worth by-passing the joys of college and what college has to offer Can you further expound on what the pro draftee and sign is missing out on??? Also, can you also please explain what happens to the college-athlete after this 4-5 year party?? One more thing, can you also tell me where the spending dough is gonna come from when he has absolutely no bargaining power as a college senior if the pros are still interested in the college senior at that point?? Help me understand Fungo since your so quick to side with TPM. Are you two going to take care of the ones who choose college over pro that are flat broke with around 50 thousand dollars of student loans after college?? Just kidding in the "real world" and ultimately the "real world" is centered around a monetary system which requires money to pay for a home or rent, buy groceries and pay the other sometimes very burdensome and numerous bills. You know, like the ones that come from son in college or a car note of a son who is at the campus. Just food for thought and like Vance said, if it's about the opportunity, sign and play pro. I would like to add while at the same time enjoying the trimmings of independence given to you. Don't sign if your only in it for the money. You can get the best of both worlds. peace, Shep

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DRAFT 2006
SIGNING BONUSES, Top 10 Rounds
FIRST ROUND
1 Royals Luke Hochevar RHP $3,500,000
2 Rockies Greg Reynolds RHP $3,250,000
3 Devil Rays Evan Longoria 3B $3,000,000
4 Pirates Brad Lincoln RHP $2,750,000
5 Mariners Brandon Morrow RHP $2,450,000
6 Tigers Andrew Miller LHP $3,550,000
7 Dodgers Clayton Kershaw LHP $2,300,000
8 Reds Drew Stubbs OF $2,000,000
9 Orioles Billy Rowell SS $2,100,000
10 Giants Tim Lincecum RHP $2,025,000
11 Diamondbacks Max Scherzer RHP Unsigned
12 Rangers Kasey Kiser LHP $1,600,000
13 Cubs Tyler Colvin OF $1,475,000
14 Blue Jays Travis Snider OF $1,700,000
15 Nationals Chris Marrero 3B $1,625,000
16 Brewers Jeremy Jeffress RHP $1,550,000
17 Padres Matt Antonelli 3B $1,575,000
18 Phillies Kyle Drabek RHP 1,550,000
19 Marlins Brett Sinkbeil RHP $1,525,000
20 Twins Chris Parmelee OF $1,500,000
21 Yankees Ian Kennedy RHP $2,250,000
22 Nationals Colton Willems RHP $1,425,000
23 Astros Max Sapp C $1,400,000
24 Braves Cody Johnson OF $1,375,000
25 Angels Hank Conger C $1,350,000
26 Dodgers Bryan Morris RHP $1,325,000
27 Red Sox Jason Place OF $1,300,000
28 Red Sox Daniel Bard RHP Unsigned
29 White Sox Kyle McCulloch RHP $1,050,000
30 Cardinals Adam Ottavino RHP $950,000
FIRST ROUND SUPPLEMENTAL
31 Dodgers Preston Mattingly SS $1,000,000
32 Orioles Pedro Beato RHP $1,000,000
33 Giants Emmanuel Burriss SS $1,000,000
34 Diamondbacks Brooks Brown RHP $900,000
35 Padres Kyler Burke OF $950,000
36 Marlins Chris Coghlan 3B $950,000
37 Phillies Adrian Cardenas SS $925,000
38 Braves Cory Rasmus RHP $900,000
39 Indians David Huff LHP $900,000
40 Red Sox Kris Johnson LHP $850,000
41 Yankees Joba Chamberlain RHP Unsigned
42 Cardinals Chris Perez RHP $800,000
43 Braves Steve Evarts LHP $800,000
44 Red Sox Caleb Clay RHP $775,000
SECOND ROUND
45 Royals Jason Taylor SS $762,500
46 Rockies David Christensen OF $750,000
47 Devil Rays Josh Butler RHP $725,000
48 Pirates Mike Felix LHP $725,000
49 Mariners Chris Tillman RHP $680,000
50 Tigers Ronnie Bourquin 3B $690,000
51 Braves Jeff Locke LHP $675,000
52 Reds Sean Watson RHP $670,000
53 Padres Chad Huffman 1B $660,000
54 Cardinals Brad Furnish LHP $600,000
55 Diamondbacks Brett Anderson LHP Unsigned
56 Indians Steven Wright RHP $630,000
57 Indians Josh Rodriguez 3B $625,000
58 Orioles Ryan Adams SS $675,000
59 Nationals Sean Black RHP Unsigned
60 Brewers Brent Brewer SS $600,000
61 Padres Wade LeBlanc LHP $590,000
62 Mets Kevin Mulvey RHP Unsigned
63 Marlins Tom Hickman OF $575,000
64 Twins Joe Benson OF $575,000
65 Phillies Andrew Carpenter RHP $570,000
66 Athletics Trevor Cahill RHP $560,000
67 Astros Sergio Perez RHP $550,000
68 Braves Dustin Evans RHP $530,000
69 Indians Wes Hodges 3B $1,000,000
70 Nationals Stephen Englund SS $515,000
71 Red Sox Justin Masterson RHP $510,000
72 Braves Chase Fontaine SS $500,000
73 White Sox Matt Long RHP $330,000
74 Cardinals Jon Jay OF $480,000
SECOND ROUND SUPPLEMENTAL
75 Indians Matt McBride C $445,000
76 Cardinals Mark Hamilton 1B $465,000
THIRD ROUND
77 Royals Blake Wood RHP $460,000
78 Rockies Keith Weiser LHP $455,000
79 Devil Rays Nick Fuller RHP Unsigned
80 Pirates Shelby Ford 2B $450,000
