i usually have parents come and watch practice. doesn't bother me until a few try to help coach. most just like being there. some of the PARENTS are paranoid about the world being out to get their kid. it really doesn't bother me.. tell ya what though, i think i am going to "pop in" on all of my parents at their work this year to crtique them.
mittman... I know your statement is toungue-in-cheek but do you have some parents that are your childrens' boss?
Just pulling your leg!
Moc1
Just pulling your leg!
Moc1
good one moc, lol 
randall, how old are your kids??? if they are in high school are you going to let them grow up and learn to do things for themself? if they are younger, i agree you should be there as much as possible.
had a kid that played for me last year, whose dad was at every practice tried to help coach, had to put a stop to that, the kid (senior)was embarased that his dad was there so much. heard him say a few times " i am a senior, why is he here??
randall, how old are your kids??? if they are in high school are you going to let them grow up and learn to do things for themself? if they are younger, i agree you should be there as much as possible.
had a kid that played for me last year, whose dad was at every practice tried to help coach, had to put a stop to that, the kid (senior)was embarased that his dad was there so much. heard him say a few times " i am a senior, why is he here??
Actually, I do drop in occasionally on both my HS kids classrooms.
Espicially the Seniors Political Science class, which is taught by a left wing wacko.
I, of course, stop by the Principal's office before just showing up in class. But, he encourages parents to do just that, show up, unannounced, to sit in on a class.
What do they have to hide? We are entrusting them with our kids education. And in the case of the wacko liberal, she and I have had some heated conversations after class on the drivel she is teaching the kids. Teaching is one thing, indoctrination is completely different.
Espicially the Seniors Political Science class, which is taught by a left wing wacko.
I, of course, stop by the Principal's office before just showing up in class. But, he encourages parents to do just that, show up, unannounced, to sit in on a class.
What do they have to hide? We are entrusting them with our kids education. And in the case of the wacko liberal, she and I have had some heated conversations after class on the drivel she is teaching the kids. Teaching is one thing, indoctrination is completely different.
It's not "concern" that causes me to show up at practice. It' simply a lack of baseball that does it! I go into morning after the World Serious, and I need it!
I do make myself known to his teachers, but I didn't like going to class when I had to.... And Math class doesn't practice outside!
"You should enter a ballpark the way you enter a church." Bill -Spaceman- Lee
I do make myself known to his teachers, but I didn't like going to class when I had to.... And Math class doesn't practice outside!
"You should enter a ballpark the way you enter a church." Bill -Spaceman- Lee
Kudos to K-dad. Randall, I believe we have reached many similar conclusions about the state of our public school systems. With the exception of our baseball playing oldest child (3 months to graduation/liberation from public school system - woo hoo!) we solved these issues by becoming a home schooling family. Prior to HS our ballplayer was a home school student. It is a major commitment to a different way of life, but it has many advantages and paybacks.
TR - I ask the HS teachers much more challengine questions than I do the baseball coach.
TR - I ask the HS teachers much more challengine questions than I do the baseball coach.
mhsdad,
i will not comment on your comment about public school vs homeschool. i will just say that we totally disagree on that subject.
i will not comment on your comment about public school vs homeschool. i will just say that we totally disagree on that subject.
I agree with you mittman, we must let our kids grown up and be independent. Dropping by a practice occasionaly is no big deal: but if you are there every single day; it is my opinion that there is either a overprotective or insecurity issue.
mittman - disclosure please? Are you a public school teacher/coach?
We can agree to disagree. Please note that neither Randall or I have disparaged the teachers. My son has been fortunate to learn under some excellent teachers; while others may have been only average to above-average teachers.
I believe that over the years the school system has lost or abdicated local control to state and federal authorities. While trying to create an education system that is all things to all people, the system is delivering less quality than in the past. State and federal statutes that dictate test performance minimums on student populations have forced school administrations to alter class curriculum to teach subjects (math, reading, whatever...) towards the goals of passing the standard tests. As a result, less learning occurs, but everyone passes the test. Schools get high marks from State & more money from Feds.
