As the football season winds down we all become "armchair" experts. With that said
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Who goes to Dallas?
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Who goes to Dallas?
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The game's in Arlington....no not the cemetary, Woodward. 
Here are the prognosticators picking The Packers...
And these fine gents, well, they picked...
Da Bears!
And these fine gents, well, they picked...
Da Bears!
Steelers-Packers. I don't like Jay Cutler. (I'm still waiting for him to mess up, badly.) I love the conference championships, though. I'm hoping for good games.
CPLZ, the ACL surgery thread got me thinking about that guy from the Bears who had something like 15 knee operations in 10 years. Was it Dan Hampton? Is he still around? I can't imagine how his knees feel, now.
CPLZ, the ACL surgery thread got me thinking about that guy from the Bears who had something like 15 knee operations in 10 years. Was it Dan Hampton? Is he still around? I can't imagine how his knees feel, now.
Mark Schlereth of the Redskins and Broncos had 29 surgeries, 20 on his knees (15 left, 5 right). He's now a football analyst for ESPN. His son pitches for the Tigers. Dan Hampton ONLY had twelve knee surgeries.quote:Originally posted by AntzDad:
Steelers-Packers. I don't like Jay Cutler. (I'm still waiting for him to mess up, badly.) I love the conference championships, though. I'm hoping for good games.
CPLZ, the ACL surgery thread got me thinking about that guy from the Bears who had something like 15 knee operations in 10 years. Was it Dan Hampton? Is he still around? I can't imagine how his knees feel, now.
Mark Schlereth of the Redskins and Broncos had 29 surgeries, 20 on his knees (15 left, 5 right).
Ouch. That must be why I don't remember much about his playing days.
RJM- got it.
Ouch. That must be why I don't remember much about his playing days.
RJM- got it.
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Aaron Rodgers is a surgeon. The Bears have a fine defense but...
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He's definitely playing better than Cutler.
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He's definitely playing better than Cutler.
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The Packers and .....the Winner of the Jets/Steelers game!
I'm hoping for Packers/Jets, but I'm not sure I can handle all that Green on the field at one time? Big Ben and that Steel Curtain D will be tough to beat at Heinz Field...should be PHYSICAL!!!
I'm hoping for Packers/Jets, but I'm not sure I can handle all that Green on the field at one time? Big Ben and that Steel Curtain D will be tough to beat at Heinz Field...should be PHYSICAL!!!
Cutler has everything you want in a QB from the physical side of the equation. And none of what you want and need from the QB as far as a leader. He comes across as a spoiled brat that is playing for himself. He does not inspire his team mates. Unless he can change that and I dont think a person can, Chicago will never win a championship with him.
A QB must be a leader. He must inspire his team. Big Ben will lead his team to a win tonight. And the Steelers will beat the Packers in a slugfest for another championship.
A QB must be a leader. He must inspire his team. Big Ben will lead his team to a win tonight. And the Steelers will beat the Packers in a slugfest for another championship.
I agree with you Coach. I was thinking the same thing as I was watching Cutler on the sidelines. I don't know the nature of his injury...but I'd think the leader of the offense would have tried to tough it out a little? You'd think he would of rallied his teammates around him and said..."Hey, I'm not mobile right now fellas, I need to stay in the pocket. But if you protect me and give me time, I'll help lead us to Victory!" Unfortunately, this is what I see in Cutler...great talent, with a tremendous toolbox, but doesn't appear to have much heart!?
Phillip Rivers played his tail off a couple years ago with a torn ACL. Ronnie Lott had a portion of his pinky removed so that he can continue on. Jack Youngblood played with a Broken Ankle...and there are many others!
Tonight we're watching Big Ben who looked pretty hurt a few minutes ago...and now the man is running for first downs in the middle of the field!
Phillip Rivers played his tail off a couple years ago with a torn ACL. Ronnie Lott had a portion of his pinky removed so that he can continue on. Jack Youngblood played with a Broken Ankle...and there are many others!
Tonight we're watching Big Ben who looked pretty hurt a few minutes ago...and now the man is running for first downs in the middle of the field!
