Switchhitter,
No long toss and no bands, no arm strenghtening no pitching yet, just doing what everyday? I am not following this. Hard core practice is not the answer, trying to get in months work of time and then do it all at once?
That's not all of the coaches fault either, players are supposed to be prepared.
As far as being afraid to go to the doctor for fear of sitting the bench, it doesn't matter, an injury will take care of that sooner or later.
switchitter
Your responses continue to show your true character
bong water???
Your responses continue to show your true character
bong water???
Maybe Im not getting this thread, but arms should not be this sore continuously. A little sore at beginning of season maybe, but if your doing long toss in the fall at the very least, and then you (or we) have a month of just conditioning and the boys always stay after and throw long toss.
Hard core practices 6 days a week? for hs freshmen?
If my sons arm was this sore that he had to take advil or whatever on a daily basis , I think I would have him see a doctor and get some PT.
Hard core practices 6 days a week? for hs freshmen?
If my sons arm was this sore that he had to take advil or whatever on a daily basis , I think I would have him see a doctor and get some PT.
quote:Originally posted by TPM:
Switchhitter,
No long toss and no bands, no arm strenghtening no pitching yet, just doing what everyday? I am not following this. Hard core practice is not the answer, trying to get in months work of time and then do it all at once?
That's not all of the coaches fault either, players are supposed to be prepared.
As far as being afraid to go to the doctor for fear of sitting the bench, it doesn't matter, an injury will take care of that sooner or later.
Coaches cannot be a mother, father, and trainer, naturally. They must get the team prepared for the season and within the rules. High School Athletic Associations can be faulted to a certain degree because they allow a team to have 12 true days of practice before first game. Everything has to be compressed into a very short time frame. I agree that an injury will take care of sitting the bench; That should be fear enough to work in the off-season with bands and long-toss. But you can only push the kids so much, they have to want to do it or it generally won't happen.
TRhit: Too many times your responses are intended to incite but not educate. You can take your **** elsewhere.
quote:Originally posted by switchitter:
But you can only push the kids so much, they have to want to do it or it generally won't happen.
Kids do not know how to properly prepare their bodies, they need help and direction. That should come either from the coach or the parent. If you have to push your player to do something, then maybe he really doesn't understand that it's not all about playing the game, but preparing for it and his position as well.
You and TR are both pushing each others buttons but that doesn't seem to solve the problem at hand, popping pain relievers and ice more than necessary is not going to solve the issue either.
And he hasn't begun pitching yet. Throwing is a gradual conditioning excercise and there should be NO discomfort.
quote:Originally posted by TPM:quote:Originally posted by switchitter:
But you can only push the kids so much, they have to want to do it or it generally won't happen.
Kids do not know how to properly prepare their bodies, they need help and direction. That should come either from the coach or the parent. If you have to push your player to do something, then maybe he really doesn't understand that it's not all about playing the game, but preparing for it and his position as well.
You and TR are both pushing each others buttons but that doesn't seem to solve the problem at hand, popping pain relievers and ice more than necessary is not going to solve the issue either.
And he hasn't begun pitching yet. Throwing is a gradual conditioning excercise and there should be NO discomfort.
I think kids need to learn more about how to train their bodies but that is also a gradual thing and thus, like you say, parents and coaches come in to play. Using bands has been something I preach a bunch but it happens and then slacks off. Long toss is not practical in cold weather winter climate but indoor throwing routines make up SOME for that. It's really hard to get them to stick to a routine because we become the evil Dad trying to control their every move. So, while I agree to a certain extent, I have to say that just because they don't stick with something doesnt mean they aren't motivated or have passion for baseball preparation (not that you said that).
shouldn't the player have a duty to have their arm's somewhat ready for tryouts ? like doing your homework for math class,shouldn't their arm's be ready for baseball?
in my own son's tryout lives. many players arm's were not ready for baseball. being in a cold weather state your inside all winter. our local baseball training facility made it affordable for hs kids to workout/throw. nobody was turned away,yet maybe 4 of them did it. there isn't an over abundance of time for the players to get ready to tryout. if you didn't do it in the off season your arm hasn't thrown anything for a few months.
with the season being so short you compress everything into a few months. most don't realize the importance of stretching and warming up,and go full tilt right off. so just a few thoughts.
1(is it realistic to expect a player have his arm loose/and to be baseball ready?
2(is it realistic to expect a coach to make you the best player you can be, in this time frame?
3( if your son wasn't ready,is it realistic to complain about his not making the team/ playing time.
in my own son's tryout lives. many players arm's were not ready for baseball. being in a cold weather state your inside all winter. our local baseball training facility made it affordable for hs kids to workout/throw. nobody was turned away,yet maybe 4 of them did it. there isn't an over abundance of time for the players to get ready to tryout. if you didn't do it in the off season your arm hasn't thrown anything for a few months.
with the season being so short you compress everything into a few months. most don't realize the importance of stretching and warming up,and go full tilt right off. so just a few thoughts.
1(is it realistic to expect a player have his arm loose/and to be baseball ready?
2(is it realistic to expect a coach to make you the best player you can be, in this time frame?
3( if your son wasn't ready,is it realistic to complain about his not making the team/ playing time.