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OK, let's look at this. Since I can remember hitting a baseball was called the hardest thing to do in sports. That was back in the day when Ryan, Johnson, The Rocket where outliers and 87-92 was the norm. Now you have a collage pitcher hitting 105.5 and 70 something pro pitchers hitting 100 mph. That has reduced the reaction time to almost impossible levels. So their conversation has meaning to the lower levels of baseball, beyond that....

It's funny to me how people want to argue this. One only needs to look at stats for the last however many years and look at the rise in pitching velocity and the corresponding drop in batting average. Also, common sense. It takes a certain amount of time to pick up the ball, decided ball or strike, start firing the nerves accordingly and get the bat into the path of the ball, I don't care how much you choke up. And it's not just "catching up" to the FB. If you knew that's all he was going to throw then yes, you could commit earlier, problem is a pitcher is allowed to throw off-speed, which throws a hugh monkey wrench into things.

@Consultant posted:

Adbono

at what age will a young hitter understand this conversation with Ted and Tony? The Jc coaches in California and Texas teach the rules of hitting.

Bob

Good point. Young hitters typically don’t take a good approach to the plate until early in their college career. And launch angle is a flawed approach to hitting that absolutely contributes to lower batting averages and more strike outs. There is no world where Bob Gibson would be just another guy and @SomeBaseballDad is arguing his point with someone that has forgotten more about baseball than he will ever know.

@Consultant posted:

Adbono;

With the current quality of talent of JC Baseball, I think that the NJCAA winning team should play the California Champion. TV will present the talent level to a new level. Sam Suplizio and I discussed this at our Area Code Games.

Bob

I think that’s a great idea. I have often wondered why California Jucos aren’t part of the NJCAA. Why is that?

You're proving my point. Why do we remember him? Because he was almost unhittable. Again, now days he'd be a JAG.

if you put the baddest samurai against the lowest Navy Seal, the modern day guy would just shoot him with his sidearm and be done with it. 

What makes you think Gibson wouldn't take advantage of the modern training techniques  if he were in his prime now?  no way of proving it but i think he'd be pretty unhittable if he played today but was also able to use modern training and technology

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