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Originally Posted by CBHS BB:

My son goes to Bizzles same school, an the throwing program that he is talking about takes my son maybe 5 min to do. So with that being said, its maybe 5 min of a 2 hour strength and conditioning program that is done 3 times a week.

So, to recap, you don't have any opinions on the effectiveness of the House program, and are not interested in discussing the safety of the program. You are just doing it because the coach has won lots of games?

Last edited by SultanofSwat
CBHS BB
I have said nothing but good things about this coach and he is fantastic,  reminds me of Augie Garrido. He has put together a phenomenal team and we are honored to be a part of it. We have talked to the coach and now realize that it's only being done with a 7oz ball and nothing but good can come from it. This forum is here so that we as parents can ask questions and get opinions from people who may have Gome through simular situations. Thanks for all the help.

That was just to say that I think our coach runs a great program, Rather than just saying he is some Old Timer that doesn't have the best interest in his kids. The last thing he would to do is have these kids doing something that would effect the way they perform. Also that there are ways to handle these type of situations other than telling a coach that you are not going to do what they say. Have you ever seen any situations like this? If so what would be your input on what to do?  

The House "Holds" are exclusively utilized to train the decelerator muscles....nothing else.  By having stable / strong decelerator muscles, you will / should find velocity gains...... while most train the motion that has to do with forward throwing,....the body (brain) has a safety mechanism in place to limit the speed of the forward throwing motion, to ONLY as fast as the body (decelerator muscles) can slow it down without injury. The better / stronger your decelerator muscles are, the faster the arm will be allowed to move (arm speed).

 

The "problem" with the way House trains the decelerator muscles is that quite frankly there are much better drills / exercises that address these muscles more effectively, without having to simulate and actual throw (pitch).  Injury happens with holds when they are performed without proper technique / instruction / and watchful eyes.  A low elbow, altered arm slot, etc. will put undue stress with the heavy weighted implements (weighted balls) and "could" cause injury, or pain.  They can be effective (although - again there are other methods better) provided they are instructed, watched, and maintain good form.

 

Those who may be familiar with Dr. Marshal may remember his very odd drills with pitchers using wrist weights, and somewhat simulating a very slow, more controlled overhead throwing motion....this was where the focus of training decelerator muscles started....House just uses weighted baseballs, and simulates more of an actual full speed pitching motion.  I like Marshal's better, however there are many other ways to accomplish the same....reverse throws with 2lbs. / 4 lbs. plyo balls, reverse band pulls, etc.

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