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Originally Posted by NYdad2017:

I am certainly no swing guru, but I will point out something I saw.  On the 2nd at bat you were all arms, no lower half.  Your legs are strong I'm sure.  Get them involved.

I'm not sure I understand. Was the first swing a better use of my lower half? They are strong, I'd like to start generating more power with them. hahaha.

Appreciate it. 

My suggestion is that you quit with the fake bunt on 3-0.  IMO, it's kinda Little League-ish.  Besides, the P is usually going to try to throw the same pitch in the same location on the next pitch.  You should be getting a really good look at the pitch, time it and envision yourself driving the next one.

Swing is fine.  I think the reason the second hit looks a bit handsy is because the pitch is up.

Little League? I just think there's a difference between little league and trying to get on base?  I did get a good look at because, indeed he threw the same pitch 3-1 and I drove it for a knock. Thank's for the feedback though (seriously)-- I think you we're spot on with the anaylis of the 2nd hit. It was high, I kinda had to reach for it so my lower half Trailed my Hands.  Appreciated Cabbagedad! Thanks.

You seem to have decent intent. That's something that you can't teach. The mechanics, on the other hand, could use some work. I believe you want to use your lower body, just nobody has taught you how to do so. You need to resist rotation of the hips. Coil the hip, pull back with the pelvis, pull back with the scapula, and turn the barrel. Pretty straightforward, though doing it consistently is very tough.

Originally Posted by Low Finish:

You seem to have decent intent. That's something that you can't teach. The mechanics, on the other hand, could use some work. I believe you want to use your lower body, just nobody has taught you how to do so. You need to resist rotation of the hips. Coil the hip, pull back with the pelvis, pull back with the scapula, and turn the barrel. Pretty straightforward, though doing it consistently is very tough.

Intent? Not sure what you mean? Thank's for the tips. Really Appreciate it.

Originally Posted by NYdad2017:

I am certainly no swing guru, but I will point out something I saw.  On the 2nd at bat you were all arms, no lower half.  Your legs are strong I'm sure.  Get them involved.

Cabbagedad was spot on......pitch was elevated and outside.  If you slow video down several times as you approach 2:41, there is nice incorporation of lower half at impact.  Swing looks very good which was evident in how you put a nice rope on the ball.  Keep working hard with plenty of T-work and reps.

Originally Posted by 4baseknock:
Originally Posted by NYdad2017:

I am certainly no swing guru, but I will point out something I saw.  On the 2nd at bat you were all arms, no lower half.  Your legs are strong I'm sure.  Get them involved.

Cabbagedad was spot on......pitch was elevated and outside.  If you slow video down several times as you approach 2:41, there is nice incorporation of lower half at impact.  Swing looks very good which was evident in how you put a nice rope on the ball.  Keep working hard with plenty of T-work and reps.

Appreciate it! I know you prob. can't tell from the video but that ball hit off the bottom outfield fence on the fly. Pretty close to being out. Thanks Again! Will do!

Originally Posted by Batting Cages Inc.:

I agree with both cabbagedad. The second pitch was elevated, causing your swing to look more "handsy." Overall, it looks like a pretty good swing, and you made great contact.

 

Like low finish said though, remember to coil the hip, pull back with the pelvis, pull back with the scapula, and turn the barrel.

Do you understand the concepts behind the pull backs?

Originally Posted by Low Finish:
Originally Posted by Batting Cages Inc.:

I agree with both cabbagedad. The second pitch was elevated, causing your swing to look more "handsy." Overall, it looks like a pretty good swing, and you made great contact.

 

Like low finish said though, remember to coil the hip, pull back with the pelvis, pull back with the scapula, and turn the barrel.

Do you understand the concepts behind the pull backs?

I understand the steps. Wouldn't mind some elaboration on it?

Originally Posted by LorenzoSupino:
Originally Posted by Low Finish:
Originally Posted by Batting Cages Inc.:

I agree with both cabbagedad. The second pitch was elevated, causing your swing to look more "handsy." Overall, it looks like a pretty good swing, and you made great contact.

 

Like low finish said though, remember to coil the hip, pull back with the pelvis, pull back with the scapula, and turn the barrel.