81 Mariners Tony Butler LHP $445,000
82 Tigers Brennan Boesch OF $445,000
83 Red Sox Aaron Bates 1B $440,000
84 Reds Chris Valaika SS $437,500
85 Orioles Zach Britton LHP $435,000
86 Diamondbacks Dallas Buck RHP $250,000
87 Diamondbacks Cyle Hankerd OF $430,000
88 Rangers Chad Tracy C $427,500
89 Giants Clayton Tanner LHP $425,000
90 Marlins Torre Langley C $422,500
91 Nationals Stephen King SS Unsigned
92 Brewers Cole Gillespie OF $417,500
93 Padres Cedric Hunter OF $415,000
94 Mets Joe Smith RHP $410,000
95 Marlins Scott Cousins OF $407,500
96 Twins Tyler Robertson LHP $405,500
97 Phillies Jason Donald SS $400,000
98 Athletics Matt Sulentic OF $395,000
99 Astros Nick Moresi OF $390,000
100 Braves Chad Rodgers LHP $385,000
101 Indians Adam Davis SS $380,000
102 Angels Russ Moldenhauer OF Unsigned
103 Red Sox Bryce Cox RHP $250,000
104 Yankees Zach McAllister RHP $368,000
105 White Sox Justin Edwards LHP $310,000
106 Cardinals Gary Daley RHP $325,000
FOURTH ROUND
107 Royals Derrick Robinson OF $850,000
108 Rockies Craig Baker RHP $265,000
109 Devil Rays Alex Cobb RHP SIGNED
110 Pirates Jared Hughes RHP $305,000
111 Mariners Ricky Orta RHP $270,000
112 Tigers Ryan Strieby 1B $295,000
113 Dodgers Kyle Orr 1B Unsigned
114 Reds Justin Reed OF $287,000
115 Orioles Blake Davis SS $282,500
116 Giants Ben Snyder LHP $280,000
117 Diamondbacks Bryant Thompson RHP $225,500
118 Rangers Marcus Lemon SS $1,000,000
119 Twins Whit Robbins 1B $265,000
120 Blue Jays Brandon Magee RHP $155,000
121 Nationals Glenn Gibson LHP Unsigned
122 Brewers Evan Anundsen RHP $282,000
123 Padres Nate Culp LHP $257,500
124 Mets John Holdzkom RHP $210,000
125 Marlins Hector Correa RHP $252,000
126 Twins Garrett Olson 3B $250,000
127 Phillies D'Arby Myers OF $250,000
128 Athletics Chad Lee RHP $245,000
129 Astros Chris Johnson 1B $242,500
130 Braves Lee Hyde LHP $235,000
131 Indians Ryan Morris LHP $500,000
132 Angels Clay Fuller OF $227,500
133 Red Sox Jon Still C $225,000
134 Yankees Colin Curtis OF $450,000
135 White Sox Tyler Reves C $160,000
136 Cardinals Eddie Degerman RHP $100,000
FIFTH ROUND
137 Royals Jason Godin RHP $210,000
138 Rockies Helder Velazquez SS $209,000
139 Devil Rays Shawn O'Malley SS $200,000
140 Pirates Patrick Bresnehan RHP $202,500
141 Mariners Nathan Adcock RHP $200,000
142 Tigers Scott Sizemore 2B $197,500
143 Dodgers Kyle Smit RHP $175,000
144 Reds Josh Ravin RHP $200,000
145 Orioles Tyler Henson SS $185,000
146 Giants Michael McBryde OF $180,000
147 Diamondbacks Hector Ambriz RHP $160,000
148 Rangers Chris Davis 1B $172,500
149 Cubs Jeff Samardzija RHP $7,250,000
150 Blue Jays Luke Hopkins 1B $172,500
151 Nationals Cory VanAllen LHP $170,500
152 Brewers Chris Errecart OF $166,000
153 Padres Andy Underwood RHP $167,500
154 Mets Stephen Holmes RHP $168,000
155 Marlins Chris Hatcher C $167,000
156 Twins Devin Shepherd OF Unsigned
157 Phillies Quentin Berry OF $165,000
158 Athletics Jermaine Mitchell OF $155,000
159 Astros Casey Hudspeth RHP $163,000
160 Braves Kevin Gunderson LHP $162,000
161 Indians Chris Archer RHP $161,000
162 Angels Ken Herndon RHP $157,500
163 Red Sox Dustin Richardson LHP $107,000
164 Yankees George Kontos RHP $158,000
165 White Sox John Shelby 2B $157,000
166 Cardinals Shane Robinson OF $175,000
SIXTH ROUND
167 Royals Harold Mozingo RHP $165,000
168 Rockies Kevin Clark OF $150,000
169 Devil Rays Nevin Ashley C $150,000
170 Pirates Jim Negrych 2B $150,000
171 Mariners Adam Moore C $140,000
172 Tigers Jordan Newton C $155,000
173 Dodgers Garrett White LHP $110,000
174 Reds Jordan Smith RHP $152,500
175 Orioles Jason Berken RHP $155,000
176 Giants Ryan Rohlinger SS $40,000
177 Diamondbacks Joey Side OF $145,000
178 Rangers Jacob Brigham RHP $200,000
179 Cubs Josh Lansford 3B $155,000
180 Blue Jays Brian Jeroloman C $165,000
181 Nationals Zech Zinicola RHP $147,500
182 Brewers Brae Wright LHP $31,500
183 Padres Tim Bascom RHP $140,000
184 Mets Scott Schafer RHP $140,000
185 Marlins Justin Jacobs SS $150,000
186 Twins Jeff Christy C $25,000
187 Phillies Dan Brauer LHP $150,000
188 Athletics Andrew Bailey RHP $135,000
189 Astros Bud Norris RHP $140,000
190 Braves Steve Figueroa RHP $125,000
191 Indians Austin Creps RHP $145,000
192 Angels Robert Fish LHP $140,000
193 Red Sox Zach Daeges 3B $30,000
194 Yankees Mitch Hilligoss SS $130,000
195 White Sox Brian Omogrosso RHP $105,000
196 Cardinals Tyler Norrick LHP $45,000
SEVENTH ROUND
197 Royals Brett Bigler OF $130,000
