Probably time to close this one out....or at least lighten it up.
Woody? Got anything in the files to help?
quote:Originally posted by baseballguy:
Probably time to close this one out....or at least lighten it up.
Woody? Got anything in the files to help?
Finally a sensible post.
For the record, I hardly ever feel a topic should be closed unless it can be proven that someone is flat out lying, misrepresenting who they are, and/or has an agenda.
I feel the same way about running people off the site just because some might not like what they post. IMO, I believe those who do nothing except take advantage of this site to advertise/profit shouldn't be able to do that without Julie's permission.
To me, the criteria for closing a thread or eliminating a poster should revolve around the motive of that poster.
There has never been a moderator, even Julie or Bob who can say that I've ever asked for any post or thread to be closed or deleted. We understand that not everyone is a PG fan. We understand that PG is not the answer for everyone. We also know that agendas exist. I am more for exposing the poster in that case.
In another thread on "Recruiting" that was suggested early on as "Golden" started by "samiam321" turned sour. It appears that "samiam" gave up and left the site, but the thread continued on. Truth is, I have read much worse on this site many times. I'm not for running anyone off, much rather get to the bottom of things.
Harv, if your apology is sincere I do accept it.
I feel the same way about running people off the site just because some might not like what they post. IMO, I believe those who do nothing except take advantage of this site to advertise/profit shouldn't be able to do that without Julie's permission.
To me, the criteria for closing a thread or eliminating a poster should revolve around the motive of that poster.
There has never been a moderator, even Julie or Bob who can say that I've ever asked for any post or thread to be closed or deleted. We understand that not everyone is a PG fan. We understand that PG is not the answer for everyone. We also know that agendas exist. I am more for exposing the poster in that case.
In another thread on "Recruiting" that was suggested early on as "Golden" started by "samiam321" turned sour. It appears that "samiam" gave up and left the site, but the thread continued on. Truth is, I have read much worse on this site many times. I'm not for running anyone off, much rather get to the bottom of things.
Harv, if your apology is sincere I do accept it.
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With that said PG, I'd keep a sharp eye out for anyone with an IP address coming from anywhere near here...
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- "For the record, I hardly ever feel a topic should be closed unless it can be proven that someone is flat out lying, misrepresenting who they are, and/or has an agenda."
With that said PG, I'd keep a sharp eye out for anyone with an IP address coming from anywhere near here...
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I don't agree with closing out topics either. Especially if its just because some don't seem to like the questions or opinion posed, but it just seems that some threads start to degenerate into personal attacks with no real substance. That can become a problem if this forum doesn't have any Moderators.
quote:Originally posted by New2This:
I don't agree with closing out topics either. Especially if its just because some don't seem to like the questions or opinion posed, but it just seems that some threads start to degenerate into personal attacks with no real substance. That can become a problem if this forum doesn't have any Moderators.
I am a moderator on this site and I can assure everyone that we (all moderators) do not like to close threads either. Every time a thread is closed, the moderater who closed it receives criticism. I was tempted to close this one the first time Harv posted but figured PG was the best one to respond. He handled things wonderfully imho.
All that said, we ought to have little tolerance for rudeness and impoliteness imho. People can disagree until the cows come home but it ought to be done in a civil manner imho. Harv's post and others like it seem to have an agenda and that seems to be to embarrass. I don't see why any of us need to put up with that. Since I believe in free speech (to its logical extent without causing harm) feel free to disagree with my opinions
Should add another opinion.
The moderators here do a great job with very little thanks. Whether we would agree with decisions or not I know there comes a time when things are done in the best interest of most everyone.
The moderators here do a great job with very little thanks. Whether we would agree with decisions or not I know there comes a time when things are done in the best interest of most everyone.
Folks, some of you know that I'm the owner and administrator of the site. In that role, I sometimes accidentally receive emails which were not intended for me, but are sent to the administrative email address which I monitor, hsbaseballweb@comcast.net.
