Quick question, my 2013 son and I are having an argument, he claims that he can receive text and email after 1 Sept I think it's only mail. What's the right answer?
Thanks
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son is right on that one
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Not so fast Jimnev. Tomorrow your son will be able to recieve personal emails and home mail but NOT text messages. Text Messaging was banned a few years ago by the NCAA to prevent some very agressive coaches going haywire on their recruits.
One other thing...I believe parents lock in too much to the September 1 date as a barometer of interest and future good (or not) things to come.
Through two sons who have or will play D1 baseball in a high level conference (and both had multiple choices in college selection)...September 1 just wasn't a very important date in retrospect. In the rearview mirror, I see September 1 as one of the most inconsequential dates on the recruiting calendar.
Maybe something will come, maybe nothing will come. I wouldn't put too much emotional investment in either situation.
Through two sons who have or will play D1 baseball in a high level conference (and both had multiple choices in college selection)...September 1 just wasn't a very important date in retrospect. In the rearview mirror, I see September 1 as one of the most inconsequential dates on the recruiting calendar.
Maybe something will come, maybe nothing will come. I wouldn't put too much emotional investment in either situation.
So, does FedEx deliver after midnight? 
Ha! Ha! 
I was wondering the same thing.
Just one person's experience, but none of the schools that emailed on 9/1 ended up on my son's short list...
quote:Originally posted by justbaseball:
One other thing...I believe parents lock in too much to the September 1 date as a barometer of interest and future good (or not) things to come.
Through two sons who have or will play D1 baseball in a high level conference (and both had multiple choices in college selection)...September 1 just wasn't a very important date in retrospect. In the rearview mirror, I see September 1 as one of the most inconsequential dates on the recruiting calendar.
Maybe something will come, maybe nothing will come. I wouldn't put too much emotional investment in either situation.
At a recent showcase (D-I) a parent asked the recruiting coordinator this exact question. His response was that if you don't hear anything on Sept 1 don't panic. If you do, know that you are definitely someone we are watching.
He also said the best part about that Sept 1 date is that it makes prospects more comfortable asking questions about how the coaches view their ability and if they might have a need . . . it's easier than making that first phone call. He said it starts the conversation because they can communicate and actually answer the player's questions, which usually leads into, "hey kid, give me a call and we can talk more."
quote:Originally posted by StateDynasty:
Not so fast Jimnev. Tomorrow your son will be able to recieve personal emails and home mail but NOT text messages. Text Messaging was banned a few years ago by the NCAA to prevent some very agressive coaches going haywire on their recruits.
So is texting banned altogether, or is it held to the restrictions like a phone call?
Texting, facebook, myspace, or any system of instant messagin is banned at any point during the recruiting process. As for phone calls....those may come after the July 1st deadline.
Some color on text messages:
The prohibition is against coaches sending text messages to prospective student athletes. The player can send text messages to coaches. If a player does receive a text message from a coach, his eligibility is unaffected. The prohibition doesn't apply to seniors who have either signed an athletically related offer of admission, or have made a deposit in response to a general offer of admission.
There are 4 separate proposals now under consideration for D1 that would lift the restriction on texting, with variously August 1, September 1, or the first day of classes for a junior as the first allowable date. It is extremely likely that next year text messages to juniors will be permitted.
The primary reason to change the rule is that many recruits now have phones which receive both email and texts. Seems a little ridiculous to restrict one and not the other.
The prohibition is against coaches sending text messages to prospective student athletes. The player can send text messages to coaches. If a player does receive a text message from a coach, his eligibility is unaffected. The prohibition doesn't apply to seniors who have either signed an athletically related offer of admission, or have made a deposit in response to a general offer of admission.
There are 4 separate proposals now under consideration for D1 that would lift the restriction on texting, with variously August 1, September 1, or the first day of classes for a junior as the first allowable date. It is extremely likely that next year text messages to juniors will be permitted.
The primary reason to change the rule is that many recruits now have phones which receive both email and texts. Seems a little ridiculous to restrict one and not the other.
Very good explanation 3FingeredGlove.
do the same rules apply to 2014? i had a coach come up to me last week and say..sorry for not saying hello but your son was with you so i couldnt
3 finger can texting, email, face to face btwn coach and travel coach or coach and parent still take place in fall? does grad year matter?
3 finger can texting, email, face to face btwn coach and travel coach or coach and parent still take place in fall? does grad year matter?
whits23,
There's too many rules to summarize easily here.
Download the Guide for the College-Bound Student-Athlete. All of it is useful information, but for recruiting, look at page 23 and following.
There's too many rules to summarize easily here.
Download the Guide for the College-Bound Student-Athlete. All of it is useful information, but for recruiting, look at page 23 and following.
FYI, 2013 son got an email yesterday re a visit to a school he has been talking to.
To Echo Jmoff's post..Of all the emails that my son receive on or around Sept 1. Only 1 remained as a major player in the recruiting process.
quote:Originally posted by justbaseball:
One other thing...I believe parents lock in too much to the September 1 date as a barometer of interest and future good (or not) things to come.
Through two sons who have or will play D1 baseball in a high level conference (and both had multiple choices in college selection)...September 1 just wasn't a very important date in retrospect. In the rearview mirror, I see September 1 as one of the most inconsequential dates on the recruiting calendar.
Maybe something will come, maybe nothing will come. I wouldn't put too much emotional investment in either situation.
I Agree....and I Disagree with justbaseball's above take on September 1 emails. I agree, you can not measure the "true interest" for your son from these programs until after July 1 going into senior year. However, I disagree that the 9/1 date is the most inconsequential on the recruiting calendar. When 7/1 hit, son received calls from many of the schools who had emailed in the Fall on September 1. Yes, there were plenty of schools that fell off the recruiting radar at one point or another for various reasons (SAT score too low at one PAC 12 college, lack of interest from my son due to the program's location, and schools that simply felt he wasn't a good fit).
Our (my son's) recruiting journey was exciting and difficult at the same time. I'm not going to lie, we made copies of all the letters, emails, and recruiting questionnaires etc...We were excited every time a coach called him (What did he say? Did he sound interested? Is he coming to your next game/tournament?) it was fun, yet very stressful. My son wanted to stay within a six hour drive here on the west coast. He wanted the opportunity to pitch and play the outfield. Lastly, he wanted to play D1 baseball. Hey, that's not too much to ask?
Congratulations if you have some interest this month, you're on the radar, how strong the interest is will be determined over the next 6-9 months. But, as justbaseball said, if you did or didn't receive an email, don't get emotional. My son had filled out a questionnaire his sophomore season and never heard from the college (besides the mass camp invites) he'll be attending until October of his senior year when they made him an offer a couple weeks prior to the early signing period. The school is 70 miles from home, they're going to give him an opportunity to go 2-way (at least during the fall), and it's a D1 school known for its baseball program and academics...great for my son, but they were nowhere on the radar September 1 of his junior, or for that matter his senior year of HS. Unless your son is a serious Blue Chip recruit, you never know WHEN your son will receive interest, from WHAT schools, and WHERE they're located...we were very, very fortunate.
BTW, perhaps I should have used justbaseball as a reference for my son during his recruitment journey. JBB has two son's that are stud pitchers, but they also have a pretty darn good last name...who knows, we could be distant relatives?
quote:...but they also have a pretty darn good last name...who knows, we could be distant relatives? Big Grin
Pretty cool!
Good post and a good take overall on your part (especially the parts I didn't quote). I agree with all of the first 3 paragraphs.
All the best to your son moving forward!