Though not all free, here is the home page for the Raiders showcases and team tryouts.
http://www.theraidersclubhouse.com/
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Event Name: 07, 08 & 09 High School Showcase Team Tryouts: May 6
Description: Summer showcase travel team (Junior Olympics, Perfect Game, etc.) Open to all High School Players.
Begins: 05/06/06
Ends: 05/07/06
Fee: $90.00
Is that a misprint? $90 just to try out for a travel baseball team? That is insanity. If I had to pay $90 to tryout for a team I would buy my kid a tennis racket.
How can this team get any good players when coaches on real scout teams call kids all over the state begging them to play, sometimes for free.
Description: Summer showcase travel team (Junior Olympics, Perfect Game, etc.) Open to all High School Players.
Begins: 05/06/06
Ends: 05/07/06
Fee: $90.00
Is that a misprint? $90 just to try out for a travel baseball team? That is insanity. If I had to pay $90 to tryout for a team I would buy my kid a tennis racket.
How can this team get any good players when coaches on real scout teams call kids all over the state begging them to play, sometimes for free.
I agree, you can pretty much make the assumption that anything Chuck Fest is involved with is probably not worth your time or your money. He is only worried about 2 things: Making money, and his SON !!!
I guess the rates vary from place to place. More often than not , try outs are usually done in a showcase or camp format. I have seen higher rates. I guess we'll have to see how the attendees react to it.
'Scout teams' always gives me a chuckle. Most people think that there is an actual pro baseball scout selecting and running the team. Most of the time it is an organization who 'invites' players they've heard about to play on the organization's team. The player would have to be exceptional to get a free ride since these are 'for profit' operations.
I had this strange notion for many years that a 'team' was a unit that practiced and played together on a regular basis under the coach or organization they are representing. These teams usually just meet for tournaments.
It just goes to prove that I can learn something new every day.
I'll hope that this is a good program to benefit the kids in the area in spite of what ulterior motives people feel are behind the establishment of the program.
'Scout teams' always gives me a chuckle. Most people think that there is an actual pro baseball scout selecting and running the team. Most of the time it is an organization who 'invites' players they've heard about to play on the organization's team. The player would have to be exceptional to get a free ride since these are 'for profit' operations.
I had this strange notion for many years that a 'team' was a unit that practiced and played together on a regular basis under the coach or organization they are representing. These teams usually just meet for tournaments.
It just goes to prove that I can learn something new every day.
I'll hope that this is a good program to benefit the kids in the area in spite of what ulterior motives people feel are behind the establishment of the program.
WILLIEBOBO
We are not a "scout team" but we play a number of them and they ARE IN FACT run by PRO SCOUTS.
I would be careful with regard to the brush you use in painting pictures
We are not a "scout team" but we play a number of them and they ARE IN FACT run by PRO SCOUTS.
I would be careful with regard to the brush you use in painting pictures
WB
Chuckle all you want. My sons summer/fall team was run by 2 MLB scouts. Good players don't have to pay to tryout. The best high school players can sometimes play for free. I know of a half dozen teams that don't charge a nickel for anything. That's how it works.
Some clubs have very deep pocketed private sponsorship generally termed "owners" who write six figure checks, year after year, out of petty cash.
I'm sure you'll (they, whoever) get enough appropriately talented kids (parents) to take the offer.
Chuckle all you want. My sons summer/fall team was run by 2 MLB scouts. Good players don't have to pay to tryout. The best high school players can sometimes play for free. I know of a half dozen teams that don't charge a nickel for anything. That's how it works.
quote:The player would have to be exceptional to get a free ride since these are 'for profit' operations.
Some clubs have very deep pocketed private sponsorship generally termed "owners" who write six figure checks, year after year, out of petty cash.
I'm sure you'll (they, whoever) get enough appropriately talented kids (parents) to take the offer.
I'm sure that some scout teams are the real article, others use the name. With all the layers of 'scouts' out there, I only consider the ones getting paid as scouts.
