I have been in love with rice for a while. It is my goal to go to it. Does anyone have any experience with or or advice / thoughts/ feelings...that would be great
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ss...I coached Brian Friday and Will McDaniel during the summer of 2002.
Friday was their AA shortstop; and, Will was a mid-week pitcher who finished 8-1.
My son was recruited by Stanford, Rice and Princeton before he chose Princeton.
Happy to share what I know about the program with you.
815-469-4520, John Petrulis
Friday was their AA shortstop; and, Will was a mid-week pitcher who finished 8-1.
My son was recruited by Stanford, Rice and Princeton before he chose Princeton.
Happy to share what I know about the program with you.
815-469-4520, John Petrulis
Good grades is a must for them. IVY type atmosphere at Rice.
If your good enough.....your grades dont matter much....theyll get you in.....one of my good buddies signed with rice this past year and his grades are horrible
txss...being recruited is one thing. Being accepted by the Admissions Department is another.
Let's revisit this issue in the fall and let's see if the person you know and comment about...is on campus and on the team.
Let's revisit this issue in the fall and let's see if the person you know and comment about...is on campus and on the team.
Academic admission rules have been bent for athletes at Rice. Perhaps not as much as at other colleges, but nonetheless it does happen. Decent grades will probably get you in, if you are a good enough ballplayer. Horrible grades will make it a real long shot.
Good grades will help.
Rice is an excellent school. Nice little campus. Nice, fairly new ballpark.
Good grades will help.
Rice is an excellent school. Nice little campus. Nice, fairly new ballpark.
If you have a 4.0 GPA how good of a baseball player do you have to be? Or doesn't it make a difference?
quote:Originally posted by mtownfan:
If you have a 4.0 GPA how good of a baseball player do you have to be? Or doesn't it make a difference?
To play for a baseball program like Rice, you must be an excellent baseball player. If you don't meet that criteria, your GPA is immaterial.
Did you know that at many programs Coaches are given large bonus' for GPA's over 3.0? Not just for baseball.
I do beleive if I remember correctly, in Omaha, the student awarded best GPA for his college baseball team was the Rice player, 4.0. I could be wrong, but I think it was Rice. Lots of expectations for players on and off the field.
I do beleive if I remember correctly, in Omaha, the student awarded best GPA for his college baseball team was the Rice player, 4.0. I could be wrong, but I think it was Rice. Lots of expectations for players on and off the field.
quote:Originally posted by Texan:
Academic admission rules have been bent for athletes at Rice.
Texan is all over this. My son & I visited Rice during the recruiting years. (Vince Sinisi was on the team.) Son spoke with several players on the team comparing SAT scores & GPAs. While none of the scores were embarrassing (1000-1150, 3-3.5) I'd venture that the numbers quoted would probably not have qualified them for admission into Rice w/out baseball & Coach Graham. Having said this I'm sure there are some excellent students on the Rice baseball team.
Grades are huge at Rice. The baseball team has quite a few national merit scholars. The coaches do ask academics and financial capabilities during recruitment 
Not to get to far off the subject. Coach Hatfield was a great coach and if you could win with GPA on the football field. Rice football would be in the hunt all the time :P Just goes to show you that Coach Hatfield was a great motivator and put together some decent teams with what he had to work with due to grades and financials.
I am sure Princeton,Yale, and other pricy schools have the same problems being that they are elitists in academics.
Not to get to far off the subject. Coach Hatfield was a great coach and if you could win with GPA on the football field. Rice football would be in the hunt all the time :P Just goes to show you that Coach Hatfield was a great motivator and put together some decent teams with what he had to work with due to grades and financials.I am sure Princeton,Yale, and other pricy schools have the same problems being that they are elitists in academics.
how good do you have to be to play at RICE? Do you basically have to be an all out stud at your high school?
1. Academics - top notch at Rice. Comparable to Ivies, Stanford, etc. Often compared to Stanford, albeit smaller student population (about 3,000 at Rice).
2. Baseball - again, cream of the crop at Rice.
3. Recruiting - they don't have to leave Texas to recruit, and generally they don't. They are dedicated to their players, so they don't spend too much time off campus recruiting.
4. Facilities, campus, location (within Houston that is), etc. are terrific.
Bottom line: you must have academics to get in, however, the baseball recommendation IS A HUGE PLUS. You must also be a great player to play baseball there.
2. Baseball - again, cream of the crop at Rice.
3. Recruiting - they don't have to leave Texas to recruit, and generally they don't. They are dedicated to their players, so they don't spend too much time off campus recruiting.
