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Loaded question... first, be aware that the grades and their description/definition don't correlate.  Also be aware that there are dozens if not a hundred threads here on PG grades that you can search.  

PG theoretically takes into account everything from current skill set to projectibility.  Historically, they have been quite good at this (aside from my previous mention about grade definition).  As they grow in number of events and take in more and more younger age groups, I would think the quality and accuracy would have to slip some - JMO.

I'll give you my abbreviated but straight forward take... Historically, if you are a soph or junior in HS and you grade at a 6.5 or 7, you are not much of a prospect and are likely slotted as a lower level college player if at all.  7.5 to 8 is sort of middle of the recruiting pack across levels.  8.5 - 9 has you either on track to aim at the higher levels and/or possessing at least one particular strong skill set.  Higher than that - you don't need to be reading this, you already know.  There have been plenty of young players who come in and rate in the 7.5-8 range and then improve significantly and come back and rate higher next time around.

Use it as just one indicator but take it with a grain of salt.  And don't get too hung up on what others are graded.  They are evaluating and factoring in things that you may or may not be aware of - that might or might not apply to your player.  Take the grade your player gets along with any specific write-up info and move forward.

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CabbageDad did a good job of summarizing it.  Use the scores as a way to track yourself, the goal is to improve on your own scores and not to worry about others.  If he is continuously improving, nothing more you can ask for.  My son was "average" with PG and did other showcases/camps.  He received very few offers, only 3 D1's ( 2 were willing to take a scholly chance, 1 was a "preferred walk-on).  He had a great 3 year college career and is currently in The Show.  So even with so-so scores/evaluations, much hard work, a few breaks, and drive, your son can make things happen when others may not see it.  Good luck and enjoy the process.

Coletrain14 posted:

Thanks for the reply.  I understand what you are saying.  What I was a little confused on is a player having better numbers in every category 60, exit velo, OF velo etc having a lower grade than somebody with lower numbers.  I was asking if size of the player  may be the cause for that.   

Yes, size, age and projectible size factor in among other things.  Some other things include fielding fluidity, swing mechanics, plate approach, routes and other "eye test" factors.  Measurables matter but don't come close to defining the whole player.

I will add that having had a C/RHP go through the process, it seems the factor that gets the most weight is FB for pitchers and Pop time for catchers.  Size would add to it--a kid who is 6-4 and throws 87 in high school will get an elite rank (9 or higher) versus a kid under 6 foot who might be in that 8 to 8.5 range. 

But PG does a pretty good job of projecting in their ratings, and looking back on my son's 2017 class, the way PG rated kids is pretty consistent with where those kids wound up in college.  I like the fact that PG puts the kids age at draft day right up front, which I think evidences that they do factor in age in their projections.  Finally, the ratings are more valid if the kid actually participated in a PG showcase where they could actually test the metrics.  For the kids who show up in the database because their travel team played in a PG event, it is more of a snapshot judgment.

The reason PG ratings seem consistent with where kids end up in college has a lot to do with exactly that.  Grades are MUCH better for committed kids (especially commitments to P5's and other strong baseball programs) who share the same or perhaps worse numbers than uncommitted players.

This is especially true with rankings. They will adjust quite a bit after the MLB draft as well.  This makes the projections look very good historically.

But yes, size is definitely a factor! Upper 90's exit velocities for players who are 6'-2" and 205+ don't impress me; they do impress PG scouts though. If you are 6'-2" and weigh 205+ you SHOULD have an upper 90's exit velocity or you are not working very hard. Kids in the 90's who are average height and weight or less (6' and under and 140-180 lbs) impress me. You'll notice the vast majority of players who commit early are already or near average college playing size. No size projections needed.

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