The camp isn't mine or affiliated with me. I am just in favor of any benefit to kids playing ball and looking to improve their game.
It's nice that SOME clubs are in it for the player and the game. The clubs that don't charge are the ones actually looking for talent. With most only the exceptional player SOMETIMES gets a free ride.
Wouldn't it be nice if none charged?
The camp isn't mine or affiliated with me. I am just in favor of any benefit to kids playing ball and looking to improve their game.
It's nice that SOME clubs are in it for the player and the game. The clubs that don't charge are the ones actually looking for talent. With most only the exceptional player SOMETIMES gets a free ride.
Wouldn't it be nice if none charged?
quote:I only consider the ones getting paid as scouts
Me too.
TRhit
Are u a part of the Raider Baseball Family?
Are u a part of the Raider Baseball Family?
Alot of young players have benefited from Chucks desire to provide a venue for his son to improve his game. There is no way that the expense that he has shelled out over the years can ever be recouped by charging fees for try-outs or membership in the Raider Nation Clubhouse which he has recently built that includes state of the art equipment and facilities.
My son was asked in HS to play on a "pro" scout fall team, we declined because of distance.
My understanding was that they were ex "pro" scouts, there would have been no fee, monwy had to be coming from somewhere. They chose only really talented kids. I understood they gave great instruction and played against local JUCOS.
Lots of scouts will coach teams because they honestly love working with the kids and want to help develop the talent in the area. I know that some of the kids benefited greatly from being on the team, in their game and with lots of connections.
My understanding was that they were ex "pro" scouts, there would have been no fee, monwy had to be coming from somewhere. They chose only really talented kids. I understood they gave great instruction and played against local JUCOS.
Lots of scouts will coach teams because they honestly love working with the kids and want to help develop the talent in the area. I know that some of the kids benefited greatly from being on the team, in their game and with lots of connections.
It wasn't my intention to enter into debate about individuals, programs, motives or fees.
I saw a new program that has had success in previous years and made mention.
If anyone chooses to become involved with the program or chooses not to become involved is their own decision.
I saw a new program that has had success in previous years and made mention.
If anyone chooses to become involved with the program or chooses not to become involved is their own decision.
quote:Alot of young players have benefited from Chucks desire to provide a venue for his son to improve his game.
There is no way that the expense that he has shelled out over the years can ever be recouped by charging fees
JEG
Please tell me how some kid benefits from paying $90 to tryout for the Raiders??
If it's all about the Raiders coaches debits and credits, maybe he should just have a telethon.
I appreciate any coach devoting time, effort and $$ helping kids, but taking $90 from some kids mom, then cutting the kid a few hour later, perhaps inviting him to tryout next month or next season, well, that just creeps me out. I'm guessing I'm not alone either. It's just a plain old money grab.
Nobody but scrubinni's are going to pay $90 to tryout for a baseball team. jmo
The Raiders have their own full sized manicured field that is available to all kids associated with the Raiders. The players that are selected go on to play quality showcase events. Junior Olympics etc. The team came in the top 10 last year with a very youg team. The players recieve excellent coaching and instruction throughout the year. The Raiders plan on fielding 2or3 seperate teams this year. I have spent $40/hr for hitting instruction and I have spent $100/hr for fielding as well as hitting instructions at various locations in the central florida area with former pro players as instructors (one on one with my son). $90 does not seem like a huge expense. If you are not willing to pay $90 to join a team with a complete private indoor facility and a full sized private outdoor field with former professional baseball players as coaches then that is a decision you are free to make. I would not spend $90 to try out for a team unless I was confident that my son was likely to make the team and it was a team I wanted my son to participate with.
quote:I would not spend $90 to try out for a team unless I was confident that my son was likely to make the team and it was a team I wanted my son to participate with.
You are right. It is a money grab.
Team One charged, I think it was almost $200, for a tryout that we never even received a response from. When I brought that up awhile back on this website, I was accused of being bitter because my son was not good enough to be selected. In hindsite, I would have "filed" the application curbside.