198 Rockies Michael McKenry C $135,000
199 Devil Rays Reid Ryan RHP $145,000
200 Pirates Austin McClune OF $140,000
201 Mariners Doug Fister RHP $50,000
202 Tigers Jonah Nickerson RHP $150,000
203 Dodgers Jaime Ortiz 1B $115,000
204 Reds Justin Turner 2B $50,000
205 Orioles Josh Tamba RHP $142,500
206 Giants Brett Pill 1B $130,000
207 Diamondbacks Daniel Stange RHP $115,000
208 Rangers Grant Gerrard OF $27,500
209 Cubs Steve Clevenger SS $130,000
210 Blue Jays Jon Baksh OF $122,500
211 Nationals Sam Brown RHP Unsigned
212 Brewers Andy Bouchie C $115,000
213 Padres Craig Cooper 1B $25,000
214 Mets Daniel Stegall OF $145,000
215 Marlins Don Czyz RHP $30,000
216 Twins Jonathan Waltenbury 1B Unsigned
217 Phillies Charlie Yarbrough 1B $110,000
218 Athletics Michael Leake RHP Unsigned
219 Astros David Qualben LHP $115,000
220 Braves Adam Coe 3B $107,200
221 Indians Robbie Alcombrack C $160,000
222 Angels Jarrad Page OF Unsigned
223 Red Sox Kris Negron SS $105,000
224 Yankees Tim Norton RHP $85,000
225 White Sox Justin Cassel RHP $88,000
226 Cardinals Luke Gorsett OF $60,000
EIGHTH ROUND
227 Royals Josh Cribb RHP $75,000
228 Rockies Brandon Hynick RHP $90,000
229 Devil Rays Tyree Hayes RHP $127,500
230 Pirates Alex Presley OF $95,000
231 Mariners Steve Richard RHP $70,000
232 Tigers Chris Cody LHP $25,000
233 Dodgers Tommy Giles OF $25,000
234 Reds Travis Webb LHP $90,000
235 Orioles Jedidiah Stephen SS $25,000
236 Giants Matt Klimas C $80,000
237 Diamondbacks Chase Christianson RHP $82,500
238 Rangers Josh Bradbury OF $85,000
239 Cubs Billy Muldowney RHP $98,500
240 Blue Jays Dan O'Brien LHP $90,000
241 Nationals Sean Rooney C $90,000
242 Brewers Shane Hill RHP $145,000
243 Padres Tom King SS $60,000
244 Mets Nathan Hedrick RHP $140,000
245 Marlins Daniel Garcia SS $90,000
246 Twins Brian Dinkelman 2B $13,000
247 Phillies T.J. Warren OF $92,500
248 Athletics Angel Sierra OF $75,000
249 Astros Jimmy Van Ostrand OF $40,000
250 Braves Casey Beck RHP $100,000
251 Indians Mike Eisenberg RHP $83,500
252 Angels Matt Sweeney C $75,000
253 Red Sox Rafael Cabreja OF $65,000
254 Yankees Dellin Betances RHP $1,000,000
255 White Sox Kent Gerst OF $75,000
256 Cardinals Allen Craig SS $15,000
NINTH ROUND
257 Royals Marc Maddox 1B $50,000
258 Rockies Will Harris RHP $16,000
259 Devil Rays Eligio Sonoqui 1B $90,000
260 Pirates Steve McFarland RHP $76,000
261 Mariners Justin Souza RHP $65,000
262 Tigers Zach Piccola LHP $80,000
263 Dodgers Bridger Hunt 3B $60,000
264 Reds Jeremy Burchett RHP $25,000
265 Orioles Brett Bordes LHP $23,500
266 Giants Brian Bocock SS $72,500
267 Diamondbacks Eddie Romero LHP $75,000
268 Rangers Brennan Garr RHP $65,000
269 Cubs Cliff Anderson OF $155,000
270 Blue Jays Cole Figueroa SS Unsigned
271 Nationals Joey Rosas LHP Unsigned
272 Brewers Shawn Ferguson RHP $10,000
273 Padres David Freese 3B $6,000
274 Mets Jeremy Barfield OF Unsigned
275 Marlins John Raynor OF $17,500
276 Twins Sean Land LHP $70,000
277 Phillies Andrew Cruse RHP $75,000
278 Athletics Danny Hamblin 1B Unsigned
279 Astros Greg Buchanan 2B $30,000
280 Braves Tim Gustafson RHP Unsigned
281 Indians Jared Goedert 3B $70,000
282 Angels Nate Boman LHP Unsigned
283 Red Sox Ryan Kalish OF Unsigned
284 Yankees Mark Melancon RHP Unsigned
285 White Sox Chris Duffy 3B Unsigned
286 Cardinals Matt North RHP $150,000
TENTH ROUND
287 Royals Nick Van Stratten OF $65,000
288 Rockies David Arnold RHP $65,000
289 Devil Rays Desmond Jennings OF $150,000
290 Pirates Charles Benoit LHP $55,000
291 Mariners Chris Minaker SS $20,000
292 Tigers Lauren Gagnier RHP $67,000
293 Dodgers Andy D'Alessio 1B Unsigned
294 Reds Josh Roenicke RHP $20,000
295 Orioles Emeel Salem OF Unsigned
296 Giants Ryan Paul LHP $60,000
297 Diamondbacks Tony Barnette RHP $10,000
298 Rangers Craig Gentry OF $10,000
299 Cubs Jake Renshaw RHP $60,000
300 Blue Jays Scott Campbell 2B $65,000
301 Nationals Marcus Salmon C Unsigned
302 Brewers Mike McClendon RHP $60,000
303 Padres Kody Valverde C $3,000
304 Mets Phillips Orta RHP Unsigned
305 Marlins Graham Taylor LHP $10,000
306 Twins Jared Mitchell OF Unsigned
307 Phillies Sam Walls RHP $50,000
308 Athletics Christian Vitters SS $55,000
309 Astros Nathan Karns RHP Unsigned
310 Braves Kris Medlen RHP $85,000
311 Indians Paalo Espino RHP Unsigned
312 Angels Leonardo Calderon LHP SIGNED
313 Red Sox Kyle Snyder RHP Unsigned
314 Yankees Casey Erickson RHP $80,000
315 White Sox Lee Cruz OF $25,000
316 Cardinals Blair Erickson RHP UNSIGNED


