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While I agree with the article in principle and theory, I am not gonna jump on the Oregon bandwagon so fast. I could be wrong, but I think those spread offenses are still a LONG way from being the norm. I am an SEC guy and still believe you have to run the ball. I know Oregon does run the ball as well, but maybe I am just partial to the tailback concept and a more pro-style offense. Football is a very emotional sport, so I'm not sure that you will ever eliminate yelling from the equation. I understand that the point can be made without yelling, but there is just something about a passionate coach screaming motivation to his players on the sideline.
Good luck with that one.
WHAT'S THAT YOU SAY?
Screaming has no place in baseball... football and basketball however are 'try harder' type sports where emotion and getting fired up can actually help. Screaming in football is not going away anytime soon. But when I see a baseball coach who is a screamer it drives me nuts.
Just because the team playing for #1 this year has coaches who don't yell, yelling is over in coaching? Pa-leeeze! Jim Mora and Jumbo Fisher didn't yell because of anything Oregon did or didn't do. The NYT is not a place to go for sports. Their articles are usually points with anecdotal evidence for whichever side they are supporting.
There will always be room for a "Ditka" in football.
Originally Posted by jolietboy:
football and basketball however are 'try harder' type sports where emotion and getting fired up can actually help.
Emotion and being fired up has nothing to do with physical talent or performance; there is no evidence that it helps at all. You can be the most passionate and fired up player in all of mankind and still suck if your physical tools aren't there
I thought about this a bit...so chime I will.
I coach baseball and basketball...for the most part I'm the same person, however I never yell during a baseball game. No point as far as I'm concerned.
But basketball? I do. I think a lot of it is you need to convey things to five...and gyms tend to be harder to get the point across with all the parents yelling "travel!" and "foul!" constantly. I gotta be heard.
However I was once chastised for giving a team a piece of my mind after a game. Accused of "yelling"...the other coaches confirmed I never raised my voice. Point being, people take yelling as anything they want.
Inning by Inning: A Portrait of a Coach.
Augie Garrido
Sometimes yelling is effective but not during the game...
Originally Posted by jolietboy:
Screaming has no place in baseball... football and basketball however are 'try harder' type sports where emotion and getting fired up can actually help. Screaming in football is not going away anytime soon. But when I see a baseball coach who is a screamer it drives me nuts.
search youtube for Augie GarridoTexas baseball coach and get back to us 
- actually link below, funny stuff.
The Augie Garrido clip is a classic. But frankly, it doesn't really bother me. But, I doubt that it really accomplished anything. My guess is some of his players were struggling to fight back the laughter because it is so over the top. What really bugs me is guys like this who feel compelled to confront players as they come off the field.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OxfUftiYRU
actually I am not a fan of yelling...certainly not on the field, but i am pretty sure coaches don't really care what i think about it!!.
Originally Posted by old_school:
actually I am not a fan of yelling...certainly not on the field, but i am pretty sure coaches don't really care what i think about it!!.
Not too sure what to think about this. Interesting.
I think Oregon is good because they have tremendous athletes and coaches. Period.
Now that they're in the title game, I guess we're talking about a razor's edge as to who wins, who doesn't. Lots of things will go into that - planning, talent, execution, luck...yelling/not yelling.
One thing seems clear (my perception) - there will be a contrast in coaching styles on that field on Monday.
Go Ducks! 
Every year the screamer topic comes up - usually about 2 weeks into the season when some coach somewhere loses it and now more frequently ends up on video.
The point there is that I think it is the pervasiveness of the camera and people questioning the acceptability of such behavior. Although not the same thing - think about Ray Rice without the video. It was going to be 2 games and back to work and the video hits the air waves. Now his football days are probably done at the cost of his reputation and millions of dollars of lost income.
HS Coaches have to deal with the reality that screaming at teenagers and swearing at them as part of such tantrums is probably on the way out in the very short term. It will have nothing to do with if it is effective or not - as a society we increasingly simply will not tolerate it, not that we ever should have in the first place.
Eventually it will seep upward. Increasingly the trend in the NFL is away from the screamer to the communicator/strategist type. Give me a guy that can set the high expectation and teach it and I am a QB away from being competitive year in year out. Exhibit A - I don't think anyone would classify Belichek as a screamer and he is probably the best coach in the NFL in the last 25 years.
In the more player centric MLB and especially the NBA - if you cannot communicate with your best player(s) you are toast.
Originally Posted by lionbaseball:
Originally Posted by old_school:
actually I am not a fan of yelling...certainly not on the field, but i am pretty sure coaches don't really care what i think about it!!.
I think this guy ends up in a VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!
Originally Posted by luv baseball:
Every year the screamer topic comes up - usually about 2 weeks into the season when some coach somewhere loses it and now more frequently ends up on video.
The point there is that I think it is the pervasiveness of the camera and people questioning the acceptability of such behavior. Although not the same thing - think about Ray Rice without the video. It was going to be 2 games and back to work and the video hits the air waves. Now his football days are probably done at the cost of his reputation and millions of dollars of lost income.
HS Coaches have to deal with the reality that screaming at teenagers and swearing at them as part of such tantrums is probably on the way out in the very short term. It will have nothing to do with if it is effective or not - as a society we increasingly simply will not tolerate it, not that we ever should have in the first place.
Eventually it will seep upward. Increasingly the trend in the NFL is away from the screamer to the communicator/strategist type. Give me a guy that can set the high expectation and teach it and I am a QB away from being competitive year in year out. Exhibit A - I don't think anyone would classify Belichek as a screamer and he is probably the best coach in the NFL in the last 25 years.
In the more player centric MLB and especially the NBA - if you cannot communicate with your best player(s) you are toast.
Brady recently said the Patriots coaches almost never scream. But they aren't afraid to get in the face of even the best players and be critical.
Originally Posted by soulslam55:
....gyms tend to be harder to get the point across with all the parents yelling "travel!" and "foul!" constantly.
LOL. Guilty as charged!