The Tampa Bay Showcase we participated in was free, which was right in my price range.
The Tampa Bay Showcase we participated in was free, which was right in my price range.
jgrabe:
the reason you spend all that money on hitting lessons is so your son can be good enough for you to turn around and spend another 90$ on a tryout?
Let's be honest, If you stopped spending all that money on hitting lessons per month, you could probably save up enough to build a batting cage in your back yard, and then your son could learn how to hit naturally. Instead of having just another expensive manufactured swing. And if you have to pay to tryout its probably not worth the money no matter howmuch it is.
PS. i hope that Mr. Fest's son enjoys the workout facility that has just been built! Your paying for it!
the reason you spend all that money on hitting lessons is so your son can be good enough for you to turn around and spend another 90$ on a tryout?
Let's be honest, If you stopped spending all that money on hitting lessons per month, you could probably save up enough to build a batting cage in your back yard, and then your son could learn how to hit naturally. Instead of having just another expensive manufactured swing. And if you have to pay to tryout its probably not worth the money no matter howmuch it is.
PS. i hope that Mr. Fest's son enjoys the workout facility that has just been built! Your paying for it!
After doing some research, I personally have come to the conclusion that the money being charged for the two showcases and showcase/tryout are on the low end of similar programs. (Showcases, Tournament fees per player, Tryout Fees)
I noted in the ad that the camps and tryout are only open to high school players. Note, not high school age players. If a player or parent feels that the cost is prohibitive, they will not be involved.
On the scrub issue, since these kids are high school players, they apparently impressed the school selction committee or coach with their abilities to make the team.
Lastly, the three showcases before the Independence Day tournament are all free. They are also all year specific.
I find it very hard to find fault with this program as it appears on paper and after seeing their facility.
Many of my data sources reminded me that sometimes cost is part of the weeding out process. But cost too often means the difference in having an opportunity and not having that opportunity.
I always think back to the Goya teams that paid for everything. (Uniforms, travel and coaches.) We even went to Puerto Rico to play. (We're not in the Bronx anymore Toto.)
I noted in the ad that the camps and tryout are only open to high school players. Note, not high school age players. If a player or parent feels that the cost is prohibitive, they will not be involved.
On the scrub issue, since these kids are high school players, they apparently impressed the school selction committee or coach with their abilities to make the team.
Lastly, the three showcases before the Independence Day tournament are all free. They are also all year specific.
I find it very hard to find fault with this program as it appears on paper and after seeing their facility.
Many of my data sources reminded me that sometimes cost is part of the weeding out process. But cost too often means the difference in having an opportunity and not having that opportunity.
I always think back to the Goya teams that paid for everything. (Uniforms, travel and coaches.) We even went to Puerto Rico to play. (We're not in the Bronx anymore Toto.)
Puma1
I paid $75 for the T1 showcase tryout at UCF in December 2002. There were at least 40 or 50 college coaches there in the freezing cold for two days. It was a showcase. We got letters from the tryout; priceless exposure, imo.
I can't compare that to a showcase team tryout.
Save your money and go to a real showcase with real national exposure at http://www.perfectgame.org/
quote:Team One charged, I think it was almost $200, for a tryout that we never even received a response from.
I paid $75 for the T1 showcase tryout at UCF in December 2002. There were at least 40 or 50 college coaches there in the freezing cold for two days. It was a showcase. We got letters from the tryout; priceless exposure, imo.
I can't compare that to a showcase team tryout.
Save your money and go to a real showcase with real national exposure at http://www.perfectgame.org/
Why is it I was expecting a competitor's commercial in your posts? Bad form.
As a side note, I don't think any of the Raider players have started a game for their respective varsity teams. The exposure that they have gotten though has some players being watched by the likes of Arizona State, LSU, Stanford, not to mention many D-2's and D-3's and JUCO's. The letters just keep showing up at their schools.
As noted on the team site (but not on the showcase site), the Raiders had one of their own chosen for the Arizona Tryout for the Youth National team.
