Unhappy player

He most definitely needs a release from his current school before he can talk to any other school. The summer collegiate leagues are a great place to be seen by other schools. In addition, his summer coach and players on his team can help make connections for him for next year as well. Good luck to him.

Curious why he is unhappy ?

You have to be careful you don't jump from the frying pan into the fire.

personal reasons!

good info re contacts often happening thru summer league players or coaches

IF your resume is good enough a couple phone calls should do the trick

IF your resume isn't that good your time-line expectations may be unreasonable

good luck

Can a parent make calls to college coaches before a release is given????

Yes, but the first question from the coach will be, "Does he have the release to talk?".

Nothing can be done(openly) until the school(AD and coach) gives the player a consent to
talk to other schools. And they are allowed to restrict certain schools if they so desire.

I'd be prepared to answer the prospective coach when he asks what the "personal reasons" are...something you seem to be unwilling to do here.

Well excuse me PopTime, I just came on here with a question and I appreciate all the answers, but I do not have to share with you any reasons why he is unhappy!!!!!

quote:

The summer collegiate leagues are a great place to be seen by other schools.

I’m not disagreeing with that statement simply because I don’t know ---- so let me ask--- Wouldn’t the college coaches be too busy looking at the better high school summer teams, players, tournaments, and showcases where virtually 100% of the participants are prospective players instead of a college league where few if any are prospects ---- unless these college teams were comprised of JUCO players?
Fungo

base4,
I think Moc1 gives good advice. Buy the way, you don’t have to share on a public internet message board why your son is unhappy ---- I know I wouldn’t. That information is not a requirement to get and answer about how to go about transferring to another college. Putting information on the HSBBW message board is like having a party line with thousands listening in. That’s the reason the PM (private message) feature is used.
Fungo

base, I honestly don't care what the "personal reasons" are, I was just stating the obvious. The coach is going to want to know what the problem was.

base4,
the release is for the "player" ...
friendly "chat" by parents, uncles, friends, etc are not covered by NCAA rules

guys that formerly recruited your son will often help if you didn't burn any bridges with 'em.

IF I was gonna do it, and IF face to face contact isn't possible, I'd have someone
(parent, player etc) forward a note of interest to coaching staff with your # & that of a hs or summer coach ...
if there IS interest on their part they may feel better calling the 3rd party
(**btw ... don't pick a parent who's son will be affected by your transfer)

re personal reasons;
I know a guy who told the NEW coach that his current pitching coach was a *?#%%^@! A** ...
trans was completed, played in CWS & now in pro ball

again, good luck

Chairman

Caution must be exercised if others are out there asking questions on behalf of the player--

TR, you are correct ... there should be pretty close control over what is communicated by a third party

that said:
transfers are no big deal & happen EVERY year for a variety of reasons ...

some players getting out of a "bad" situation ..
some players are chasing a "better" situation ..
some programs/boosters/friends of pgm, even "recruit" players not previousy thinking about a transfer ..

I'll add this as well,

IMO the NCAA's transfer rules are generally good for college baseball, when they are not abused by either side

coaches who overstock at a certain position can't "lock up" a player who is burried in their depth chart for 4 yrs

programs with guys leaving regularly are likely to draw the attention of the AD & alum who will find the problem and fix it .. even if it takes a moving van to do it

some players "thought" being far from home would work out fine .. but doesn't

some players "thought" staying close to home would be fine .. but isn't



wishing base4 the best for his son, & hope everything works out

Fungo - I think you're correct on the summer leagues. The league Michael is playing in is just that - full of JUCO kids and thus will have more exposure to college coaches.


Base4 - My own JUCO son is in the process of transferring this summer to a 4 year. I strongly recommend that you contact previous coaches/scouts you/player had relationships with. Their words and opinions mean alot more than a parent calling a coach.

I am with POPTIME here-- no need to know the personal reasons but sometimes the grass aint greener on the other side of the fence -_AND you still have to mow it--and no power mower

Too many kids get what I call "Itchy Feet" ---they look to jump before the situation is fully developed--typical of the kids today--"If I dont have it here I will go somehwere else"--great attitude to carry with you into the business world (Real world)-- it gets stale very quickly-- spoonfeeding doesnt go on forever

Sorry I even asked this question. I thought I could ask and not get comments like "Itchy Feet"! No spoonfeeding here Mr. TRhit!!!

TR - I think you're right. I've seen kids over the years change their leagues or HS multiple times because they're not happy. It is usually about playing time. Not a good lesson for kids to be learning IMO.

However, I've seen college kids transfer for many and varied reasons. It's difficult to really know how a school and a baseball program fits someone until they're there. A friend of mine pointed out to me that 60% of marriages end in divorce and most people marry feeling like they've made a lifetime commitment. Things just aren't what they seemed sometimes and/or things change.

If it's not a place that a player is happy academically or athletically, may be best for all to make a change. However, I don't think the decision to change should be made lightly.

Also, if a scout or coach is going to recommend a player - they're not going to do it if they think that kid is going to embarrass them or is a problem "hopping" schools.