I use both terms (Agent/Advisor) since the roles tend to change. Before actually signing a "player agent" contract with an athlete, you tend to "advise" families of many different things. You in turn, become a players "agent" once the eligibility isn't an issue, paperwork is signed, etc.
PS....What do you mean "E-6 listed a link to me?"
Side note....
While the NCAA prohibits an amateur athlete from using an agent, the athlete may utilize an advisor to guide him through the college selection process, and then help the athlete and his family to decipher the events leading up to the Major League Baseball Draft.
PSM
Check his recent posts
Check his recent posts
PSM
Check the thread regarding the top 10 players to be drafted out of HS by DIbble ( e-6, Andy May)--just his usual stuff
Check the thread regarding the top 10 players to be drafted out of HS by DIbble ( e-6, Andy May)--just his usual stuff
quote:Originally posted by E-6:
http://www.sportsmanagementworldwide.com/agents.asp?action=view&agentid=93
Okay, so you found the SMWW site. I do work for them, & have been since 2003. Do a little research on the company, & the CEO, Dr. Lynn Lashbrook & you'll see that his attempts @ turning the agency industry around is remarkable.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by BeenthereIL:
10-50 rounds: McDonald's coupon and a plane ticket..very modest bonus. Likely out of baseball after 3 seasons (will be working at Wal-Mart as a greeter in the off season).
Don't tell them anything other than you want to play pro ball. QUOTE]
.......WRONG..................
10-50 rounds: McDonald's coupon and a plane ticket..very modest bonus. Likely out of baseball after 3 seasons (will be working at Wal-Mart as a greeter in the off season).
Don't tell them anything other than you want to play pro ball. QUOTE]
.......WRONG..................
I can tell you how i did it. They asked me on the questionairres what rounds i EXPECTED to go in, and i always said top 5, now i was also projected to go in the top 5 with no problem, but i never said i would SIGN in the top 5, i just said that i expected to go in the top 5. Now that its after the fact....maybe i should have gave some sort of money figure, because most of the scouts i've talked to since have said " if we knew you would have signed for that much we would have taken you earlier" so obviously they thought i wanted more money than that. But in all reality the draft is a **** shoot, so just have fun and play ball, let it all play out by itself. Because i know guys that were almost a lock on the top 3 rounds last year drop to the 18th-25th rounds, one guy even went undrafted. So the best advice i could give you is just go out and have fun.
AHS Pitcher17. Thanks for the advise. I like hearing from people that have actually experienced the draft. We just roll with the punches and so far son is having fun. So far some of the scouts talk to us but since son is pitcher he is usually running after game and he doesn't deal with them.
Alot of it goes into "signability" of a kid....especially a HS 1. If a team has huge interests in a player, but knows he's gonna go to college, then they don't use a pick on him until late in the draft. @ least they will then own his rights for the year....just in case. Zac Putnam of Pioneer HS (MI) is a good example. He was a projected 1-6 rd guy, & wanted a million plus. He already committed to Michigan, & was using that as leverage. That scared teams, & he didn't get drafter til after the mid 30's (rd), by the Tigers....just for the "rights" issue.
Pentagon,
I think it’s funny that “advisors” give their “client” list and they are all professional athletes. One would assume the majority a “good” advisor’s clients would be college students.
Explain this statement:”my company is one of the most unique, because our clients aren't our financial pawn, like most agencies....I make money regardless, not off my clients.
This is unique and earth shattering, every agent/advisor I dealt with charged a fee and that fee was based on monies PAID to the agency. Are you saying your clients retain 100% of their signing bonus when they sign a professional contract? That is a novel idea! I have been misled to believe that all agents’ salaries were funded by their clientele? If you (or your agency) represent your clients pro bono as you indicate, what activity generates the revenue for the agency and the agent?
Fungo
I think it’s funny that “advisors” give their “client” list and they are all professional athletes. One would assume the majority a “good” advisor’s clients would be college students.
Explain this statement:”my company is one of the most unique, because our clients aren't our financial pawn, like most agencies....I make money regardless, not off my clients.