Being their first year, they seem to be doing quite well attracting attention to their players.
That fifteen dollar difference in price complaint was hysterical.
Lastly , some of those washed up ball players from the area must still know some folks associated with the game. There are some who coach high school teams, club teams and assist high school coaches. The hitting instructor for Wharton last season, where at least one Raider studies, was inducted into the Hall of Fame.
As a side note, I don't think any of the Raider players have started a game for their respective varsity teams. The exposure that they have gotten though has some players being watched by the likes of Arizona State, LSU, Stanford, not to mention many D-2's and D-3's and JUCO's. The letters just keep showing up at their schools.
As noted on the team site (but not on the showcase site), the Raiders had one of their own chosen for the Arizona Tryout for the Youth National team.
Being their first year, they seem to be doing quite well attracting attention to their players.
That fifteen dollar difference in price complaint was hysterical.
Lastly , some of those washed up ball players from the area must still know some folks associated with the game. There are some who coach high school teams, club teams and assist high school coaches. The hitting instructor for Wharton last season, where at least one Raider studies, was inducted into the Hall of Fame.
Paying for trying out for a scout team must be something that is commonplace
in the Tampa area. It is not done for the Scorpions,Renegades,Bandits or any other team in Central Florida as far as I am aware of.
$90 for a showcase that is well-attended by college and pro scouts is cheap.
Are we talking about two seperate situations here?
Trying out for a team-$90 for a couple of hours and told "Sorry, you're not
good enough" is a joke. Is this what it is? What am I missing?
in the Tampa area. It is not done for the Scorpions,Renegades,Bandits or any other team in Central Florida as far as I am aware of.
$90 for a showcase that is well-attended by college and pro scouts is cheap.
Are we talking about two seperate situations here?
Trying out for a team-$90 for a couple of hours and told "Sorry, you're not
good enough" is a joke. Is this what it is? What am I missing?
I guess the correct thing would be to contact the Raiders Clubhouse to find the specifics.
Here is their statement/invitation.
About Us
The Tampa Bay Raiders is a not for profit organization focusing on the boys and girls around the Tampa Bay area involved in sports.
We have many goals in mind. We offer quality instruction and training opportunities at our state of the art training facilities designed for the athletes to excel in their sport. Another goal of the organization is to build the confidence, character and self-esteem that will not only help an athlete in their sport but will also carry with them for the rest of their life. Our final goal is to get each one of our athletes into college.We understand that teaching and training our athletes may not be enough, they still need to be seen. That is why we have put in place a number of events designed to get the exposure our athletes need to go to the next level.
If this is the type of organization you are looking for then contact us immediately. Thank you and we look forward to helping you or your athlete " Be Better ".
Chuck Fest & Jody Reed
Here is their statement/invitation.
About Us
The Tampa Bay Raiders is a not for profit organization focusing on the boys and girls around the Tampa Bay area involved in sports.
We have many goals in mind. We offer quality instruction and training opportunities at our state of the art training facilities designed for the athletes to excel in their sport. Another goal of the organization is to build the confidence, character and self-esteem that will not only help an athlete in their sport but will also carry with them for the rest of their life. Our final goal is to get each one of our athletes into college.We understand that teaching and training our athletes may not be enough, they still need to be seen. That is why we have put in place a number of events designed to get the exposure our athletes need to go to the next level.
If this is the type of organization you are looking for then contact us immediately. Thank you and we look forward to helping you or your athlete " Be Better ".
Chuck Fest & Jody Reed
"The hitting instructor for Wharton last season, where at least one Raider studies, was inducted into the Hall of Fame."
For hitting instruction?
As I'm sure you must be aware playing the game
doesn't automatically qualify one as a hitting instructor. Know him well and also Cy Young pitcher who also "coaches" HS. Will not comment further about their abilities to teach.
For hitting instruction?
As I'm sure you must be aware playing the gamedoesn't automatically qualify one as a hitting instructor. Know him well and also Cy Young pitcher who also "coaches" HS. Will not comment further about their abilities to teach.