I have witnessed this in TX. I have heard some professional educators (my child's teachers) in the public school system express these opinions and observations.
Home schooling is not a panacea for what ails our nations schools. But it is an attractive and effective educational option for many families.
We can agree to disagree. Please note that neither Randall or I have disparaged the teachers. My son has been fortunate to learn under some excellent teachers; while others may have been only average to above-average teachers.
I believe that over the years the school system has lost or abdicated local control to state and federal authorities. While trying to create an education system that is all things to all people, the system is delivering less quality than in the past. State and federal statutes that dictate test performance minimums on student populations have forced school administrations to alter class curriculum to teach subjects (math, reading, whatever...) towards the goals of passing the standard tests. As a result, less learning occurs, but everyone passes the test. Schools get high marks from State & more money from Feds.
I have witnessed this in TX. I have heard some professional educators (my child's teachers) in the public school system express these opinions and observations.
Home schooling is not a panacea for what ails our nations schools. But it is an attractive and effective educational option for many families.
KellerDad---
Is this heaven?...
Is this heaven?...
All I should have been a little more clear,
My son at 16 pretty much takes care of himself, I only help when he needs it, but for the rest still stands true.
Jwonbb,
I put my on opinions out there for all to scrutinize, and clearly you disagree.
That’s fine with me. We are all different. But don’t come on here telling me I need to get informed unless you are willing to be the informant.
If my opinions are wrong, then all I ask is for you to explain your opinion.
One last thing, you state: “That's not the case right here down the road in Leander. Nor is it what the federal and state laws are intended to accomplish”
My opinions are based on what I see. If you are an educator, or administrator then you should have an insight beyond mine, so I welcome your input.
Please explain the intent of the Federal and state law of “No Child left behind”, and how it is different in Leander.
And explain to me how the Leander school district is accomplishing not leaving a child behind without adversely affecting the other children.
And explain to me how they (LSD) are doing this without creating learning groups of different abilities.
Jwonbb, please respond. Like I said, I welcome your insight.
Randall
My son at 16 pretty much takes care of himself, I only help when he needs it, but for the rest still stands true.
Jwonbb,
I put my on opinions out there for all to scrutinize, and clearly you disagree.
That’s fine with me. We are all different. But don’t come on here telling me I need to get informed unless you are willing to be the informant.
If my opinions are wrong, then all I ask is for you to explain your opinion.
One last thing, you state: “That's not the case right here down the road in Leander. Nor is it what the federal and state laws are intended to accomplish”
My opinions are based on what I see. If you are an educator, or administrator then you should have an insight beyond mine, so I welcome your input.
Please explain the intent of the Federal and state law of “No Child left behind”, and how it is different in Leander.
And explain to me how the Leander school district is accomplishing not leaving a child behind without adversely affecting the other children.
And explain to me how they (LSD) are doing this without creating learning groups of different abilities.
Jwonbb, please respond. Like I said, I welcome your insight.
Randall
TR-
While I have never set in on one of my children’s classes my wife and I are very diligent in questioning their teachers. This is done through e-mail, notes, phone calls, attending open house and face-to-face conferences when necessary. On the other hand I have attended many practices but have never questioned a coach. The reason for attending a practice is that I enjoy watching my son and his teammates learn and exhibit their baseball skills. What I am trying to say is that I think you are comparing apples and oranges with your analogy.
While I have never set in on one of my children’s classes my wife and I are very diligent in questioning their teachers. This is done through e-mail, notes, phone calls, attending open house and face-to-face conferences when necessary. On the other hand I have attended many practices but have never questioned a coach. The reason for attending a practice is that I enjoy watching my son and his teammates learn and exhibit their baseball skills. What I am trying to say is that I think you are comparing apples and oranges with your analogy.
Just saw an interesting question posed in our local paper:
"why are parents who involve themselves in their children's academics viewed as attentive and parents that involve themselves in their children's sports viewed as meddlesome?"
