Ok ... now you have to factor in the rate or rotation or spin you put on the ball in rpm ...
The tighter the rotation, the greater the boundry layer of air trapped against the ball and the less effect that drag has on it.
You've seen both a knuckle ball hit to the OF, a ball with top spin and a ball with backspin, so you know that putting backspin on the ball increases the distance it will travel (properties of rotating bodies in a fluid medium).
Then factor in the declination of the spin from the perpendicular.
AH yes-- all the tables, all the calculations and forumulas but now for the big question
Can the outfielder throw out the runner headed to third?
Can the infielder field the ball in the hole and throw out the batter?
Can the pitcher get batters out?
Why does ebverone want to make the game so technical?
You still gotta make the play
Can the outfielder throw out the runner headed to third?
Can the infielder field the ball in the hole and throw out the batter?
Can the pitcher get batters out?
Why does ebverone want to make the game so technical?
You still gotta make the play
Thr trick is to bring that 300ft long toss to the mound! Many times it can't be done.
At this point, I just wonder if Fungo and HHH would have left Dizzy Dean confused. And, just imagine how Yogi Berra would have handled this one. We might have gotten an all-time "Berra-ism".
AHH, for simpler times when ballplayers just played the game without over-analysis. Of course, that said, Dizzy was before my time, and Yogi too!
AHH, for simpler times when ballplayers just played the game without over-analysis. Of course, that said, Dizzy was before my time, and Yogi too!
Basically, the math ain't HS algebra. Thats the ONLY point I was trying to make.
Just play the game ... and maybe a scout will show up some day with a radar gun and you'll really know. Throwing a ball 300 feet with a crow hop isn't going to tell you much about your velocity off the mound when you are trying to throw strikes.
Just play the game ... and maybe a scout will show up some day with a radar gun and you'll really know. Throwing a ball 300 feet with a crow hop isn't going to tell you much about your velocity off the mound when you are trying to throw strikes.
I gave up trying to figure it out about 20 years ago. At that time, I had a young friend who was on the Cards 40 man roster. He had TJ surgery and was working hard and recovering well. He used to pitch at 91-93 and after many months of rehab, he would go through a long toss program and at the end of his recovery, he could toss the ball about 110 yards on the fly. We put him on the mound, and over the next 3 months, he never got his fastball above 84mph. 
Prior to the injury, he would always play long toss, but he told me that he could never throw the ball the length of the football field as he did after the surgery. He never did get the fastball back, but he could long toss with the best.
Prior to the injury, he would always play long toss, but he told me that he could never throw the ball the length of the football field as he did after the surgery. He never did get the fastball back, but he could long toss with the best.
So did they make him an outfielder? Or, couldn't he hit?
Don't take this topic the wrong way guys, I had just remembered that conversion chart, and seeing as this was our lab I decided to check it out, and the discrepancy caught my eye.
And for those who question if I bring it to the mound, this is just as much for my outfield play as it is for my pitching, and I was just wondering the conversion. Simple question, wondered if anyone knew the answer, lol.
And hey, why not have some fun with the physics of the game?
And for those who question if I bring it to the mound, this is just as much for my outfield play as it is for my pitching, and I was just wondering the conversion. Simple question, wondered if anyone knew the answer, lol.
And hey, why not have some fun with the physics of the game?
NJ Pitcher...not sure why the crankers are out to complain on this topic...using athletics and science sounds like a positive, not a negative...some people just need to say something about eveything...hope you keep enjoying your science classes as much as this one!
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It really matters not what physics and some chart tells you --it is what happens between the lines.
A player can only do what his body permits him to not what chart says---why do two pitchers both the same size throw different speeds? considering the mechanics to be equal it has to do with the body can do and both bodies are different.
Keep in mind that "numbers" can me made to say what you want them to say.
To me baseball is not as difficult as people are trying to make it out to be and "numbers' just seem to muddy the waters for parents and kids
If the charts were right every pitcher in MLB would throw like every othert pitcher of his weight and height-- Does every pitcher the similar size of Billy Wagner throw like him?
It really matters not what physics and some chart tells you --it is what happens between the lines.
A player can only do what his body permits him to not what chart says---why do two pitchers both the same size throw different speeds? considering the mechanics to be equal it has to do with the body can do and both bodies are different.
Keep in mind that "numbers" can me made to say what you want them to say.
To me baseball is not as difficult as people are trying to make it out to be and "numbers' just seem to muddy the waters for parents and kids
If the charts were right every pitcher in MLB would throw like every othert pitcher of his weight and height-- Does every pitcher the similar size of Billy Wagner throw like him?
quote:Keep in mind that "numbers" can me made to say what you want them to say.
Ahhh.....statistics; that highly precise means of stating half-truths inacurately!