This is unique and earth shattering, every agent/advisor I dealt with charged a fee and that fee was based on monies PAID to the agency. Are you saying your clients retain 100% of their signing bonus when they sign a professional contract? That is a novel idea! I have been misled to believe that all agents’ salaries were funded by their clientele? If you (or your agency) represent your clients pro bono as you indicate, what activity generates the revenue for the agency and the agent?
Fungo
quote:Originally posted by Pentagon Sports Management:
Alot of it goes into "signability" of a kid....especially a HS 1. If a team has huge interests in a player, but knows he's gonna go to college, then they don't use a pick on him until late in the draft. @ least they will then own his rights for the year....just in case. Zac Putnam of Pioneer HS (MI) is a good example. He was a projected 1-6 rd guy, & wanted a million plus. He already committed to Michigan, & was using that as leverage. That scared teams, & he didn't get drafter til after the mid 30's (rd), by the Tigers....just for the "rights" issue.
If the player goes to a 4 year school like Michigan, the club does not own his rights. The club loses the rights to him the second he steps into class in the fall. The only way to keep his rights for a year is for the player to go to a JC. I would hope that as an agent,you would know this already.
quote:Originally posted by Pentagon Sports Management:quote:Originally posted by E-6:
http://www.sportsmanagementworldwide.com/agents.asp?action=view&agentid=93
Okay, so you found the SMWW site. I do work for them, & have been since 2003. Do a little research on the company, & the CEO, Dr. Lynn Lashbrook & you'll see that his attempts @ turning the agency industry around is remarkable.
No offense but the agent page with the Photos and bios looks more like an Amway directory without the sales success. Based on the bios it looks like too many are drinking the purple kool-aide.
As a Dad who has never dealt with advisors or at this point does not need one, I would say that common sense would say to check references and interview any advisor/agent as you would any business transaction.
quote:BBscout posted: If the player goes to a 4 year school like Michigan, the club does not own his rights. The club loses the rights to him the second he steps into class in the fall. The only way to keep his rights for a year is for the player to go to a JC. I would hope that as an agent,you would know this already.
Sweet Sassy Molassy Van!! Even I knew that, and I'm just an ignorant parent.
Yikes, with the misinformation provided, or rather unable to explain himself correctly, PSM either needs to go back to school or take up another profession. 
That website is sorta scary.
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quote:Originally posted by Fungo:
Pentagon,
I think it’s funny that “advisors” give their “client” list and they are all professional athletes. One would assume the majority a “good” advisor’s clients would be college students.
Explain this statement:”my company is one of the most unique, because our clients aren't our financial pawn, like most agencies....I make money regardless, not off my clients.
This is unique and earth shattering, every agent/advisor I dealt with charged a fee and that fee was based on monies PAID to the agency. Are you saying your clients retain 100% of their signing bonus when they sign a professional contract? That is a novel idea! I have been misled to believe that all agents’ salaries were funded by their clientele? If you (or your agency) represent your clients pro bono as you indicate, what activity generates the revenue for the agency and the agent?
Fungo
Okay, so I didn't complete my post....but, yes you're correct, & 2, I did know that. Sometimes with these "post", you cannot get the full thing typed without losing interest. You're all entitles to your opinions...It's all good.
Thought so............
PSM
A agent/advisor cannot finish a post because he loses interest--now that is truly scary
I dont think I would want you talking to my kid or any of our players for that matter--you might fall asleep during your presentation
A agent/advisor cannot finish a post because he loses interest--now that is truly scary
I dont think I would want you talking to my kid or any of our players for that matter--you might fall asleep during your presentation
quote:Originally posted by bbscout:
If the player goes to a 4 year school like Michigan, the club does not own his rights. The club loses the rights to him the second he steps into class in the fall. The only way to keep his rights for a year is for the player to go to a JC. I would hope that as an agent,you would know this already.
Is this true of a JC kid who tranfers to a 4 year for his Jr. year? Does a team lose their rights, or is it an equivalent of a DFE?
The team loses it's right to the player the moment he sets foot in class in the fall.