Do you understand the concepts behind the pull backs?

I understand the steps. Wouldn't mind some elaboration on it?

I don't have problems with Great contact, I'm not trying to sound cocky either. It's making contact. I hit alot of Gap, doubles, Triples and Ocassional homeruns. I just need to cut down on K's and make more contact. That's my goal here.

Originally Posted by floridafan:
Good to hear your not cocky! Lol!

An attitude is important in being a great hitter. What % of the time do you K, what % of time do you walk?

In 17 Games last year I K'd 14 times. hahahaha. I walked 9 times. I hit 417.  I hardly ever got out Via  Pop outs. Groundout's//K's accounted for alot of my out's.

I'll have my MaxPreps stats up this year.  

So let's say you're in your stance. You have about 60-40 on your back leg. The weight is not behind the instep of the foot. Now, try to turn the pelvis around that leg. It's impossible, but try. You'll feel tight in the hip socket. This is normal. Now, pull toward the dugout behind you with the pelvis. Pull it back and keep trying to pull it back... it'll stop moving after awhile. Pinch the scapula. There are a few ways to do it. Pull back with the top hand, slide the scapula around, etc. You'll feel tighter. Now, turn the barrel with the top hand. Your leg will drive. It won't feel like you're swinging.

you swing with your arms..that will be a problem as pitching gets faster and better.

try using your HANDS more and release them THRU the ball..GET WRISTY.

top hand drill only,try setting up a tee and grabbing a smaller bat that u can handle with one hand..put your left hand on your chest boob area..learn to build bat speed with the top hand..try not to use your arms when powering the ball

 

go on you tube and search for  My Hitting drills.MOV..good drills on using your hands

 

Last edited by wogdoggy


My guess is your K's are either when you're taking or swinging & missing on pitches lower in the strike zone?

 

I think it's because your swing is a bit stiff and controlled and the bat doesn't "whip" through the zone as much as you seem to 'pull" it or "guide" it through the zone?

 

Your follow-through really tells me that.

 

This happens to a lot of kids as they try to "find the ball" with the bat, instead of seeing it

and trusting the hands!

 

As has been said, let the lower half provide the propulsion, and let the hands drive through.

 

Loosen up the shoulders & hands and I think you'll make better contact.

 

Secondly, your back side load is really going to make you susceptible to the off-speed stuff. Get a better rhythm and stay back a bit longer.

 

Now follow me on this:

 

My guess is that your bat speed is fairly slow because you are restricting the swing with your arms & hands providing too much of the force.

So, to compensate, you load quicker and get out on your front side too soon. 
(see pop-up on first video) 

 

Sometimes, you can get away with that on a pitch up and out over the plate. (like the one the guy threw you on a 1-2 count)

 

But in on you is going to be a pop-up, and low and away is going to be a K or a ground ball to SS or 2nd.

 

If you use the lower half better, you will overcome that and the swing will be looser and easier but quicker through the zone. 

 

 

Good Luck, and remember:

 

"Trust the Hands"

Please stop the 3-0 fake bunt.

 

Higher velocity will probably get you.  I will add this, at toe touch, I feel your bat is too flat and wrapped around your head (in the BP swing).  This causes you to get "long" (and slow) when velocity is cranked up.  You didn't show that during the game swings so I am not sure if you do/don't do this regularly.

Originally Posted by redbird5:

Please stop the 3-0 fake bunt.

 

Higher velocity will probably get you.  I will add this, at toe touch, I feel your bat is too flat and wrapped around your head (in the BP swing).  This causes you to get "long" (and slow) when velocity is cranked up.  You didn't show that during the game swings so I am not sure if you do/don't do this regularly.

Pitching was just really slow that day. I harly ever ''Wrap''. The Offspeed got to m yesterday. 

Originally Posted by LorenzoSupino:

Pitching was just really slow that day. I harly ever ''Wrap''. The Offspeed got to m yesterday. 

Hard to guage much as your first swing was poor as you did not read the pitch well.  That pitch was low and hard to hit.  With respect to wrap of bat, I don't see that as an issue at all in your scrimmage video.  You could actually get a slightly better load with your hands and get the knob of the bat more focused on the catcher to get a better angle of your bat to increase the ultimate whip during the swing.  Your bat angle is not bad though.