Good Point Moc1 !!!
This hall of famer didnt exactly help take his team deep in state play-offs did he???
I would also like to add that the ex-major league ball player who helped chuck fest coach Jesuits winter program this year did nothing more than cause problems with his mouth.
Now that i think of it, Chuck Fest and Jody Reed attacked all of the players who played positions that his son thought he was capable of playing at the varsity level. These being 1b,3b, and C
so to Chuck Fest and Jody Reed i say: "We dont need you, your money, or your son. We have made it to the state final four like 4 years in a row without you"
"SO,EVERYTIME YOU THINK ABOUT BAD MOUTHING ANYONE ON JESUIT'S BASEBALL TEAM AGAIN. ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S NOT TRUE, I WANT YOU TO REMEMBER THAT TALENT IS ALL THAT MATTERS !!!"
(and your son doesnt have it)
This hall of famer didnt exactly help take his team deep in state play-offs did he???
I would also like to add that the ex-major league ball player who helped chuck fest coach Jesuits winter program this year did nothing more than cause problems with his mouth.
Now that i think of it, Chuck Fest and Jody Reed attacked all of the players who played positions that his son thought he was capable of playing at the varsity level. These being 1b,3b, and C
so to Chuck Fest and Jody Reed i say: "We dont need you, your money, or your son. We have made it to the state final four like 4 years in a row without you"
"SO,EVERYTIME YOU THINK ABOUT BAD MOUTHING ANYONE ON JESUIT'S BASEBALL TEAM AGAIN. ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S NOT TRUE, I WANT YOU TO REMEMBER THAT TALENT IS ALL THAT MATTERS !!!"
(and your son doesnt have it)
Jesuit has had a good baseball program for many years. It seems that you have a personal issue with these people. I don't know them.
Mickey Mantle told me that he would have made a bad hitting instructor also. I emulated him all the years I played. (But tried to strike out less.)
Mickey Mantle told me that he would have made a bad hitting instructor also. I emulated him all the years I played. (But tried to strike out less.)
Willie
I hate to break this to you. The letters go to the high schools because they don't have their home addresses yet. Those schools make lists from team rosters they pick up at events like WWBA in Atlanta and JO in Jupiter and AZ. It's fun for Mom and Dad when Johnny gets letters from ASU, LSU, etc. They both send out 5,000 or 10,000 letters a month. They end up calling about 75 or 100 kids of that list in March of the Junior year. Any kid who isn't starting as a sophomore is likely not going to play for LSU and should probably just enjoy the rest of their high school career. Both schools you cite bring in 50 or 60 new kids for tryouts in the fall, cutting most and giving precious little scholarship to the few they keep.
PG has no real competition right now. If a player does well at a PG event, within 6 months everyone who should know, will know. Comparing a showcase team in Pasco County or wherever to them is not realistic. The Raiders will take a while to catch up.
I can't help it if you can't comprehend the difference between the Raiders team tryout for $90 (with how many college coaches and pro scouts? The website says none.) and a Team One showcase tryout with 40-50 coaches for two days at UCF.
Furthermore the team tryout is in mid-May. Most of the travel teams I know have commitments from their players well before that date. Most of the good players I know, already know who they are playing for next summer. The Scorpions and Renegades had tryouts last August. Who will be left over to tryout next May? Apparently, the Jesuit players won't be there.
Tell me this. Why would a showcase company have a "High School Warm Up Evaluation Showcase" Jan 7-8? This is in the middle of the NCAA "Dead Period" on Jan 5-9 that forbids any contact or evaluation by a college coach. Who is evaluating the kids, not college people?
Enjoy them playing. Help them have a good time. If something else comes from it thats great. Good luck.
quote:As a side note, I don't think any of the Raider players have started a game for their respective varsity teams. The exposure that they have gotten though has some players being watched by the likes of Arizona State, LSU, Stanford, not to mention many D-2's and D-3's and JUCO's. The letters just keep showing up at their schools.