Harv has sent several of those mis-directed emails in the past few days. Coincidentally, each of those accidental emails from Harv (which were intended to go to members here) attempts to discredit Perfect Game. What a coincidence.
PGStaff, you are a very, very patient man.
Julie
Harv has sent several of those mis-directed emails in the past few days. Coincidentally, each of those accidental emails from Harv (which were intended to go to members here) attempts to discredit Perfect Game. What a coincidence.
PGStaff, you are a very, very patient man.
Julie
Well I guess I didn't know that.
Thanks Julie
Harv, Could you PM me and tell me why you're going to such an effort doing that? Though, I have a pretty good idea.
Thanks Julie
Harv, Could you PM me and tell me why you're going to such an effort doing that? Though, I have a pretty good idea.
quote:Originally posted by MN-Mom:
Folks, some of you know that I'm the owner and administrator of the site. In that role, I sometimes accidentally receive emails which were not intended for me, but are sent to the administrative email address which I monitor, hsbaseballweb@comcast.net.
Harv has sent several of those mis-directed emails in the past few days. Coincidentally, each of those accidental emails from Harv (which were intended to go to members here) attempts to discredit Perfect Game. What a coincidence.
PGStaff, you are a very, very patient man.
Julie
By demonstrating his agenda through those emails, I believe Harv has shown to what little extent his opinon and posts should receive consideration.
PG and others,
I got a pm from Harv, actually apologizing that he may have offended me, do not know if anyone else got one or not, however, told him it was not what he posted but how it was posted, sounded derogatory towards PG. Enough said.
Seems to me Harv is a bit confused as to what exactly what each rating means? I don't read ratings on players, but I told him there must be an explanation or scale, somewhere.
He was wondering why a 16 year old throwing 87 got a 9.5, and I told him I do belive that ratings are on future potential, is that correct?
FWIW, I also told him that as far as I was concerned, from my own players experience with PG, pretty accurate.
Just seems like there are lots of odd posts these days (which there always are in the off season), either going after the old timers or PG.
I am even wondering if some are one and the same.
JMO.
I got a pm from Harv, actually apologizing that he may have offended me, do not know if anyone else got one or not, however, told him it was not what he posted but how it was posted, sounded derogatory towards PG. Enough said.
Seems to me Harv is a bit confused as to what exactly what each rating means? I don't read ratings on players, but I told him there must be an explanation or scale, somewhere.
He was wondering why a 16 year old throwing 87 got a 9.5, and I told him I do belive that ratings are on future potential, is that correct?
FWIW, I also told him that as far as I was concerned, from my own players experience with PG, pretty accurate.
Just seems like there are lots of odd posts these days (which there always are in the off season), either going after the old timers or PG.
I am even wondering if some are one and the same.
JMO.
Since Harv is a little better understood, and it's realized that he meant no harm, maybe the first three responses on this thread can be reconsidered or deleted.
I still dont understand a thing that Harv posted.
His posts insinuate things that are - quite simply - false. They are accusatory in nature - and based on statements that are just totally false.
Even giving him the benefit of the doubt - a reasonable person would be obligated to question motive.
Just my opinion.
His posts insinuate things that are - quite simply - false. They are accusatory in nature - and based on statements that are just totally false.
Even giving him the benefit of the doubt - a reasonable person would be obligated to question motive.
Just my opinion.
I am NOT sticking up for Harv, he just might not understand.
A 16 year old throws 87 in a game and gets creamed, can't throw strikes. An 18 year old comes in 82 velo and wins the game. I am not sure if Harv understands why the 16 year old got a better rating. Just used that as a example, whether it be Harv or anyone else, it can be confusing.
A 16 year old throws 87 in a game and gets creamed, can't throw strikes. An 18 year old comes in 82 velo and wins the game. I am not sure if Harv understands why the 16 year old got a better rating. Just used that as a example, whether it be Harv or anyone else, it can be confusing.
Think about it a moment---every post that HARV makes is "inflammatory"---
Inflammatory?
