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Originally posted by #32 DAD:
I am going to try and use GameChanger instead of my normal paper books this year. Is it necessary to be hooked up to WI-FI to use the program? Most if not all of the places we will play will not have WI-FI.


As far as I know, all of the apps load onto whatever handheld device you’re using, and store the data for later transmission, but I can’t say for sure.

I sure understand your trepidation about going from paper to paperless. I’m prepping to do that myself, and what really bothers me most is not having the ability to easily erase or repair something done in error. I’ve talked to many people using the scoring apps, and almost everyone says the same thing. If you make some kind of mistake, it can be a pain to get corrected. I don’t know how much of a pain it could be, but having messed with my own program now for the better part of the last 6 months, I can tell you it ain’t painless! Wink

Good luck and let us know how it goes!
WI-FI is not needed for the gamechanger app. As Stats says, the app stores your data and uploads to the internet as soon as you are reconnected to the via WI-FI. Also, if you make a mistake with gamechanger, you can either correct it on the spot with the app(takes some practice, but not that difficult once you get used to it) or you can wait until you get home and logon to the site and correct it.

If you were connected to WI-FI while you were scoring, others would be able to follow the game as you score it on their app or internet.

Hope this helps.
I have been using Gamechanger and generally like it. However 1 problem I have and cannot seem to find on their teaching videos is how you handle not having the starting lineups for the teams. I know generally you can enter placecards for the visitors but the big problem is guessing the batting line up for our team weather home or away. if i get it wrong i constantly have to "Jump to different batter". Got to be something i am missing. Any help would be much appreciated.
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Originally posted by IEBSBL:
let me ask my stat guy. I know in the fall when roster are not exchanged he does it as the players go to the plate and we never have had an issue.


An issue I’m having all kinds of problems dealing with in my own software when that happens, is it mucks up the defensive stats to where they’re worthless, and I can’t see how it would be any different with any other software that needs a lineup to determine defensive positions.

I’ve been lucky so far, in that I just load the roster prior to the game, and then all I have to do is move them to the right spot in the order, and put their defensive positions in. Of course if you don’t have access to their roster, you’re kinda hosed.Wink
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We pre load our roster into Game Tracker and we have ours. During the regular season we just put the other roster when we are handed the lineup. During the fall we just list the other team as 1-9. We do not use it for scouting purposes in the fall so we just need a dummy lineup to make sure our stats are up to date and correct.
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Originally posted by IEBSBL:
We pre load our roster into Game Tracker and we have ours. During the regular season we just put the other roster when we are handed the lineup. During the fall we just list the other team as 1-9. We do not use it for scouting purposes in the fall so we just need a dummy lineup to make sure our stats are up to date and correct.


For years I only kept numbers on our players, and the other teams pitchers as an aggregate, and it worked just fine. The only reason I have the computer track the other players now is, it takes not one second more. But, other than during the game, I don’t use those numbers at all, and I still have the computer put the pitchers all into one for use to compare our staff against other teams we’ve played.

My biggest headache by far, is the same one I had before I started using the automatic scoring software. That problem is, not getting substitution information. As long as I’m paying close attention, I’ll catch almost all of the changes, but it’s a real PITA trying to figger out where the 4 defensive subs are going to bat, or when a pinch hitter or runner shows up, where he’ll be playing in the field.

I know people think its really simple to keep a good book, but the reality is, you can’t take your eyes off the field or your concentration drift for even a second. So while everyone else is chitchatting or checking out the GLM in the tight sweater, when the SK does that he can easily miss a pitch, see which fielder made the PO, or Jimmy came inn to run for Billy.

The thing is though, that’s what keeps my interest in the game, because without it, as much as I love the game, I have to admit that baseball’s not the most exciting of sports. Frown
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Originally posted by IEBSBL:
We pre load our roster into Game Tracker and we have ours. During the regular season we just put the other roster when we are handed the lineup. During the fall we just list the other team as 1-9. We do not use it for scouting purposes in the fall so we just need a dummy lineup to make sure our stats are up to date and correct.


We do something similar because we don't get lineups in advance (for our team or opponent). We make our best guess at our own lineup and then during warmups we enter the jersey number of every opposing player we see in the dugout. Then we add from the bench as they come to the plate.

It's not perfect and we, too, would love to believe there's an easier way, but we haven't found it either!!!
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Originally posted by 2013 Parent:
We do something similar because we don't get lineups in advance (for our team or opponent). We make our best guess at our own lineup and then during warmups we enter the jersey number of every opposing player we see in the dugout. Then we add from the bench as they come to the plate.

It's not perfect and we, too, would love to believe there's an easier way, but we haven't found it either!!!


I don’t know if you’re talking about HS baseball, but whether you are or not, here’s something you may find useful.

For S&G, go to http://www.maxpreps.com/high-s.../baseball/roster.htm

That’s the MaxPreps roster for a HS team. Open Microsoft Notepad, then select and copy the roster from MP, and paste it into Notepad. Make any modifications necessary, I delete all the info other than the name and number, then save it and import it into your software if it has an import function.

If you can’t find the team on MP, its prolly on some other local service, and it’ll work the same way.

Good luck!
Two scrimmages into using Game Changer and I love it!!

After game one (7 runs allowed) I was able to tell the boys that we needed to cut down on walks allowed and throw more strikes. In a normal circumstance, they'd have said "Duh, coach", BUT I was able to also tell them that even though we walked 11 batters, our opponent "weakly hit" 78% of the balls they put in play (just one of the many stats calculated by the software).

This got their attention!! Maybe not so "duh" eh, if we throw strikes, they hit the ball, but if they hit it "weakly" 78% of the time my defense can do the work!!



So after that talk, scrimmage #2 (4 runs allowed) as a team, 62% strikes thrown (calculated stat), 65% first pitch strikes (another calculated stat), and 85% "weak" hit balls with only 2 walks.

I'm not saying that one stat caused a team wide epiphany but it sure gives you the data and the tools to try to get their little light bulbs to go on and realize they don't have to strike every batter out.

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Originally posted by Stats4Gnats:
Coach Bob,

Are you doing the scoring in the dugout, or is someone outside the dugout doing it for you? The reason I ask is, I notice that you’re talking about 12U ball, and its even worse for making changes and subs than HS ball is, and I’m tryin’ to see how you’re handling them.


I'm doing it and because most of our games require us to bat everyone it's simple to just swap positions. I haven't tried to make changes with a 9 man order but I assume you do the same and for each defensive inning press the player name on the field and process them as a sub out instead of position switch.
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Originally posted by Coach Bob:
I'm doing it and because most of our games require us to bat everyone it's simple to just swap positions. I haven't tried to make changes with a 9 man order but I assume you do the same and for each defensive inning press the player name on the field and process them as a sub out instead of position switch.


I kinda got the feeling you were doing it in the dugout because you made it sound much too simple. Wink

Jeez, I wish all subs were just a matter of position swapping in both the lineup and the field, but as you go up the ladder you’ll see that’s seldom true. Then throw in courtesy runners and re-entry on top of it, and add another 4-10 players to the roster, and things can get real complicated real fast. Frown

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