Here are the bonuses again. Most of the substantial bonuses are HS signs. Have a great day board and remember Shep cares and peace to all, especially you Fungo

Shep, full time scouts are Salary only. Part time scouts get paid a min. amount like 3-10 thousand + 500.00 dollars if they recommend a player. BUT if the MLSB turns in the player that the part time guy recomends then the part time guy doesn't get the 500.00 dollars.

SHEP, An Associatte scout is not an employee of the organization. He is enlisted by the area scout to help cover the area scouts area. If you make your money other ways, Thats fine. BUT SHEP....you do not make money or a living when you sign a player. NO SCOUT DOES! Scouts DON"T GET A BONUS WHEN THEY SIGN A PLAYER.

Vance, I beg to differ. You have no idea what your talking about. The Baltimore Orioles had a nice incentive program for bonuses for associates when the player signs and for each level of progression. Like to A then AA and AAA and ultimately Big Leagues. This may have changed with the Orioles but I served them faithfully for about 11 years with those exact same incentives written on my associates contract and the full-time scout I was working for may have been responsble for paying it because I did receive some bonuses, directly from him. Who are you anyway Vance? A moderator thinks your Richard or Linear/infopimp/etc..etc..You seem to be focused on stirring the pot here pal. Later, peace, Shep

Shep, BEG all you want. The fact is this.

Associatte scouts are not employees of the team they help. They help the area scout. They get 500 bucks if they recomend a player and the club signs him...BUT ONLY IF THE MLSB HASN"T TURNED IN THE PLAYER! and ONLY IF THAT PLAYER ALSO IS RETAINED FOR 90 DAYS OF THE SEASON.

SHEP, associatte scouts NO LONGER get compensation when a player moves up from A to AA to AAA. Those were the OLD DAYS!

Old Slugger. Correct. They(associate scout) has a full time day job (whatever that may be)and helps the area guy because of his love for the game after his work hours.

AND you'll not see many area scouts paying 500 bucks out of their pockets to an Associatte scout either. That 500 bucks gets paid for by a check from the front office of the team that the full time scout works for.

The MLSB turns in everybody now a days so I'd bet there wasn't 5 checks combined by all the clubs that were paid out to an associate scout this past year.

Vance34,

You are only one, you have your opinions, and I have mine. Mine are based on facts and your's are based on heresay.

Since you will not identify yourself to the board, I'm out pal, snipe all you want because I have a scouting trip to prepare for that I bet you won't be eligible to attend. Have a good day Vance-Richard-Linear...whoever.

Vance34, till you identify yourself, I cannot in good faith believe a word you say. I did get your PM but that doesn't tell me who you are.
Later Gator, Peace from the Shep

Shep, I have a copy of an Associate Scout contract. Let me email it to you. That way you'll know its not opinion or hearsay. Its fact!

I also have a scout trip today and one you'd have to buy a ticket to.

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Originally posted by Vance34:

IF YOU MAKE IT ABOUT MONEY>>>>>>go to school.

IF YOU MAKE IT ABOUT OPPROTUNITY>>>>go pro.

bottom line. Just stick to your choice and never look back and make the most of the choice you made.

