Summer Before Freshman Year

Our college coaches told us that we would talk to them after the high school season was over.  He is having the option of working to be a two-way player so they said at the least he needs to work on hitting at a high level.  He will probably not throw other than maybe a few innings this summer.  He has to be at his college on July 8th so that will determine most of the summer.  I would suggest having him contact his college coaches so they can advise him plus it also will build a relationship with them and let them know he is interested in his future and being prepared. 

What does his college coach suggest?

He asked his coach and we agreed to discuss as the summer draws close.  He suggested legion, as we can control the innings and it allows him to enjoy one last summer with friends.

But I think I've read here that some have thought that summer was a waste and if they could do it over again, they would have focused on training instead.

Different for each young man. Son had a last hurrah with his travel team. Allowed him to hit and play in the field one last time. 

The kid played three full tournaments and part of another then headed to campus for the second round of classes at summer school  Getting on campus and getting into the routine of college, getting to know the town,  and meeting his fellow freshman and coaching staff was a huge plus. 

Depends on how many innings he throws. Knock on wood, if things go well it will be 80-90*, in which case he wouldn't pitch in the summer. 

*last year was 75, and then he threw 18 more in the summer

We're trying to get our kid into his college's summer school program and just train.  Limited slots available so may not happen (priority given to football, basketball, hockey and all other sports it seems). If not, I thought our kids would be on the same Futures team this summer!

Lots of threads in here about this topic with good information. 

My son's future school indicated they would prefer he not play in the summer (he's a PO).  They would send him a throwing regimen to undertake beginning in July so that he's ready to begin pitching again in September for fall baseball.  That feels right to me, since the fall is so important in terms of evaluating what a player's role will be in the spring.  I imagine this is very pitcher-specific as there's nothing but upside for a position player to play the summer before school unless injury is a concern.

Legion? Your son is heading to college, he should not be playing against 16 year olds. Plus the good high schoolers will be traveling playing against competition. Playing against JV players won't help him get ready for his 22 year old teammates with full beards he'll be competing with for playing time starting in August. I get wanting to play with friends, but once HS ends, it ends. 

For our 2019. Coach told him to take up to July 4th weekend to take some time off and do what he had to do (make some money working, vacations, friends) and after that get on campus for summer classes and start throwing/working out again getting ready for fall ball. 

My 2018 grad (P.O.) played in a local collegiate league.   Was one of the best things he did to get him ready for school.   Getting to face college competition as well as being forced to interact with kids 2-3 years older was very beneficial.   

My son's college coach wants him playing high level travel ball again and he will be catching 3 of his future teammates this summer and hitting against good pitching all summer sure won't hurt!

PABaseball posted:

Legion? Your son is heading to college, he should not be playing against 16 year olds. Plus the good high schoolers will be traveling playing against competition. Playing against JV players won't help him get ready for his 22 year old teammates with full beards he'll be competing with for playing time starting in August. I get wanting to play with friends, but once HS ends, it ends. 

I would agree with this...there are plenty of opportunities available for kids to play 18U baseball....especially as a pitcher.  The summer after my son's senior year he played on an 18U team that probably used 18-20 pitchers in 5 weeks just due to the fact that every kid wanted to throw some....but none wanted to throw a lot.  Most of the 18U teams are made of almost solely of kids who will be heading off to college at some level.....as opposed to Legion teams who may have HS sophomores and juniors who aren't even top level HS kids.    I wouldn't think it'd be hard to find a team willing to take on another college-bound pitcher....even if your son tells them he is on a strict innings count

Here in Iowa, we play summer baseball in HS, so the HS team was going through mid-July, followed by all-stars. And since he's going to Iowa, they obviously understand the schedule here.

Asking the coaches what they want seems like the best idea to me.

One thing I have been struck by though is that he is still throwing. All that down time that I was so adamant about when he was home, seems to be unnecessary in college.

Iowamom23 posted:

Here in Iowa, we play summer baseball in HS, so the HS team was going through mid-July, followed by all-stars. And since he's going to Iowa, they obviously understand the schedule here.

Asking the coaches what they want seems like the best idea to me.

One thing I have been struck by though is that he is still throwing. All that down time that I was so adamant about when he was home, seems to be unnecessary in college.

 

Yeah, that's why I want him to take it easy during the summer, because they'll be throwing nonstop once on campus.

PABaseball posted:

Legion? Your son is heading to college, he should not be playing against 16 year olds. Plus the good high schoolers will be traveling playing against competition. Playing against JV players won't help him get ready for his 22 year old teammates with full beards he'll be competing with for playing time starting in August. I get wanting to play with friends, but once HS ends, it ends. 

OP is in one of the stronger states for American Legion. Though the numbers are down from several years ago, there are still several players that go onto play D1 or otherwise college ball. Again, here is an example where pitchers and position players are handled differently summer after HS. Position players should still get swings and repetitions (unless arm is sore). Son (middle infielder) got no regiment from college coach except for come in healthy and don't try lifting/working out differently than you have (avoiding over exertion).

Ripken Fan posted:

PABaseball posted:

Legion? Your son is heading to college, he should not be playing against 16 year olds. Plus the good high schoolers will be traveling playing against competition. Playing against JV players won't help him get ready for his 22 year old teammates with full beards he'll be competing with for playing time starting in August. I get wanting to play with friends, but once HS ends, it ends. 

OP is in one of the stronger states for American Legion. Though the numbers are down from several years ago, there are still several players that go onto play D1 or otherwise college ball. Again, here is an example where pitchers and position players are handled differently summer after HS. Position players should still get swings and repetitions (unless arm is sore). Son (middle infielder) got no regiment from college coach except for come in healthy and don't try lifting/working out differently than you have (avoiding over exertion).

The best players in any state are not playing legion, they are with their travel teams. Regardless, how many graduated seniors are playing legion? Every player he faces will be younger than him. There are still 14/15 year olds playing in the league. Graduate, move on from the HS playing days and start getting ready for college hitters. If he wants innings, grab 3 or 4 college/college bound players and throw live ABs once a week. 

Depends on college he is attending and what school wants. My son (PO) was told by HC that he would place him in a collegiate league for the summer so like other people have mentioned, he can start throwing against 22 year olds and coach can control his innings. He asked my son his opinion though and when son said he would do what coach recommended, coach said hands down a collegiate league.