I hate to break this to you. The letters go to the high schools because they don't have their home addresses yet. Those schools make lists from team rosters they pick up at events like WWBA in Atlanta and JO in Jupiter and AZ. It's fun for Mom and Dad when Johnny gets letters from ASU, LSU, etc. They both send out 5,000 or 10,000 letters a month. They end up calling about 75 or 100 kids of that list in March of the Junior year. Any kid who isn't starting as a sophomore is likely not going to play for LSU and should probably just enjoy the rest of their high school career. Both schools you cite bring in 50 or 60 new kids for tryouts in the fall, cutting most and giving precious little scholarship to the few they keep.
PG has no real competition right now. If a player does well at a PG event, within 6 months everyone who should know, will know. Comparing a showcase team in Pasco County or wherever to them is not realistic. The Raiders will take a while to catch up.
quote:That fifteen dollar difference in price complaint was hysterical.
I can't help it if you can't comprehend the difference between the Raiders team tryout for $90 (with how many college coaches and pro scouts? The website says none.) and a Team One showcase tryout with 40-50 coaches for two days at UCF.
Furthermore the team tryout is in mid-May. Most of the travel teams I know have commitments from their players well before that date. Most of the good players I know, already know who they are playing for next summer. The Scorpions and Renegades had tryouts last August. Who will be left over to tryout next May? Apparently, the Jesuit players won't be there.
Tell me this. Why would a showcase company have a "High School Warm Up Evaluation Showcase" Jan 7-8? This is in the middle of the NCAA "Dead Period" on Jan 5-9 that forbids any contact or evaluation by a college coach. Who is evaluating the kids, not college people?
Enjoy them playing. Help them have a good time. If something else comes from it thats great. Good luck.
My bad, it was $75 that we paid for Team One, except that they HAD to have the application fee "overnight" so that was an extra $20. This was in Tampa and there was NO scouts or coaches there at all. With no follow-up, no return calls, no "evaluation"...I could have taken a $100 bill and thrown it out the window. It was a joke. I agree that PG is the best game around, but any exposure, especially if it is free, is a good thing.
quote:This was in Tampa and there was NO scouts or coaches there at all. With no follow-up, no return calls, no "evaluation"
Teamone (was) is not as organized, established or well run as PG. imo. I was not promised an eval from the T1 showcase tryout or the showcase itself. If they promised you one, then they should give you one. Although, the only valuable "evaluation" from a showcase comes from a college coach or MLB scout. jmo
I am sorry there were no coaches attending that T1 deal in Tampa. Maybe they have gone downhill since I went. I'm glad we didn't go. There were 150-200 coaches at GA Tech for the Teamone South showcase in July 2003 for 3 days. All on one field. I paid the "early bird" fee of $150.
Jr got calls from 6 or 8 new schools within two weeks, signing with one of them. I viewed it as worthwhile.
I wonder if every program that starts up and charges a fee suffers this type of scrutiny and derision.
Comparing an outfit just starting up of any kind with an established outfit is unreasonable.
I wonder if this is the reason that so few not for profit outfits continue.
Comparing an outfit just starting up of any kind with an established outfit is unreasonable.
I wonder if this is the reason that so few not for profit outfits continue.
quote:Comparing an outfit just starting up of any kind with an established outfit is unreasonable.
My last post on the matter.
Players and their families have, do, and will compare outfits, teams, colleges, restaurants and department stores from their own perspective and chose based on their own perspective, as in "What's in it for me?".
I don't care if the "outfit" is new or old. I care about the cost v. benefit.
I'm not alone.
quote:Why is it I was expecting a competitor's commercial in your posts? Bad form.
Bad form is charging $90 for a Raiders tryout, when the kid can tryout for the New York Yankees or any other major league club for FREE! With your free enterprise logic Steinbrenner should be charging kids $9,000 to tryout.
I would imagine every parent weighs cost vs benefit in their deecision.
It must have been some pioneering spirits who gambled on the now established programs.