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Coach Jimmy Johnson's post-game remarks concerning Cutler's leadership ability were pretty much the same as the comments the two of you have made. He thinks Cutler has a lot of work and soul searching to do in the off season.
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Coach Jimmy Johnson's post-game remarks concerning Cutler's leadership ability were pretty much the same as the comments the two of you have made. He thinks Cutler has a lot of work and soul searching to do in the off season.
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quote:Originally posted by Coach_May:
A QB must be a leader. He must inspire his team. Big Ben will lead his team to a win tonight. And the Steelers will beat the Packers in a slugfest for another championship.
Cutler had a way better year than I thought he could, but he has never impressed me as the QB who wants the ball when the game is on the line. Who remembers Byron Leftwich playing for Marshall with a broken leg? As the clock ticked toward zero, his teammates carried him down the field on the game winning drive.
Hard to spot Pittsburgh such big lead and beat them, but the Jets made the second half interesting. The Steelers stop on fourth and goal was huge.
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Yikes! Cutler is in for some rough sledding!
Some Bear fans' reaction to Cutler not playing in the second half...
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Yikes! Cutler is in for some rough sledding!
Some Bear fans' reaction to Cutler not playing in the second half...
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I hope its more than a bruise. His team mates have sure come out in support of him. Thats always a good thing.
As for Cutler, when the going gets tough, quit. Cutler didn't appear interested to give it a shot. Who couldn't see that. But that's no surprise with him.
quote:Originally posted by AntzDad:
Steelers-Packers. I don't like Jay Cutler. (I'm still waiting for him to mess up, badly.) I love the conference championships, though. I'm hoping for good games.
CPLZ, the ACL surgery thread got me thinking about that guy from the Bears who had something like 15 knee operations in 10 years. Was it Dan Hampton? Is he still around? I can't imagine how his knees feel, now.
A few years ago I read an interview/article in the Arkansas Democarat Gazette of the Arkansas native. He was retired and had a ranch north of Little Rock close to Jacksonville. The price of a life long football player has taken a toll on his physical body. Those who are familiar with his career can say he gave it his all in all...can only imagine what kind of ranch he has.
antz, Hampton does live in Arkansas now and I think it was 11 knee surgeries. We hear him all the time in Chicago as he comments on the score radio, always fun to hear him.
As far as Cutler, I don't think the bears even make it to this game if he is not there.
His toughness? 52 sacks this year, 9 in the first half off the Giants game with a concussion and still trying to get on the field. 2 years of getting his brains beat in with this offensive line. Look at the time the Stealers qb had. It looked like the Beras were trying to get him back out on a sloppy field with no footing and when it didn;t work the coaches made a decision to switch as if his knee was not working and he could not move out of the pocket effectively he was not going to help the "team" as the pocket was collapsing on every play. With Hainey moving around it at least gave them a chance. So maybe they pulled him for the team.
As far as leadership all I hear from his teammates is that he is a leader, Kreutz, Urlacher all defending him both as a leader and his toughness. I will listen to them over the Jimmy of the world that don't like him because he is not a good interview.
As a leader he organized the receivers in the off season for extra workouts to learn the Martz system all on their own time.
His toughness? 52 sacks this year, 9 in the first half off the Giants game with a concussion and still trying to get on the field. 2 years of getting his brains beat in with this offensive line. Look at the time the Stealers qb had. It looked like the Beras were trying to get him back out on a sloppy field with no footing and when it didn;t work the coaches made a decision to switch as if his knee was not working and he could not move out of the pocket effectively he was not going to help the "team" as the pocket was collapsing on every play. With Hainey moving around it at least gave them a chance. So maybe they pulled him for the team.
As far as leadership all I hear from his teammates is that he is a leader, Kreutz, Urlacher all defending him both as a leader and his toughness. I will listen to them over the Jimmy of the world that don't like him because he is not a good interview.
As a leader he organized the receivers in the off season for extra workouts to learn the Martz system all on their own time.
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Good points 2bagger.
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Good points 2bagger.
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