4. Facilities, campus, location (within Houston that is), etc. are terrific.
Bottom line: you must have academics to get in, however, the baseball recommendation IS A HUGE PLUS. You must also be a great player to play baseball there.
quote:Originally posted by no11:
1. Academics - top notch at Rice. Comparable to Ivies, Stanford, etc. Often compared to Stanford, albeit smaller student population (about 3,000 at Rice).
2. Baseball - again, cream of the crop at Rice.
3. Recruiting - they don't have to leave Texas to recruit, and generally they don't. They are dedicated to their players, so they don't spend too much time off campus recruiting.
4. Facilities, campus, location (within Houston that is), etc. are terrific.
Bottom line: you must have academics to get in, however, the baseball recommendation IS A HUGE PLUS. You must also be a great player to play baseball there.
Define "great" ...thanks
Switchhitter,
I cannot speak for no11 but I do have my own views based on past experience with the program. "Great" means you are a player with real projectability into the professional ranks, and a likelihood to be drafted in the top 10-15 rounds of the draft by the time you are a junior. This is expecially true for pitchers, where Rice almost routinely puts out one or more first rounders every year (nearly every year). I have read some material quoting Coach Graham which indicates that the need for pitching given the shortened schedule might require signing a few more pitchers, which theoretically means there might be some reduced standards with pitchers. But that's pure speculation on my part, and I suspect an equally good argument exists that the desireability of playing at Rice delivers sufficient numbers of top pitching prospects to prevent any falloff. With the roster size limits and the need for more pitching, arguably the standards will get even higher for postion players.
I cannot speak for no11 but I do have my own views based on past experience with the program. "Great" means you are a player with real projectability into the professional ranks, and a likelihood to be drafted in the top 10-15 rounds of the draft by the time you are a junior. This is expecially true for pitchers, where Rice almost routinely puts out one or more first rounders every year (nearly every year). I have read some material quoting Coach Graham which indicates that the need for pitching given the shortened schedule might require signing a few more pitchers, which theoretically means there might be some reduced standards with pitchers. But that's pure speculation on my part, and I suspect an equally good argument exists that the desireability of playing at Rice delivers sufficient numbers of top pitching prospects to prevent any falloff. With the roster size limits and the need for more pitching, arguably the standards will get even higher for postion players.
quote:Originally posted by DXBIBLE:
Switchhitter,
I cannot speak for no11 but I do have my own views based on past experience with the program. "Great" means you are a player with real projectability into the professional ranks, and a likelihood to be drafted in the top 10-15 rounds of the draft by the time you are a junior. This is expecially true for pitchers, where Rice almost routinely puts out one or more first rounders every year (nearly every year). I have read some material quoting Coach Graham which indicates that the need for pitching given the shortened schedule might require signing a few more pitchers, which theoretically means there might be some reduced standards with pitchers. But that's pure speculation on my part, and I suspect an equally good argument exists that the desireability of playing at Rice delivers sufficient numbers of top pitching prospects to prevent any falloff. With the roster size limits and the need for more pitching, arguably the standards will get even higher for postion players.
That is very good information and I appreciate your response. What would your guess be on just how short the shortest pitcher a school like Rice would entertain AND a right hander? In other words, what velocity would one have to throw and be --- say under 6 foot? I would doubt Rice would even consider a right hander under 6 foot tall....so I guess I use that as a guage because of a personal situation but your thoughts are appreciated. Keep in mind that I also realize there are many, many more attributes than just velocity one would have to possess, but I'm talking in general terms.
DXBIBLE, you said it better than I could have.
Switchhitter,
It's the pros who are known for being narrow-minded about physical stature. If Coach Pierce thinks a kid can pitch for Rice, they'll offer. Having said that, a quick check of current roster shows no pitchers under 6'1".
I have talked with many college pitching coaches, and if a kid can "pitch"--i.e., he's savvy, makes good decisions, and can control three pitches, they will offer even if he doesn't have the stature or velocity that projects into the pros.
It's the pros who are known for being narrow-minded about physical stature. If Coach Pierce thinks a kid can pitch for Rice, they'll offer. Having said that, a quick check of current roster shows no pitchers under 6'1".
I have talked with many college pitching coaches, and if a kid can "pitch"--i.e., he's savvy, makes good decisions, and can control three pitches, they will offer even if he doesn't have the stature or velocity that projects into the pros.
Agreed. College pitchers are judged by results. Body type is almost irrelevent in college.