 

Did see on both of your swings that your front foot was not down before you initiated your hands.  You are dead on off speed pitches if the hands start driftng before you get that front foot down. Need to be able to work against that front foot/firm front side to slow your hands/body down and adjust if you are fooled on an off speed pitch. Only chance you have to get a decent swing on it, which you did not do.

 

Keep working hard!

That was one funky swing!
First of all, unless the count was 0-2, you shouldn't be even thinking about swinging at that pitch with your current swing.  Wait for something up.
 
On the other hand, with a good load and good pitch recognition, it was a pitch that could be drilled to left.  stop it at the :08 mark and look at where your hands are.
 
As 4base said, your hands are moving way before the toe touch.  At toe touch, your hands should be over or even behind your back foot, with good balance and movement forward with backside and hips opening towards the pitcher.
 
But again, it was all arms, with no backside push or hip turn.
Remember, it's a "swing", not a "push". Let the hands go through.
 
You might try either spreading out your feet with a smaller stride/ toe tap (ala Jim Edmonds), or trying a higher leg kick with same stance (Ala Miguel Cabrera).  Both will force better balance as you start the swing with the hands.
 
Pitch recognition is the key. Longer you stay back and balanced, better you will be.  You are certainly strong enough to get around on any pitch you will see in HS.
 
A good drill would be the" half-swing". Either on a tee, or with soft-toss, just get to contact with the bat and stop. Keep doing it until you can get the bat to the zone with good swing plane and are hitting it fair. You will be amazed at how far the ball will go when you square it up even with no follow through!
 

Once you get that part down, then finish the swing on your next round.
 
Also, I would score that play as a CS, and E-5 or E-2. You were dead meat!
 
 
 
 
 
Originally Posted by LorenzoSupino:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...JGAGFgRg&index=1

First Scrimmage yesterday. Ugly Dying quail to right field. Bad swing? Scored in an exciting way aswell. Cheers to the HS season being upon us. 

Originally Posted by gitnby:
That was one funky swing!
First of all, unless the count was 0-2, you shouldn't be even thinking about swinging at that pitch with your current swing.  Wait for something up.
 
On the other hand, with a good load and good pitch recognition, it was a pitch that could be drilled to left.  stop it at the :08 mark and look at where your hands are.
 
As 4base said, your hands are moving way before the toe touch.  At toe touch, your hands should be over or even behind your back foot, with good balance and movement forward with backside and hips opening towards the pitcher.
 
But again, it was all arms, with no backside push or hip turn.
Remember, it's a "swing", not a "push". Let the hands go through.
 
You might try either spreading out your feet with a smaller stride/ toe tap (ala Jim Edmonds), or trying a higher leg kick with same stance (Ala Miguel Cabrera).  Both will force better balance as you start the swing with the hands.
 
Pitch recognition is the key. Longer you stay back and balanced, better you will be.  You are certainly strong enough to get around on any pitch you will see in HS.
 
A good drill would be the" half-swing". Either on a tee, or with soft-toss, just get to contact with the bat and stop. Keep doing it until you can get the bat to the zone with good swing plane and are hitting it fair. You will be amazed at how far the ball will go when you square it up even with no follow through!
 

Once you get that part down, then finish the swing on your next round.
 
Also, I would score that play as a CS, and E-5 or E-2. You were dead meat!
 
 
 
 
 
Originally Posted by LorenzoSupino:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...JGAGFgRg&index=1

First Scrimmage yesterday. Ugly Dying quail to right field. Bad swing? Scored in an exciting way aswell. Cheers to the HS season being upon us. 

Hahahahahahaha. I'll try the half swing tommrow and hopefully post some more footage from the game on Friday. I' really appericate guys. I'm soaking up all of this.

Absolutely!
 
when you drop the hands like that, you lose the back shoulder and the back elbow gets lost.
 
Some people call that "losing your connection"
 
hands should go back as front foot is coming down.
 
watch this video of Cabrera. love his swing! simple, but powerful.
 
 
Or, this one of Manny
 
 
 
 
Originally Posted by LorenzoSupino:

So, My hands are droping like straight down it seems like ? Is that hurting me?

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