Team Strike outs

Our team has 409 AB and 70 K's.

I'll use PA instead of AB - I think a truer picture.

Currently, in our league, the better teams are running between 11% and 17%. A few lower tier teams are between 23-28%.
That said, just about every team has an ace that averages somewhere around 10K per 7IP. So, when aces are throwing, it runs closer to 30+%.

Since 2007 I’ve scored 158 spring season games for our HS team. There have been 9,589 batters with 1,760 Ks total for both teams. That works out to a bit more than 18%.

Over the course of the last 4 years and including this year we have had 3,314 plate appearances and 492 strikeouts...this workds out to be a 15% strikeout average.

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Originally posted by IEBSBL:
Over the course of the last 4 years and including this year we have had 3,314 plate appearances and 492 strikeouts...this workds out to be a 15% strikeout average.

Is that for only your pitchers or is it a total of their batters and your batters?

That is just our hitters. Opposing hitter over that period of time carried a 24% strike out ratio against us. This might just be mean but I believe there has to be a correlation. During this time frame we have amasses a 74% winning percentage as well.

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Originally posted by IEBSBL:
That is just our hitters. Opposing hitter over that period of time carried a 24% strike out ratio against us. This might just be mean but I believe there has to be a correlation. During this time frame we have amasses a 74% winning percentage as well.

I’m pretty careful about drawing conclusions without a whole lot of information when it comes to HS numbers.

Your team must be ranked very very high nationally. A WPct of .740 is pretty spectacular over a 4 year span.

Have you tried to do more to see if you can find a correlation? I’ve checked to see how the number of Ks in a game affects the W/L record, but not the K/batter percentage.

I have not tried to find anymore of a correlation that what I have posted. What I do know is that if you are putting more balls in play and getting on base more than the other teams you are playing you will usually win more games. I do know where you are coming from because you are always using statistical eveidence. I am willing to dive in but is there anything you are specifically looking for?

Not really. I was just wondering if you’ve ever experimented with the numbers. I love to compare what I have with other folks.

If you’d like a crude example, go to http://www.infosports.com/scor...images/special12.pdf
Go to the bottom, then start backing up, and you should be able to see what I’m talking about.

On our team as of last week, offensively we had 78 K's in 472 AB's and 556 PA's.

Deffensively we had 114K's in 503 AB's and PA's weren't scored.

That was before son went 11K's in 19 AB's and 21 PA's tonight

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Originally posted by JMoff:… Deffensively we had 114K's in 503 AB's and PA's weren't scored.
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For those who don’t know, most people understand a PA to include all at bats that don’t get disregarded.

OBR Rule 10.02 (a) The following records for each batter and runner:
(1) Number of times batted, except that no time at bat shall be charged when a player
(i) hits a sacrifice bunt or sacrifice fly;
(ii) is awarded first base on four called balls;
(iii) is hit by a pitched ball; or
(iv) is awarded first base because of interference or obstruction

Although I admit not being something called for in the rules its often mistaken and misunderstood, how can a PA not be scored? Since its such a simple thing, its pretty easy to get either one by either adding or subtracting the ABs for those 4 things.

I’ve had the software I’ve used to store data figure it out both ways, but after many years of data input, I’ve found it much easier and less time consuming to just input PA’s, then let the computer compute ABs by subtracting those 4 items, since they have to be input anyway.

Personally, I do many metrics showing both PAs and ABs so the observer has as much information as possible.

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Originally posted by Stats4Gnats:

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Originally posted by JMoff:… Deffensively we had 114K's in 503 AB's and PA's weren't scored.
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For those who don’t know, most people understand a PA to include all at bats that don’t get disregarded.

OBR Rule 10.02 (a) The following records for each batter and runner:
(1) Number of times batted, except that no time at bat shall be charged when a player
(i) hits a sacrifice bunt or sacrifice fly;
(ii) is awarded first base on four called balls;
(iii) is hit by a pitched ball; or
(iv) is awarded first base because of interference or obstruction

Some other kid's dad provided the spread sheet. I didn't bother calculating the missing information, but realize your point was educational

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Originally posted by JMoff:
Some other kid's dad provided the spread sheet. I didn't bother calculating the missing information, but realize your point was educational

ALWAYS! And I wasn’t trying to educate you.

I just can’t help making an effort when an educational moment comes up. Lots of us old farts have been around so long, much of this stuff is second nature, and sometimes we forget that there are folks out there who really don’t understand some of the things we don’t even think about any longer.

Heck, if I tried to explain that in the rule book it calls all appearances at the plate that result in an out or a batter getting on, “At Bats”, but that some of them just don’t count, right away I’ve got myself a problem. I’m guessing you’re like me and think of the ABs that “count”, as “Official At Bats”, and PAs as At Bats. See, it gets nutsy just trying to explain it!