I agree. And I certainly wouldn't want my son to sign and get money so he can buy me a new dishwasher
I would only wish that many would be able to sign in an early round, for the opportunity of being a better prospect with his/their organizations (though that IS NOT always the case). Bonus is to make your life a bit more comforable. Getting placed on a 25 man roster is the icing on the cake,should be the ultimate goal, then all good things come and you can buy your mom either a dishwasher or a house.
In case you didn't notice, large portion who made good on signing bonus were out of college, early rounds. The money drops significantly in the fifth.
I resent your remarks to Fungo. Before I began posting, he was one of the parents who often gave advice, mostly always presenting both sides of the issue. I have learned a lot from him, as one parent to another, much more than he will ever know. He last sentence is essentially what he has always stated.
Shep,
It seems to me you are suggesting someone signs only for the bonus. That's a great suggestion if it was a perfect world.
ML players average time is 4 years in the majors. Arod, Bonds, Maddux, Clemens, Sheffield, etc. are exceptions to that time.

Young players (HS) and their families need to understand the system, how it works, how long it takes to get to where you want to go, what you have to do to get there, then make a very important decision that will impact the rest of his life. Presenting bonus round money to a young player is not appropriate to make him sign, unless of course it's for a significant amount. He should want to sign because he wants to play ball and be a PROFESSIONAL. He should want to sign because he prefers that be his choice, after doing homework. He should want to sign whether he was given a 1000 dollars or a million. Any second thoughts about it, go to school.
Yes, parents of college students and their parents have to make significant contributions. I am thinking if son signed out of HS for what was offered, as Dad 04 suggests below, I would still be making the car payment.

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OS8,
Good criteria.

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Don't know about ya'll, but I could pay for several college educations in top ten round money for most draft and signs I see here on PG Cross-Checkers list.

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He has an opportunity to give back to his parents and have a self-supporting life of his own. Family of his own with a lifetime of wages to get started with.

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Just think about the following: wife, kids, house, bank account, job, help my mom get a dishwasher or maybe even buy her a house for all she has done...Don't deny yourself this ONCE IN A LIFETIME OPPORTUNITY if that chance comes, take it!

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We're talking about no student loans and being independent for a life of your own

Shep, I appreciate your rebuttal but I see it as nothing more than the opinion of someone with a vested interest in promoting professional baseball over a college education. Re-read my post. I make no suggestion as to HOW a player should or should not spend their signing bonus. However your posts do suggest they spend that money on college educations and dishwashers and houses for their mothers. I say it is their money and they can spend it as they wish --- as most do. It has been discussed at length on the HSBBW that few players start and complete their college education AFTER professional baseball --- There are a few exceptions with you being one and I commend you for your accomplishment.
I don't have data to support my view that more players go to college first and then into pro ball than would go to pro ball out of high school and then on to college after they were released. Like I said I have no data but I would still wager my signing bonus against your college degree that I'm right.

Shep

The only bonus amount relevant to a draftee is the amount on his contract, not what somebody last year got. Most of the kids signing are not getting rich, but actually struggling to survive financially on their bonus and $1100 a month during the season.

Frankly, I'm not sure many of them are actual professional athletes. If mom's still paying you car payment you are not a professional athlete, imo.

This topic seems to come up here a few times each year. I’ve never understood the debate. People will do whatever they want if the opportunity exists. And whatever they do, is good enough for me!

Many times I’ve been asked to give advice to parents regarding this topic of Pro vs College. The standard answer (possibly someone on here has heard it) Can’t advise… one way or the other. Why? Because no matter what advice you might give it could turn out to be the wrong advise!... In any particular case, for many different reasons!

The only good advice is to consider everything and make a decision and live with it!

There are thousands of high school kids who would gladly give up college to play professional baseball. Not for the money, but for the opportunity! There are many who would not give up college for anything. Neither way is wrong!

While money is very important… It’s an individual thing… I really like those kids who are willing to play for practically nothing. In this day and age it might not be very wise, but there are lots of kids who don’t want to do anything more than just play baseball. Might be risky, but is there anything wrong with that? I wish there were even more of those kind. Oddly enough some of those types end up getting the big bonus’ anyway. There really are kids who have received millions of dollars that would have signed for very little! We know lots of them! Being signable can, and often does, have it’s advantages!

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Originally posted by Shepster:
2004Dad, with all due respect to you and your son, this is this years signing bonuses. I put up again before they get buried in the resentments Here ya go, top ten rounds.


