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Smokeless tobacco

TPMTPMHSBaseballweb Member since 2003
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Originally posted by Eephus:
Long time reader here, 1st post.
Boy 1 pitched mid-level D1 one
Boy 2 is a lefty hitting 1B at a D2 power

Boy 1 played around with chew in HS, all the kids were doing it. He got away from it and focused on playing. First year at college he was hurt and had to redshirt. His injury required a cast so no playing, minimal drills but a lot of free time. About 90% of the team dipped. Idle hands, light depression and wanting to be one of the guys led him back to dip but this time it took. By the time he was home for the summer, he was addicted. Every spare buck he had was going to cans of the stuff. Dental hygenist noticed and warned of the problems but he wasn't hearing it. Mom was on his case constantly, didn't matter. One thing led to another and he started with alcohol and even tried pot until we caught him and the ultimate blowout occured. He finally admitted a problem and agreed to counseling.It took several months and a few more slips but he put it behind him. He stayed straight, (as far as we could tell- and we were looking), graduated and got a good job. His college career was successful but middle of the road. We are convinced he would not have continued on the team if he didn't get off the stuff.

Boy 2 saw the turmoil - so far so good with him. He takes his share of derision from his teammates for not going with the flow but appears to have seen the downside of it and avoids it.

I hate the stuff - I wish it was banned and enforced but like anything, there are other options, many are no better. Education, support, guidance and a bit of hope all come into play...


Welcome.
Thanks for sharing your story however I highly doubt that dip led him to alcohol addiction and trying pot use.

I think this was one of the things that some folks were saying here in this topic, once your kids go off to college, or leave home, they are exposed to many things, and being on the bb team doesn't mean they won't have choices to make.

Again speak to your kids about what lies in front of them prepare and educate them to make good choices, however, remember that you can't be there 24/7 you have to trust them to make decisions on their own.
G gotwood4sale10,000+ posts
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    "...smelling chew and salmon salad is almost a more disgusting..."


Yeah it was bad on the rare Oregon Coast summer day that turned out to be hot. All of the windows on our crew rig were rolled down and the Forest Tech, who chewed and always drove on those occasional hot days, would let loose often and anoint the two or three of us college students sitting in the back.

There's not too much that could have come out of his mouth that would have been more revolting. We were relieved to find out that the unusual looking spheres pelting our foreheads were actually pickled capers from the salad and not some part of the Tech's dental work looking for freedom from that slimy miasma!

Many guys who work in the woods chew because they can't smoke during fire season. It's no surprise that I was never interested in the stuff.



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KC DawgKC Dawg100+ posts
They sure are enforcing it at my son's high school. It's listed as the #3 rule on the team's rules (alcohol and drugs listed there as well). I guess one of the kid's didn't believe it about the tobacco and tried to push his luck. He was a sophmore that played JV last year but was dismissed from the team the second day of tryouts. Not sure if there was more to the story, but I hear he was a good kid and a good player. It's a shame, but at least he's on a good summer team and hopefully this will motivate him to stop. As a former smoker, I can tell you that quitting is not easy.
E EephusMember
quote:
Welcome.
Thanks for sharing your story however I highly doubt that dip led him to alcohol addiction and trying pot use.

I think this was one of the things that some folks were saying here in this topic, once your kids go off to college, or leave home, they are exposed to many things, and being on the bb team doesn't mean they won't have choices to make.

Again speak to your kids about what lies in front of them prepare and educate them to make good choices, however, remember that you can't be there 24/7 you have to trust them to make decisions on their own.



I sure don't think tobacco alone led to experimentation with alcohol and other things. I believe the idle time and depression from not playing and just being "one of the guys" contributed just as much. That said, tobacco does give a buzz and feeling good can come from many sources. Once you try something, the next step is sometimes an easier one to convince yourself to take. We are not their guardian angels and can only hope they make the right choices. I know I made my share of mistakes, he made his. Fortunately, the resolution was favorable in our case. It isn't always.
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