Anyone know the specifics on the reason?
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Investigation to last several months....
Doesn't sound good.
From UC Davis statement sounds like it was an issue within the team as they are looking to "determine the best path forward to provide a safe and inclusive experience for all team members".
For a safe and inclusive experience everyone needs to get in a circle, hold hands and sing Kumbayah.
Geez! Life isn’t always fair. Instead of cowering in a corner man up and figure out how you’re going to overcome the obstacles.
No wonder so many kids come out of college soft now!
@RJM posted:No wonder so many kids come out of college soft now!
I guess I’m just lucky, but the young people I know who have graduated college in the past 10 years (and those who haven’t) are far and away much better people and citizens than my generation (low bar?). They’re smarter, more resourceful, more adaptable, more thoughtful, better parents, and much kinder… much much kinder.
If it's hazing, that's a fine line for me.
Some say making the rookie walk to the bullpen at the start of every game with a pink Hello Kitty backpack full of gum and stuff is hazing. To me, that's crap. That's not hazing, it's tradition.
That being said, I recall a NJ HS football program getting in trouble because upper classmates were pinning down freshman in training camp and sticking bananas in their rectums. Now, that's hazing and cannot be tolerated at all.
@MidAtlanticDad posted:I guess I’m just lucky, but the young people I know who have graduated college in the past 10 years (and those who haven’t) are far and away much better people and citizens than my generation (low bar?). They’re smarter, more resourceful, more adaptable, more thoughtful, better parents, and much kinder… much much kinder.
Omg 100% on this.
@Francis7 posted:If it's hazing, that's a fine line for me.
Some say making the rookie walk to the bullpen at the start of every game with a pink Hello Kitty backpack full of gum and stuff is hazing. To me, that's crap. That's not hazing, it's tradition.
That being said, I recall a NJ HS football program getting in trouble because upper classmates were pinning down freshman in training camp and sticking bananas in their rectums. Now, that's hazing and cannot be tolerated at all.
If it's was the latter wouldn't the police be investigating? For all parties involved, I hope some mom upset about her kid's playing time and crappy freshman year (wasn't UC Davis remote learning all year?) is choosing to focus her frustrations on some perceived hazing. I"m hoping it was the backpack
Hopefully it is not a relative of "IAMTHATGUY" that was the whistleblower.
@LousyLefty posted:From UC Davis statement sounds like it was an issue within the team as they are looking to "determine the best path forward to provide a safe and inclusive experience for all team members".
Wow. Cancel culture strikes again - at least that’s what it sounds like. Most people would be amazed at some of the things that go on in a college athletic program (both good and bad). But if you aren’t part of the program it’s really none of your business.
@MidAtlanticDad posted:I guess I’m just lucky, but the young people I know who have graduated college in the past 10 years (and those who haven’t) are far and away much better people and citizens than my generation (low bar?). They’re smarter, more resourceful, more adaptable, more thoughtful, better parents, and much kinder… much much kinder.
In my personal experience I would agree. It’s probably because we’re around kids who are/were mostly disciplined athletes with goals. But in general too many college kids are coming out soft with helicopter and/or snowplow parents.
@adbono posted:Wow. Cancel culture strikes again - at least that’s what it sounds like. Most people would be amazed at some of the things that go on in a college athletic program (both good and bad). But if you aren’t part of the program it’s really none of your business.
Baylor basketball says hi!
@2022NYC posted:Hopefully it is not a relative of "IAMTHATGUY" that was the whistleblower.
We fully support hazing as long as it's in good fun.
@OskiSD posted:Baylor basketball says hi!
Some of the things that went on at Baylor under Dave Bliss (who appears to be certifiably nuts) were horrific. So they got rid of Bliss and the problem players and moved on. They didn’t cancel the program. Don’t get me wrong - I’m not a Baylor apologist. I don’t care for Baylor in the least. I’m just not in favor of folding up a program when times get tough.
@adbono posted:Wow. Cancel culture strikes again - at least that’s what it sounds like. Most people would be amazed at some of the things that go on in a college athletic program (both good and bad). But if you aren’t part of the program it’s really none of your business.
"Part of the program" would include the actual university, with its rules and policies. It is certainly their business.
@anotherparent posted:"Part of the program" would include the actual university, with its rules and policies. It is certainly their business.
I agree with that
@MidAtlanticDad posted:I guess I’m just lucky, but the young people I know who have graduated college in the past 10 years (and those who haven’t) are far and away much better people and citizens than my generation (low bar?). They’re smarter, more resourceful, more adaptable, more thoughtful, better parents, and much kinder… much much kinder.
Yeah I'd say your really lucky, or....
I work at a job where I've employed a lot of HS/college kids over the years. A lot.
So back to the "or", or you are a really pathetic human being. Because I've found 99% of those kids I've employed to be lazy, all about me, and resoundingly incompetent.
@SomeBaseballDad posted:Yeah I'd say your really lucky, or....
I work at a job where I've employed a lot of HS/college kids over the years. A lot.
So back to the "or", or you are a really pathetic human being. Because I've found 99% of those kids I've employed to be lazy, all about me, and resoundingly incompetent.
You just provided evidence MidAtlanticDad observation about Gen Z is correct. No need to call someone pathetic. It does nothing to persuade anyone and it’s not kind. A comment like that isn’t what this board is about.
@LousyLefty posted:You just provided evidence MidAtlanticDad observation about Gen Z is correct. No need to call someone pathetic. It does nothing to persuade anyone and it’s not kind. A comment like that isn’t what this board is about.
Stop being a meanie…I need a safe space now
@old_school posted:Stop being a meanie…I need a safe space now
Don't worry you are safe here!
I don't think that LL was being a meanie, just truthful.