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Rose was great before he gambled. Should he be in? Not in my book.

Bonds was great before the 'roids. Should he be in?
Not in my book.

I also exclude Palmeiro and McGuire, and as much as I personally suspect Sosa, no evidence, and no wishy-washy testimony (a la McGuire)makes it tougher.

Maybe a special exhibit would be in order for all of these guys...next to the juice machines.


Very controversial topic here. JMHO.
I thought steroids were against the rules when he broke the record, but they just couldn't test for them. I say he should be in because of his numbers before roids. There was no penalty to ban a player if he used steroids. It's not the same as Pete Rose, who broke a rule stating if done so you willbe removed from baseball. Steroid is a drug, as is cocaine and heroin, if he would have been addicted to cocaine and his career ended would we talk about this? Would he be excluded from the hall because he was addicted to cocaine even if he had the numbers? There were also pitchers who were juicing, meaning he may have been hitting bombs off cheaters like himself. I dont believe major league baseball has the authority to rid Bond's of what he deserves if the rule's didn't state they could do so. In my opinion and as much as I hate Bonds, he had the numbers before using 'roids, he deserves to get in.
I don't like Barry Bonds.

That being said, I think he is a lock for the HOF. Baseball did not have a policy (rule) against steroid use when he was likely doing it. He broke the law of the land (as many HOF inductees have). He didn't break a rule of the game.

The difference between the 'roid heads and Rose is that Rose broke a specific rule that baseball has had in place for years.

As much as I don't like it, I don't think you put an * beside his numbers either. You don't * a guy because he did something you didn't like, agree with, or thought hurt the game. You only * someone if they broke the rules at that time.
Before I vote I would like to see the outcome of the MLB investigation to be counducted by the ex-Senator, Disney Board member, and small %baseball owner who sees no conflict. Once that is over, all caught in the net using illegal durgs [either banned by law or banned by baseball] and/or refusing to cooperate in the investigation should not be allowed to be voted on [like Pete Rose]. Those not caught and cooperative, should be voted on and if the numbers are there, they should get in. We got to clean this up people.

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