DRAFT 2006
SIGNING BONUSES, Top 10 Rounds
FIRST ROUND
1 Royals Luke Hochevar RHP $3,500,000
2 Rockies Greg Reynolds RHP $3,250,000
3 Devil Rays Evan Longoria 3B $3,000,000
4 Pirates Brad Lincoln RHP $2,750,000
5 Mariners Brandon Morrow RHP $2,450,000
6 Tigers Andrew Miller LHP $3,550,000
7 Dodgers Clayton Kershaw LHP $2,300,000
8 Reds Drew Stubbs OF $2,000,000
9 Orioles Billy Rowell SS $2,100,000
10 Giants Tim Lincecum RHP $2,025,000
11 Diamondbacks Max Scherzer RHP Unsigned
12 Rangers Kasey Kiser LHP $1,600,000
13 Cubs Tyler Colvin OF $1,475,000
14 Blue Jays Travis Snider OF $1,700,000
15 Nationals Chris Marrero 3B $1,625,000
16 Brewers Jeremy Jeffress RHP $1,550,000
17 Padres Matt Antonelli 3B $1,575,000
18 Phillies Kyle Drabek RHP 1,550,000
19 Marlins Brett Sinkbeil RHP $1,525,000
20 Twins Chris Parmelee OF $1,500,000
21 Yankees Ian Kennedy RHP $2,250,000
22 Nationals Colton Willems RHP $1,425,000
23 Astros Max Sapp C $1,400,000
24 Braves Cody Johnson OF $1,375,000
25 Angels Hank Conger C $1,350,000
26 Dodgers Bryan Morris RHP $1,325,000
27 Red Sox Jason Place OF $1,300,000
28 Red Sox Daniel Bard RHP Unsigned
29 White Sox Kyle McCulloch RHP $1,050,000
30 Cardinals Adam Ottavino RHP $950,000
FIRST ROUND SUPPLEMENTAL
31 Dodgers Preston Mattingly SS $1,000,000
32 Orioles Pedro Beato RHP $1,000,000
33 Giants Emmanuel Burriss SS $1,000,000
34 Diamondbacks Brooks Brown RHP $900,000
35 Padres Kyler Burke OF $950,000
36 Marlins Chris Coghlan 3B $950,000
37 Phillies Adrian Cardenas SS $925,000
38 Braves Cory Rasmus RHP $900,000
39 Indians David Huff LHP $900,000
40 Red Sox Kris Johnson LHP $850,000
41 Yankees Joba Chamberlain RHP Unsigned
42 Cardinals Chris Perez RHP $800,000
43 Braves Steve Evarts LHP $800,000
44 Red Sox Caleb Clay RHP $775,000
SECOND ROUND
45 Royals Jason Taylor SS $762,500
46 Rockies David Christensen OF $750,000
47 Devil Rays Josh Butler RHP $725,000
48 Pirates Mike Felix LHP $725,000
49 Mariners Chris Tillman RHP $680,000
50 Tigers Ronnie Bourquin 3B $690,000
51 Braves Jeff Locke LHP $675,000
52 Reds Sean Watson RHP $670,000
53 Padres Chad Huffman 1B $660,000
54 Cardinals Brad Furnish LHP $600,000
55 Diamondbacks Brett Anderson LHP Unsigned
56 Indians Steven Wright RHP $630,000
57 Indians Josh Rodriguez 3B $625,000
58 Orioles Ryan Adams SS $675,000
59 Nationals Sean Black RHP Unsigned
60 Brewers Brent Brewer SS $600,000
61 Padres Wade LeBlanc LHP $590,000
62 Mets Kevin Mulvey RHP Unsigned
63 Marlins Tom Hickman OF $575,000
64 Twins Joe Benson OF $575,000
65 Phillies Andrew Carpenter RHP $570,000
66 Athletics Trevor Cahill RHP $560,000
67 Astros Sergio Perez RHP $550,000
68 Braves Dustin Evans RHP $530,000
69 Indians Wes Hodges 3B $1,000,000
70 Nationals Stephen Englund SS $515,000
71 Red Sox Justin Masterson RHP $510,000
72 Braves Chase Fontaine SS $500,000
73 White Sox Matt Long RHP $330,000
74 Cardinals Jon Jay OF $480,000
SECOND ROUND SUPPLEMENTAL
75 Indians Matt McBride C $445,000
76 Cardinals Mark Hamilton 1B $465,000
THIRD ROUND
77 Royals Blake Wood RHP $460,000
78 Rockies Keith Weiser LHP $455,000
79 Devil Rays Nick Fuller RHP Unsigned
80 Pirates Shelby Ford 2B $450,000
81 Mariners Tony Butler LHP $445,000
82 Tigers Brennan Boesch OF $445,000
83 Red Sox Aaron Bates 1B $440,000
84 Reds Chris Valaika SS $437,500
85 Orioles Zach Britton LHP $435,000
86 Diamondbacks Dallas Buck RHP $250,000
87 Diamondbacks Cyle Hankerd OF $430,000
88 Rangers Chad Tracy C $427,500
89 Giants Clayton Tanner LHP $425,000
90 Marlins Torre Langley C $422,500
91 Nationals Stephen King SS Unsigned
92 Brewers Cole Gillespie OF $417,500
93 Padres Cedric Hunter OF $415,000
94 Mets Joe Smith RHP $410,000
95 Marlins Scott Cousins OF $407,500
96 Twins Tyler Robertson LHP $405,500
97 Phillies Jason Donald SS $400,000
98 Athletics Matt Sulentic OF $395,000
99 Astros Nick Moresi OF $390,000
100 Braves Chad Rodgers LHP $385,000
101 Indians Adam Davis SS $380,000
102 Angels Russ Moldenhauer OF Unsigned
103 Red Sox Bryce Cox RHP $250,000
104 Yankees Zach McAllister RHP $368,000
105 White Sox Justin Edwards LHP $310,000
106 Cardinals Gary Daley RHP $325,000
FOURTH ROUND
107 Royals Derrick Robinson OF $850,000