This program has yet to open their doors but has been roundly criticized as not having benefit or less benefit tha other programs.
If every business were subjected to the mentality that people will not use that service or buy that product simply because they have no results before they open, we may as well convert our country to socialism.
Our free enterprise system not only allows new business but promotes it. I prefer this way of life.
I'm must not be alone in my thinking either since millions of people have come to our free enterprise way of life over the years.
I prefer a brand of ice cream over another after trying both. I do not condemn or disparage that other brand before trying it.
What a country
It must have been some pioneering spirits who gambled on the now established programs.
This program has yet to open their doors but has been roundly criticized as not having benefit or less benefit tha other programs.
If every business were subjected to the mentality that people will not use that service or buy that product simply because they have no results before they open, we may as well convert our country to socialism.
Our free enterprise system not only allows new business but promotes it. I prefer this way of life.
I'm must not be alone in my thinking either since millions of people have come to our free enterprise way of life over the years.
I prefer a brand of ice cream over another after trying both. I do not condemn or disparage that other brand before trying it.
What a country
WillieBobo-Are you saying that knowledgeable baseball people do not have the right to
question whether fees being charged by an organization that "has yet to open their
doors" are appropriate or reasonable?
You came on promoting this program first did you not? Using your reasoning, how can you
promote something that has no track record yet. I would think you would do research on
anything you were considering buying beforehand wouldn't you? I think you have it backwards-socialism would be taking what is offered without question-capitalism is just
the opposite-researching and buying what you feel may be the best for your particular
needs and desires.
If the Tampa Bay Raiders have a good product and parents(afterall they'll be footing the
bill) think it's worth the $ then they should succeed. If not, they'll fail. I wouldn't
think you or they would have it any other way.
question whether fees being charged by an organization that "has yet to open their
doors" are appropriate or reasonable?
You came on promoting this program first did you not? Using your reasoning, how can you
promote something that has no track record yet. I would think you would do research on
anything you were considering buying beforehand wouldn't you? I think you have it backwards-socialism would be taking what is offered without question-capitalism is just
the opposite-researching and buying what you feel may be the best for your particular
needs and desires.
If the Tampa Bay Raiders have a good product and parents(afterall they'll be footing the
bill) think it's worth the $ then they should succeed. If not, they'll fail. I wouldn't
think you or they would have it any other way.
The right to question is what makes this country great.
The choice to criticize or besmerch without knowledge or experience is another thing all together.
In the truest sense of the word I did promote this program by making mention of it. Mind you , not for profit or gain in any way except to say that another resource was opening.
I have always been of the view that knowledgable baseball people would wonder and possibly even become curious about any new program that starts up. I would not expect any to compare any program to another except to say that they have liked , disliked, benefited or did not benefit from attendance at a program, unless of course there was something egregious.
Socialism would actually be not having choice because only one outlet for any product or service would exist, the state.
Being a system that has enacted anti-monopoly statutes, free enterprise would be the ability to choose what business we engage in in all facets, either as owner or customer.
As you stated in your conclusion, the ultimate arbiter of the program will be those who partake.
When I made mention of them, I would have thought that everyone knew and understood that that would be the determining factor in the future of that program.
The choice to criticize or besmerch without knowledge or experience is another thing all together.
In the truest sense of the word I did promote this program by making mention of it. Mind you , not for profit or gain in any way except to say that another resource was opening.
I have always been of the view that knowledgable baseball people would wonder and possibly even become curious about any new program that starts up. I would not expect any to compare any program to another except to say that they have liked , disliked, benefited or did not benefit from attendance at a program, unless of course there was something egregious.
Socialism would actually be not having choice because only one outlet for any product or service would exist, the state.
Being a system that has enacted anti-monopoly statutes, free enterprise would be the ability to choose what business we engage in in all facets, either as owner or customer.
As you stated in your conclusion, the ultimate arbiter of the program will be those who partake.
When I made mention of them, I would have thought that everyone knew and understood that that would be the determining factor in the future of that program.