The New Coppell Addition

This has nothing to do with Coppell. However, I found out today that one of the plano players that was kicked off the team, is no longer enrolled at plano hs and is playing for either a 3a or 4a high school.

If the they did not want him in plano then he should go somewhere he is welcomed

Having been through a divorce I feel for this kid.

I hope this kid adjusts and does well in school, and that his new teammates take him under their wing.

A couple of years ago Keller had an intra district transfer, that EVERYONE, including most on this board thought was a recruiting issue. The dad had to spend hard earned money that he didn't have on lawyers to defend himself for having to move because his job situation changed, and therefore his income stream.

Everybody take a breath, there is usually a more innocent reason for this kid moving than just baseball or football. Heck, if he's a football stud, why didn't he move to Southlake? Wouldn't that have done him more good than Coppell??

Plus, Southlake's baseball program ain't half bad either.

KD -- the discussion has been driven by the timing of the move more than anything. I think most of us anticipate good things for the FM kid. Maybe he transferred now to participate in spring football. And I think Southlake has a QB.

Maybe the right house just became available ?

I am sure this is a legit move. But it does open the door for other non-legit moves. We had a kid (stud varsity player)from another school in Mesquite that wanted to transfer back in fall (one of his parents lives in our area) and they would not ok the move. I heard our district had to approve the move and they did not approve. He could change schools but had to sit out of baseball for this year. Since this was his senior year, he stayed at his original school.
I wish the new Coppell player and his family all the luck. After all this is just game. People need to chill.

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I am sure this is a legit move

Not what FM faithful are saying.

Now that it is in the DMN I guess we can talk about it:

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/highsch...rmound.1246decc.html

Here is the skinny version:

Coppell's side:
Coppell ISD athletic director John Crawford said.


Crawford said that under UIL rules, Morris is ineligible for varsity competition for 15 calendar days after enrolling at Coppell. To become varsity-eligible after the 15 days, Flower Mound, Coppell and the District 6-5A executive committee has to sign off on Morris' transfer and ensure that the move wasn't made for athletic purposes. Morris or his parents couldn't immediately be reached for comment Thursday.

Cody Vanderford, Flower Mound's athletic coordinator and football coach, said he was surprised about Morris' transfer. He refused to comment on if Flower Mound would sign off on the transfer.

"I won't elaborate on the transfer and don't feel the need to," Vanderford said. "We'll handle it the way it should be handled and we'll go from there."


It sounds like the FM AD - Vanderford isn't going to let this one go by so easily.

My bet is he wants a whole year of ineligibility (football and then into Baseball season next year).

That would be a shame.

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Originally posted by FmJags1330:

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Originally posted by Train:
[QUOTE]I am sure this is a legit move

Not what FM faithful are saying.

I assure you, the FM faithful that say otherwise are not fully aware of the situation, and neither, I would assume, are you.

I've conversed with the family, and I must say, the rumors flying around are unfounded. My bet is that even if Vanderford refuses to release him, it won't hold up when it goes in from of the UIL committee. There's just not enough evidence to support that the move was for athletic reasons--despite what the rumors are saying.

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Originally posted by FmJags1330:
There's just not enough evidence to support that the move was for athletic reasons--despite what the rumors are saying.

Article posted this evening on the wfaa website....

http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/highschools/t...rmound.1246decc.html

A quote from the article...
"We wanted to give Cody Vanderford the chance to do spring football knowing Jacob wasn't going to be there," Mrs. Hernandez said, "and we wanted to give Jacob a chance to play spring football with his new team."

FmJags1330 - I take your word for it that the move is not for athletic purposes but based on the quote in the article the timing appears to be driven by athletics (spring football).....not that there is anything wrong with that....

I believe her when she says it is the best move for her family -- who am I to argue that point? But then she discusses spring football as a reason for the move's timing. I don't claim to know the eligibility procedures, but I can see the district denying his eligibility for baseball in 2007 -- and approving his right to play football in the fall.

I respect this player and his dad (don't know his mom from Eve). I hope it all works out for them. Concerning the "uproar" it seems to have caused....I don't see him making a significant impact on either baseball program this year. Either team would be fortunate to have him in 2008.

JMO.

What happened to Train's earlier post? He mentioned that a certain someone had nothing to do with this....why was that post taken off? Was new information uncovered, or was he just leary of the possible repercussions? Was he suggesting something that he really didn't have complete first hand knowledge of?

Whatever the reson for the change in schools - who are we to make any judgements unless we know 100% what the reason was? Assumptions can be made by anyone...but when you assume...you know what happens.

Perhaps that certain someone mentioned by Train wants to be closer to his own kids, or perhaps being at Coppell is better for the player in question - athletically or, hold your breath, for academics...but whatever the reason, only a very few people truly know the truth - and we shouldn't sit and judge from the outside. Every member of this extended family who is involved in the decision is going through quite a bit, so let's hope that it turns out best for the kids (all of them that are involved - and it's not just the one transferring schools)...afterall, that's what this website is for, correct?

It seems that the UIL rules states that the eligibility is to be determined based on whether the move itself was for athletic reasons. The timing just seems like courtesy by the family.

I looked over the rules several times and in my opinion, the player will most likely not lose a year, despite the fact that his previous coach refused to release him.

I think its important to consider that the refusal to release could be influenced by higher-ups and not just the athletic director's decision (at Flower Mound, the head football coach is also the athletic director).

-WMN

This morning their is an article about this very subject in the DMN.. Sounds as if Coppell is getting quite a good athlete..

On the other hand, this is a message board -- a place to discuss events in HS baseball. I don't think anyone is "judging" the family and certainly no one is minimizing the challenges they face. But it is my understanding that the divorce situation isn't recent, so the athlete has had time with the adjustments related to that situation. And, you guys are right, there are often times MANY reason to relocate. Juat the fact that they have a new house is reason enough --- I might like to move to west Plano one day (okok, a bad example! ) This type of thing happens frequently and no one ever says, "yes, we're moving for athletic purposes". It is up to the administration to determine intent -- and their judgment is really no more accurate than ours. It sounds like the parents go in front of a board and make their case. But the bottom line is.....the judgement will set a precident. Football in the next school year <--- very different than a tight district race between friendly rivals in my opinion.

To be perfectly honest, I don't care why they are moving -- it's their personal business. I really don't have a huge problem with this "moving for athletics" thing ---- while understanding why the rule is in place, this isn't China --- maybe the rule should be clarified. But, if a kid can move across town when he is having a tough season, the flood gates open!

I did not remove Train's comments -- if they're gone, he removed them himself.

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I really don't have a huge problem with this "moving for athletics" thing ----

Let the music play.

Business people moving for business reasons.

High School students moving for academic reasons- ex.-to a magnet school

Parents moving for financial reasons

Professional athletes moving for many reasons

I really don't like the attitude of the Flower Mound AD and other FM administrators actions. What they are really saying is, "If we can't have him no one else can either." This country's is set up with the premise you have to make your oppurtunities. For what ever the reason is, I do not care. He should be able to pursue his goals.

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Doin’ it our way.

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Lord, I apologize.

Bless her heart.

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I did not remove Train's comments -- if they're gone, he removed them himself.

That's a first.