108 Rockies Craig Baker RHP $265,000
109 Devil Rays Alex Cobb RHP SIGNED
110 Pirates Jared Hughes RHP $305,000
111 Mariners Ricky Orta RHP $270,000
112 Tigers Ryan Strieby 1B $295,000
113 Dodgers Kyle Orr 1B Unsigned
114 Reds Justin Reed OF $287,000
115 Orioles Blake Davis SS $282,500
116 Giants Ben Snyder LHP $280,000
117 Diamondbacks Bryant Thompson RHP $225,500
118 Rangers Marcus Lemon SS $1,000,000
119 Twins Whit Robbins 1B $265,000
120 Blue Jays Brandon Magee RHP $155,000
121 Nationals Glenn Gibson LHP Unsigned
122 Brewers Evan Anundsen RHP $282,000
123 Padres Nate Culp LHP $257,500
124 Mets John Holdzkom RHP $210,000
125 Marlins Hector Correa RHP $252,000
126 Twins Garrett Olson 3B $250,000
127 Phillies D'Arby Myers OF $250,000
128 Athletics Chad Lee RHP $245,000
129 Astros Chris Johnson 1B $242,500
130 Braves Lee Hyde LHP $235,000
131 Indians Ryan Morris LHP $500,000
132 Angels Clay Fuller OF $227,500
133 Red Sox Jon Still C $225,000
134 Yankees Colin Curtis OF $450,000
135 White Sox Tyler Reves C $160,000
136 Cardinals Eddie Degerman RHP $100,000
FIFTH ROUND
137 Royals Jason Godin RHP $210,000
138 Rockies Helder Velazquez SS $209,000
139 Devil Rays Shawn O'Malley SS $200,000
140 Pirates Patrick Bresnehan RHP $202,500
141 Mariners Nathan Adcock RHP $200,000
142 Tigers Scott Sizemore 2B $197,500
143 Dodgers Kyle Smit RHP $175,000
144 Reds Josh Ravin RHP $200,000
145 Orioles Tyler Henson SS $185,000
146 Giants Michael McBryde OF $180,000
147 Diamondbacks Hector Ambriz RHP $160,000
148 Rangers Chris Davis 1B $172,500
149 Cubs Jeff Samardzija RHP $7,250,000
150 Blue Jays Luke Hopkins 1B $172,500
151 Nationals Cory VanAllen LHP $170,500
152 Brewers Chris Errecart OF $166,000
153 Padres Andy Underwood RHP $167,500
154 Mets Stephen Holmes RHP $168,000
155 Marlins Chris Hatcher C $167,000
156 Twins Devin Shepherd OF Unsigned
157 Phillies Quentin Berry OF $165,000
158 Athletics Jermaine Mitchell OF $155,000
159 Astros Casey Hudspeth RHP $163,000
160 Braves Kevin Gunderson LHP $162,000
161 Indians Chris Archer RHP $161,000
162 Angels Ken Herndon RHP $157,500
163 Red Sox Dustin Richardson LHP $107,000
164 Yankees George Kontos RHP $158,000
165 White Sox John Shelby 2B $157,000
166 Cardinals Shane Robinson OF $175,000
SIXTH ROUND
167 Royals Harold Mozingo RHP $165,000
168 Rockies Kevin Clark OF $150,000
169 Devil Rays Nevin Ashley C $150,000
170 Pirates Jim Negrych 2B $150,000
171 Mariners Adam Moore C $140,000
172 Tigers Jordan Newton C $155,000
173 Dodgers Garrett White LHP $110,000
174 Reds Jordan Smith RHP $152,500
175 Orioles Jason Berken RHP $155,000
176 Giants Ryan Rohlinger SS $40,000
177 Diamondbacks Joey Side OF $145,000
178 Rangers Jacob Brigham RHP $200,000
179 Cubs Josh Lansford 3B $155,000
180 Blue Jays Brian Jeroloman C $165,000
181 Nationals Zech Zinicola RHP $147,500
182 Brewers Brae Wright LHP $31,500
183 Padres Tim Bascom RHP $140,000
184 Mets Scott Schafer RHP $140,000
185 Marlins Justin Jacobs SS $150,000
186 Twins Jeff Christy C $25,000
187 Phillies Dan Brauer LHP $150,000
188 Athletics Andrew Bailey RHP $135,000
189 Astros Bud Norris RHP $140,000
190 Braves Steve Figueroa RHP $125,000
191 Indians Austin Creps RHP $145,000
192 Angels Robert Fish LHP $140,000
193 Red Sox Zach Daeges 3B $30,000
194 Yankees Mitch Hilligoss SS $130,000
195 White Sox Brian Omogrosso RHP $105,000
196 Cardinals Tyler Norrick LHP $45,000
SEVENTH ROUND
197 Royals Brett Bigler OF $130,000
198 Rockies Michael McKenry C $135,000
199 Devil Rays Reid Ryan RHP $145,000
200 Pirates Austin McClune OF $140,000
201 Mariners Doug Fister RHP $50,000
202 Tigers Jonah Nickerson RHP $150,000
203 Dodgers Jaime Ortiz 1B $115,000
204 Reds Justin Turner 2B $50,000
205 Orioles Josh Tamba RHP $142,500
206 Giants Brett Pill 1B $130,000
207 Diamondbacks Daniel Stange RHP $115,000
208 Rangers Grant Gerrard OF $27,500
209 Cubs Steve Clevenger SS $130,000
210 Blue Jays Jon Baksh OF $122,500
211 Nationals Sam Brown RHP Unsigned
212 Brewers Andy Bouchie C $115,000
213 Padres Craig Cooper 1B $25,000
214 Mets Daniel Stegall OF $145,000
215 Marlins Don Czyz RHP $30,000
216 Twins Jonathan Waltenbury 1B Unsigned