"why are parents who involve themselves in their children's academics viewed as attentive and parents that involve themselves in their children's sports viewed as meddlesome?"
RANDALL - I will be glad to inform you about "no child left behind" and what affect it does or does not have in the classroom. I will be glad to do this in the pulic forum - here - but it will have to wait until tomorrow morning. I will be working for the next nine hours or so.
Please note I never said your opinion was wrong, just that you need to be informed. If you wish to take this off-line, let me know.
Please note I never said your opinion was wrong, just that you need to be informed. If you wish to take this off-line, let me know.
i'll agree with you on most things. the education system does need an overhaul. i agree with the problems that eoc test, etc. may present. i still think even with the problems, that for MOST people, public schools are still the way to go.
I have read all of this with interest. My son is a 17 year old sr. who drives himself to and from school and practice. How ever sometime My husband will drop by practice on his way home from work. Not because he is checking up on the coach, just because he enjoys watching the boys practice. They're several parents who go to every practice and stay and watch the whole time. I don't think it bothers the coach at all. One Dad however is taking things alittle to far. His son is in the 10th grade and this Dad not only brings the boy to practice but also goes with him into the dressing room and stay while he and the others are changing for practice. When practice is over he again joins his son in the dressing room while the kid gets his things together to go home. Not sure how the coach feels about this but I know my son and alot of the other players don't like it. My son told me some of them had said things to this boy, about his Dad being in their space.
Tom
I can honestly say that I have been to about as many practices as meetings with teachers, guidence folks and administrators in the last 4 years. A few of each, but not a bunch. Things have gone very smoothly academicaly.
If the coach feels under the microscope or uncomfortable with parents watching practice silently in the stands, I find that odd.
I have a hard time telling whos who at practice anyway.
http://www.ragincajuns.com/Baseball/baseball.htm
I can honestly say that I have been to about as many practices as meetings with teachers, guidence folks and administrators in the last 4 years. A few of each, but not a bunch. Things have gone very smoothly academicaly.
If the coach feels under the microscope or uncomfortable with parents watching practice silently in the stands, I find that odd.
I have a hard time telling whos who at practice anyway.
http://www.ragincajuns.com/Baseball/baseball.htm
Went to a couple of practices early on and saw the coach take BP for a couple of buckets. not sure why, cuz he never got up to bat all year. Didn't go back. I figured I didn't need to see that anyway. He would have had a tough time making the JV team based on what I saw.
http://www.ragincajuns.com/Baseball/baseball.htm
http://www.ragincajuns.com/Baseball/baseball.htm
the relationship of parents and their kids involvement in sports has been discussed in many forums. As with all things there is a line. As with all things in society there is change. Some of that change is good and some not so good. As a coach would I want a load of parents at practice everyday not really but if they came I would not run them off but if they started to be a distraction I would intervene.
I don't mind parents coming to practice at all. As a matter of fact I encourage them to come out occassionally. As long as they're not a distraction, I think it is fine.
mhsdad,
I am an public educator, so I discourage home schooling. I do understand there are cases where it can be helpful, but in general I would discourage it.
Dad04,
I take batting practice with my players several times each year. I enjoy it. The players get a kick out of it too. They'll give me a hard time when I collapse on my backside or transfer my weight too soon, but it's all in fun. Don't get me wrong, I only do it a three or four times a season. I think I've put enough time in at the ballpark that I'm allowed to take a few swings every now and then. Remember, coaches like to have some of the fun too. And I'm not getting any younger, so I might as well take some cuts while I can.
mhsdad,
I am an public educator, so I discourage home schooling. I do understand there are cases where it can be helpful, but in general I would discourage it.
Dad04,
I take batting practice with my players several times each year. I enjoy it. The players get a kick out of it too. They'll give me a hard time when I collapse on my backside or transfer my weight too soon, but it's all in fun. Don't get me wrong, I only do it a three or four times a season. I think I've put enough time in at the ballpark that I'm allowed to take a few swings every now and then. Remember, coaches like to have some of the fun too. And I'm not getting any younger, so I might as well take some cuts while I can.