should colleges recruit a troubled prospect

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Recently a number of high profile draft prospects got tossed off their college team for various offenses, many criminal. Such as DWI's, theft and drug use.

Many? Who?

TD, With all due respect, this seems to be one of those topics where it would be better not to encourage the naming of names...

HC....good call.

Why bother with a troubled prospect. There are too many other prospects with the same upside that lack the potential downside/problems. A troubled prospect would have to be a potential HOF'er to bother with the risk.

Does this refer to football also or just baseball?

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Originally posted by Tiger Paw Mom:
Does this refer to football also or just baseball?

I think it should apply to college athletics in general. I'm with TG on this. while recruiting as a whole is a gamble, why take a bigger gamble on a kid with a history. If they are worthy they will find a home, but with the basket so full of good apples, and there is so few dollars to spend, why buy one with a worm in it.

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Originally posted by Holden Caulfield:
TD, With all due respect, this seems to be one of those topics where it would be better not to encourage the naming of names...

Your right there, wasn't thinking, just havn't heard of "many" "draft prospects" getting booted from baseball team for criminal activity.

Never mind anyway.

The world will always have its Tom Osbornes to harbor the talented head case.

I always liked the standard of...would you approve of him dating your daughter?

Self-inflicted troubles --- DUI, drug, PED's --- I agree that there are too many talented players out there to go down that path. Time and resources would be taken away from the rest of the team who played it straight in order to to babysit a player with a history.

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I always liked the standard of...would you approve of him dating your daughter?

That's a pretty tough standard. I would have trouble finding any players for my team

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Originally posted by CPLZ:
I always liked the standard of...would you approve of him dating your daughter?

Followed up with.....

If you make her cry... I'll make you cry

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If they are worthy they will find a home, but with the basket so full of good apples, and there is so few dollars to spend, why buy one with a worm in it.
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I agree that it sure seems like a high risk venture to take a troubled kid. But it would get very difficult on where to draw the line. Do you throw out all the "tape worms" and keep "ring worms". I use grub worms to fish with, so we should keep the grub worms!

We are talking about HS prospects here, you can't draw the line on criminal records, in most instances under 18 draws no criminal charges. Do you look at school records back to 9th grade where some kid got caught cheating? The school my son goes to does not differentiate between cheating on a test and coping a math problem off some one else. You get a zero and a report in your file for cheating even though you were the one that did the homework and let someone else copy it.

Kids who have been in trouble do get signed. Most of the ones I know have changed plans due to scholarships revoked, but usually got a second chance. One had his ACC NLI recinded, ending up Big 12, all conference and a 2007 1st round pick as a junior. He probably should have been in jail the last 3 years for what he did, imo.

If the kid is good enough he can find a place to play. Coaches call them "axe murderers", code for trouble.

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Originally posted by CPLZ:
I always liked the standard of...would you approve of him dating your daughter?

I'm not sure that would leave enough candidates to field a team. Boy, would you like to see my shotgun collection?

If I were a college coach I would look at it on a case by case basis. I do not believe that just because a kid makes a mistake in life he should have his opportunities taken away from him. I would look at what happened , when it happened , how he handled it , what has he done since the incident etc etc. There are alot of kids that have never been in trouble but only because they were not caught. Maybe a kid that has been caught has learned a valuable lesson and will be less likely to let it happen again? Im not for taking thugs that are constantly in trouble and have no character. But I also believe in second chances and those that learn from their mistakes need someone to believe in them. jmho

Well said, Coach May

" should colleges recruit a troubled prospect? "

Define " troubled ".

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Such as DWI's, theft and drug use.

....thats a pretty broad view.

What about plagiarism, assault, disorderly conduct, etc.????

I think each scenario should be dealt with individually,...case by case. JMHO.

We spend most of our kids life keeping them away from bad influenecs. I certainly would nor want him playing with a troubled player. I know my son would not want that kind of guy around either. His roommates have been outstanding young men so far.

People Please, How do you know what child your child is playing with??

Did we not all watch "Leave it to Beaver" when we were growing up.
Do you, Are Do you not remember Eddie Haskel.

He wasn't a bad kid, Just needed some guidance.

Take the time to understand the situation.
JMHO
EH