217 Phillies Charlie Yarbrough 1B $110,000
218 Athletics Michael Leake RHP Unsigned
219 Astros David Qualben LHP $115,000
220 Braves Adam Coe 3B $107,200
221 Indians Robbie Alcombrack C $160,000
222 Angels Jarrad Page OF Unsigned
223 Red Sox Kris Negron SS $105,000
224 Yankees Tim Norton RHP $85,000
225 White Sox Justin Cassel RHP $88,000
226 Cardinals Luke Gorsett OF $60,000
EIGHTH ROUND
227 Royals Josh Cribb RHP $75,000
228 Rockies Brandon Hynick RHP $90,000
229 Devil Rays Tyree Hayes RHP $127,500
230 Pirates Alex Presley OF $95,000
231 Mariners Steve Richard RHP $70,000
232 Tigers Chris Cody LHP $25,000
233 Dodgers Tommy Giles OF $25,000
234 Reds Travis Webb LHP $90,000
235 Orioles Jedidiah Stephen SS $25,000
236 Giants Matt Klimas C $80,000
237 Diamondbacks Chase Christianson RHP $82,500
238 Rangers Josh Bradbury OF $85,000
239 Cubs Billy Muldowney RHP $98,500
240 Blue Jays Dan O'Brien LHP $90,000
241 Nationals Sean Rooney C $90,000
242 Brewers Shane Hill RHP $145,000
243 Padres Tom King SS $60,000
244 Mets Nathan Hedrick RHP $140,000
245 Marlins Daniel Garcia SS $90,000
246 Twins Brian Dinkelman 2B $13,000
247 Phillies T.J. Warren OF $92,500
248 Athletics Angel Sierra OF $75,000
249 Astros Jimmy Van Ostrand OF $40,000
250 Braves Casey Beck RHP $100,000
251 Indians Mike Eisenberg RHP $83,500
252 Angels Matt Sweeney C $75,000
253 Red Sox Rafael Cabreja OF $65,000
254 Yankees Dellin Betances RHP $1,000,000
255 White Sox Kent Gerst OF $75,000
256 Cardinals Allen Craig SS $15,000
NINTH ROUND
257 Royals Marc Maddox 1B $50,000
258 Rockies Will Harris RHP $16,000
259 Devil Rays Eligio Sonoqui 1B $90,000
260 Pirates Steve McFarland RHP $76,000
261 Mariners Justin Souza RHP $65,000
262 Tigers Zach Piccola LHP $80,000
263 Dodgers Bridger Hunt 3B $60,000
264 Reds Jeremy Burchett RHP $25,000
265 Orioles Brett Bordes LHP $23,500
266 Giants Brian Bocock SS $72,500
267 Diamondbacks Eddie Romero LHP $75,000
268 Rangers Brennan Garr RHP $65,000
269 Cubs Cliff Anderson OF $155,000
270 Blue Jays Cole Figueroa SS Unsigned
271 Nationals Joey Rosas LHP Unsigned
272 Brewers Shawn Ferguson RHP $10,000
273 Padres David Freese 3B $6,000
274 Mets Jeremy Barfield OF Unsigned
275 Marlins John Raynor OF $17,500
276 Twins Sean Land LHP $70,000
277 Phillies Andrew Cruse RHP $75,000
278 Athletics Danny Hamblin 1B Unsigned
279 Astros Greg Buchanan 2B $30,000
280 Braves Tim Gustafson RHP Unsigned
281 Indians Jared Goedert 3B $70,000
282 Angels Nate Boman LHP Unsigned
283 Red Sox Ryan Kalish OF Unsigned
284 Yankees Mark Melancon RHP Unsigned
285 White Sox Chris Duffy 3B Unsigned
286 Cardinals Matt North RHP $150,000
TENTH ROUND
287 Royals Nick Van Stratten OF $65,000
288 Rockies David Arnold RHP $65,000
289 Devil Rays Desmond Jennings OF $150,000
290 Pirates Charles Benoit LHP $55,000
291 Mariners Chris Minaker SS $20,000
292 Tigers Lauren Gagnier RHP $67,000
293 Dodgers Andy D'Alessio 1B Unsigned
294 Reds Josh Roenicke RHP $20,000
295 Orioles Emeel Salem OF Unsigned
296 Giants Ryan Paul LHP $60,000
297 Diamondbacks Tony Barnette RHP $10,000
298 Rangers Craig Gentry OF $10,000
299 Cubs Jake Renshaw RHP $60,000
300 Blue Jays Scott Campbell 2B $65,000
301 Nationals Marcus Salmon C Unsigned
302 Brewers Mike McClendon RHP $60,000
303 Padres Kody Valverde C $3,000
304 Mets Phillips Orta RHP Unsigned
305 Marlins Graham Taylor LHP $10,000
306 Twins Jared Mitchell OF Unsigned
307 Phillies Sam Walls RHP $50,000
308 Athletics Christian Vitters SS $55,000
309 Astros Nathan Karns RHP Unsigned
310 Braves Kris Medlen RHP $85,000
311 Indians Paalo Espino RHP Unsigned
312 Angels Leonardo Calderon LHP SIGNED
313 Red Sox Kyle Snyder RHP Unsigned
314 Yankees Casey Erickson RHP $80,000
315 White Sox Lee Cruz OF $25,000
316 Cardinals Blair Erickson RHP UNSIGNED

(Edited by Shep)

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Your absolutely right Jerry with everything you just said and one delayed gratification case that jumps out at me right after I just read your post is Todd Helton who only received a $50,000 dollar bonus due to knee concerns out of Tenn. Look how much he ended up with. peace, Shep